markjazzbassist Posted May 8, 2019 Report Share Posted May 8, 2019 1 hour ago, Finn balor said: Stubbs got decent jobs off the back of his run as under 21s unworth must be in for a shout of a job somewhere Maybe unsy wants to stay here and learn from Marco and brands in hope to be the first team man as brands promotes from within most of the time. Matt 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markjazzbassist Posted August 27, 2019 Report Share Posted August 27, 2019 They just beat a league 2 side in the EFL Trophy. Well done lads. Won on penalties Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Posted August 27, 2019 Report Share Posted August 27, 2019 Was the U21s. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markjazzbassist Posted August 28, 2019 Report Share Posted August 28, 2019 4 hours ago, Bill said: Was the U21s. It’s confusing is u23 the league and then cups are just u21? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Posted August 28, 2019 Report Share Posted August 28, 2019 No idea Mark, I also thought it was strange. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Posted August 31, 2019 Report Share Posted August 31, 2019 Good game last night. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Btay Posted August 31, 2019 Report Share Posted August 31, 2019 Promising signs in the youth. Hopefully a few can make the step up this season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sibdane Posted September 17, 2019 Report Share Posted September 17, 2019 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sibdane Posted September 17, 2019 Report Share Posted September 17, 2019 Anthony Gordon seems to have a lot of potential. Great shot earlier in the game and a perfect through ball to Simms for the winner. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markjazzbassist Posted September 17, 2019 Report Share Posted September 17, 2019 keeper was awful for the goal we let in. fell over after it went past him. it was a shot striaght at the goal and the dude wound up, had all the time in the world. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finn balor Posted September 27, 2019 Report Share Posted September 27, 2019 Anthony Gordon is a star he needs to be on the bench Simms bagged a sniffers goal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailey Posted September 28, 2019 Report Share Posted September 28, 2019 Dowell also destroyed teams at that level. Sort him out a good loan deal first and then phase Walcott out if he is good enough to replace him. Sibdane 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finn balor Posted September 28, 2019 Report Share Posted September 28, 2019 Broadhead doing well at Burton aswell. Scored against Bournemouth midweek plaidharper 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shukes Posted November 5, 2019 Report Share Posted November 5, 2019 2-2 draw with Crewe Togo through to knockout stages of EFL cup. Lost penalty’s But still go through. Niasse with both goals. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted November 5, 2019 Author Report Share Posted November 5, 2019 8 minutes ago, Shukes said: 2-2 draw with Crewe Togo through to knockout stages of EFL cup. Lost penalty’s But still go through. Niasse with both goals. Those U23s are getting older and older... Shukes 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nogs Posted November 5, 2019 Report Share Posted November 5, 2019 6 minutes ago, Romey 1878 said: Those U23s are getting older and older... Technically the U21s... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sibdane Posted November 5, 2019 Report Share Posted November 5, 2019 23 minutes ago, Romey 1878 said: Those U23s are getting older and older... I thought he was on loan?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted November 5, 2019 Author Report Share Posted November 5, 2019 1 hour ago, Sibdane said: I thought he was on loan?! We wouldn’t pay anyone to take him so we were stuck with him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shukes Posted November 6, 2019 Report Share Posted November 6, 2019 Hey he looked good.... against Crewe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted November 11, 2019 Report Share Posted November 11, 2019 their keeper was excellent Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Btay Posted July 24, 2020 Report Share Posted July 24, 2020 Think this set-up deserves some praise. Looking like another 2 players capable of regular first team football on the horizon in the way of Gordon & Branthwaite, along with DCL, Holgate, Davies & Kenny - paints a good picture for up and coming youngsters to come to this club. markjazzbassist 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted July 24, 2020 Author Report Share Posted July 24, 2020 8 hours ago, Btay said: Think this set-up deserves some praise. Looking like another 2 players capable of regular first team football on the horizon in the way of Gordon & Branthwaite, along with DCL, Holgate, Davies & Kenny - paints a good picture for up and coming youngsters to come to this club. We bought Branthwaite in January. You can't credit the U23 whatsoever for him. Matt and Btay 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shukes Posted July 24, 2020 Report Share Posted July 24, 2020 I