chicagoblue Posted December 5, 2016 Report Share Posted December 5, 2016 So, lessons learned then: We need a new 'keeper. Holgate must start. Either rb if Coleman is injured or cb with Williams. Valencia has something to offer and maybe we should consider 4-4-2 with him and Rom up front. Delefeau is great as an impact sub but needs to do it for 90 mins if he starts. Mirallas has skill and pace to burn but he has to get his head right to be consistent. Whatever Gana is being paid, we need to double it. Steve Walsh is going to be a busy man in January. We need a big clear out and must splash the cash. Problem with Gerry is that he's apparently congenitally unfit. He just can't run long enough to be a serious footballer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted December 5, 2016 Report Share Posted December 5, 2016 Ibrahimovic is a Grade a twat. He was muscled off the ball by little seamus and had to exact revenge like some shit house bully. Somehow it's seen as ok and a niggle? He heeled a lad in the temple- far from a niggle. Fuckin stupid. A kid sees that and replicates it but with adrenaline and you are looking at a head injury. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marcopaulo Posted December 5, 2016 Report Share Posted December 5, 2016 That rojo tackle...what a shithouse..fair play to coleman for stepping up to him..no wonder there's calls for the lad to be the next captain Wish seamus was waiting in the car park with a tire iron for the pair of cunts OH and we were shite again Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnh Posted December 5, 2016 Report Share Posted December 5, 2016 I still can't believe he started with Cleverley. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dlblue Posted December 5, 2016 Report Share Posted December 5, 2016 I agree with Haf, i think Valencia changed the game yesterday. Work rate and desire was great, Lukaku always seems to work better next to another striker. Mirallas played better when Valencia came on too. Geri seemed to look leaner yesterday, looked thinner in his face. Maybe Koeman has flagged up his fitness issues? Clevs was terrible, Iv always thought