think it does show that coming to our academy or U23 teams, has an open path to the first team though. Even though Branthwaite wasn’t trained and coached by them, he was brought primarily to start there. Young players watching can see there will be opportunities. Romey 1878, Matt and markjazzbassist 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted July 24, 2020 Author Report Share Posted July 24, 2020 1 hour ago, Shukes said: I think it does show that coming to our academy or U23 teams, has an open path to the first team though. Even though Branthwaite wasn’t trained and coached by them, he was brought primarily to start there. Young players watching can see there will be opportunities. I do agree with that but his post made it seem like the U23 setup has moulded him but they’ll not have had any influence on him. Shukes 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Btay Posted July 24, 2020 Report Share Posted July 24, 2020 13 hours ago, Romey 1878 said: We bought Branthwaite in January. You can't credit the U23 whatsoever for him. Absolute miss on my behalf there mate!! Romey 1878 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DownUnderToff Posted July 24, 2020 Report Share Posted July 24, 2020 This piece suggests (accurately IMO) the opposite, current u23s setup is holding players back for too long. https://royalbluemersey.sbnation.com/2020/7/23/21335531/are-everton-misusing-the-under-23s-team-david-unsworth-youngsters-broadhead-baningime-youth Think we need to be a lot better about getting more of our young talent the opportunities to step up. Otherwise it's too small a player pipeline to rely just on the few who, largely through lucky opportunity, can breakthrough directly from our youth games. Branthwaite is a perfect example; if not for already having a shortage in the position and forced by injuries, it might have been years before we saw him in a "competitive" fixture. We've had 4 loan moves across our current u23 squad, 2 of those for players now aged 22. Set more of them the challenge, younger. Might take them a couple of loans as well. Definitely want to see Simms loaned out next year, along with a handful of others (if keeping them). Some of the u18s could/should be looked at soon as well (Onyango in particular). Although getting more of the u23s out quicker would naturally push up u18 players to fill the void. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted July 25, 2020 Author Report Share Posted July 25, 2020 9 hours ago, DownUnderToff said: This piece suggests (accurately IMO) the opposite, current u23s setup is holding players back for too long. https://royalbluemersey.sbnation.com/2020/7/23/21335531/are-everton-misusing-the-under-23s-team-david-unsworth-youngsters-broadhead-baningime-youth Think we need to be a lot better about getting more of our young talent the opportunities to step up. Otherwise it's too small a player pipeline to rely just on the few who, largely through lucky opportunity, can breakthrough directly from our youth games. Branthwaite is a perfect example; if not for already having a shortage in the position and forced by injuries, it might have been years before we saw him in a "competitive" fixture. We've had 4 loan moves across our current u23 squad, 2 of those for players now aged 22. Set more of them the challenge, younger. Might take them a couple of loans as well. Definitely want to see Simms loaned out next year, along with a handful of others (if keeping them). Some of the u18s could/should be looked at soon as well (Onyango in particular). Although getting more of the u23s out quicker would naturally push up u18 players to fill the void. I've said it before, but we also need to be better at letting them go and making money off them. We hold on to some of these kids for far too long when they're never going to play for us and we end up either only getting buttons for them or nothing at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted August 14, 2020 Author Report Share Posted August 14, 2020 https://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/everton-marcel-brands-david-unsworth-18765262 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markjazzbassist Posted August 14, 2020 Report Share Posted August 14, 2020 interesting. i was wondering why we couldn't get far in that but it makes sense. makes sense to drop out until their get the schedule right too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted September 22, 2020 Author Report Share Posted September 22, 2020 https://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/everton-name-five-players-expect-18974111 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted September 29, 2020 Author Report Share Posted September 29, 2020 https://www.evertonfc.com/news/1847004/ebbrell-young-blues-showed-real-appetite-in-derby-win Good to see Simms continuing to score goals after stepping up to the U23s. markjazzbassist 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted May 12, 2021 Author Report Share Posted May 12, 2021 https://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/francis-jeffers-everton-leave-20574794 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted May 12, 2021 Author Report Share Posted May 12, 2021 6 hours ago, Romey 1878 said: https://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/francis-jeffers-everton-leave-20574794 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted May 12, 2021 Report Share Posted May 12, 2021 8 minutes ago, Romey 1878 said: I've got that coat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted May 12, 2021 Author Report Share Posted May 12, 2021 31 minutes ago, MikeO said: I've got that coat. But have you got those ears? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted May 12, 2021 Report Share Posted May 12, 2021 1 minute ago, Romey 1878 said: But have you got those ears? A man can only dream of having ears that big! Reminds me of a great one-liner from a mate in the pub one evening many moons ago. One of my mates had (still has) a bit of a huge nose and one of the guys looked at him and said, "Sam, if only you could breathe through your ears you'd be the perfect lover." Matt, StevO and Romey 1878 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted July 18, 2021 Author Report Share Posted July 18, 2021 https://www.evertonfc.com/news/2191959/unsworth-salutes-in-form-dobbin-after-second-successive-hat-trick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted July 22, 2021 Author Report Share Posted July 22, 2021 https://www.evertonfc.com/news/2194813/scintillating-everton-under-23s-hit-six-in-pre-season-victory Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted August 6, 2021 Author Report Share Posted August 6, 2021 12 minutes ago, patto said: I've just watched some highlights of the under 23s I think we have the best squad for a long time the future is bright hopefully. Brands' influence finally being seen it looks like. It was always going to take time to do this, which is why I don't understand that criticism of him. Matt and StevO 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted August 6, 2021 Author Report Share Posted August 6, 2021 35 minutes ago, patto said: Probably because he made a couple of bad signings Delph and Iwobi but nowhere as bad as Walsh. They’re nothing to do with our age group sides. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted August 6, 2021 Author Report Share Posted August 6, 2021 1 hour ago, patto said: No but he did sign them and that’s why people criticise him. some people don’t see what’s happening below the 1st team. I think it was quite clear I was saying I don't know why he's been criticised about the youth set up. That sort of thing takes time to change and now it looks like the changes he made are coming to fruition. Yet he was being criticised about our lack of youth coming through more or less straight away - it was idiotic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shukes Posted August 6, 2021 Report Share Posted August 6, 2021 This is where i see Brands. He is the man to sort out our long term ambitions. He isn't a firefighter. The youth team have a few young lads that I am confident will make a difference. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shukes Posted August 6, 2021 Report Share Posted August 6, 2021 We seem to have more technical players this time round. I remember the days of Hallam Hope, scoring for fun at this level, due to his speed mainly. But when it came to progressing, those lads struggled. This bunch seem to have a lot more between the ears. Sibdane and patto 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevO Posted August 6, 2021 Report Share Posted August 6, 2021 We won back to back leagues and still didn’t get any in the first team. Hope some of these make it, won’t be holding my breath. MikeO and Romey 1878 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cornish Steve Posted August 6, 2021 Report Share Posted August 6, 2021 I'm not sure I agree with farming top U-23 players out on loan. For some, it will be beneficial; they need regular playing time. The lower leagues, though, are much more physical and very different from elite level. For some, why not introduce them as subs in the Prem a little more? Do we have any players right now that might shine if given such an opportunity? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sibdane Posted August 6, 2021 Report Share Posted August 6, 2021 23 minutes ago, Cornish Steve said: I'm not sure I agree with farming top U-23 players out on loan. For some, it will be beneficial; they need regular playing time. The lower leagues, though, are much more physical and very different from elite level. For some, why not introduce them as subs in the Prem a little more? Do we have any players right now that might shine if given such an opportunity? It’s a results-based business where most clubs look at the short term. Fixture results are usually pretty close in the PL, so you’re not going to find a lot of managers willing to take a risk on youngsters. Results first, development second. Not saying I agree mind. StevO and Cornish Steve 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailey Posted August 6, 2021 Report Share Posted August 6, 2021 2 hours ago, Cornish Steve said: I'm not sure I agree with farming top U-23 players out on loan. For some, it will be beneficial; they need regular playing time. The lower leagues, though, are much more physical and very different from elite level. For some, why not introduce them as subs in the Prem a little more? Do we have any players right now that might shine if given such an opportunity? That implies that the PL isn't that physical and whilst it might not be as rough as the lower leagues, it is still the most physical top flight league in Europe and there are countless times when players from other leagues havent been able to hack it because of that physicality. Sub appearances are all well and good when you win plenty of games with a comfortable score line. Like @Sidbane says, you arent going to bring on a kid when the game is on the line. In an ideal world you want the lad to go on loan for a season or a half season, play regular first team football and then bring them back in and see how they do. For some the penny drops quickly and for others it will take them a few years too long and that is what we have seen with the likes of Lundstram, Wood and Duffy. The same will probably even apply to Davies and Holgate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted August 7, 2021 Author Report Share Posted August 7, 2021 2 minutes ago, patto said: Jon Joe Kenny was captain of the double winners. A case in point of the lack of quality in those sides then. StevO 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevO Posted August 7, 2021 Report Share Posted August 7, 2021 4 minutes ago, patto said: Jon Joe Kenny was captain of the double winners. Thanks for clarifying my point. He also isn’t good enough for our first team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevO Posted August 7, 2021 Report Share Posted August 7, 2021 Just now, patto said: Well you could quote hundreds of players then. Yeah, we can. Hardly any of them make it, it’s just the norm. It’s great winning things at a lower level, but it’s hardly any judgement on if they are good enough for the first team. Palfy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shukes Posted August 7, 2021 Report Share Posted August 7, 2021 Millions of footballers never get to professional level. It would be great to get a few of these into our first team….. but creating professional careers for the majority of these players should always be our aim. We should be proud of what our youth set up achieves, but we should also be looking to improve even more and turn a few of these into Everton players. StevO and Bailey 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted August 8, 2021 Author Report Share Posted August 8, 2021 https://www.evertonfc.com/news/2209930/everton-under-23s-maintain-perfect-pre-season-record Whitaker seems like one to keep an eye on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailey Posted August 17, 2021 Report Share Posted August 17, 2021 Our number 4 is either out of his depth or had a really bad game. Wasn't impressed with what I saw in that clip from 3 or 5 either. Great equalising strike though, smashed in! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted September 15, 2021 Author Report Share Posted September 15, 2021 https://www.evertonfc.com/news/2255212/superb-mcallister-strike-earns-everton-fine-morecambe-win Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted November 7, 2021 Author Report Share Posted November 7, 2021 https://www.evertonfc.com/news/2341035/under-23s-fight-back-to-beat-city Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted January 24, 2022 Report Share Posted January 24, 2022 Great goal from Dobbin against Spurs tonight, and a great assist (and flick in the buid-up) from Nathan Patterson. Btay and Romey 1878 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Btay Posted January 24, 2022 Report Share Posted January 24, 2022 18 minutes ago, MikeO said: Great goal from Dobbin against Spurs tonight, and a great assist (and flick in the buid-up) from Nathan Patterson. Hope he gets a start in the next cup game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted January 24, 2022 Author Report Share Posted January 24, 2022 19 minutes ago, MikeO said: Great goal from Dobbin against Spurs tonight, and a great assist (and flick in the buid-up) from Nathan Patterson. He (Dobbin) should be on the bench ahead of Rondon all day long. And Patterson is the future so will hopefully get in ahead of Kenny after his abysmal showing against Villa. I’ve been all for giving Kenny a chance to prove himself and he’s had that now and proven that he’s not good enough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Btay Posted January 24, 2022 Report Share Posted January 24, 2022 7 minutes ago, Romey 1878 said: He (Dobbin) should be on the bench ahead of Rondon all day long. And Patterson is the future so will hopefully get in ahead of Kenny after his abysmal showing against Villa. I’ve been all for giving Kenny a chance to prove himself and he’s had that now and proven that he’s not good enough. I’m just watching the 23’s game against spurs to see how Patterson goes. So far branthwiate has been shaky. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted January 24, 2022 Author Report Share Posted January 24, 2022 5 minutes ago, Btay said: I’m just watching the 23’s game against spurs to see how Patterson goes. So far branthwiate has been shaky. I like Branthwaite a lot but it’s going to be a while until he displaces your favourite. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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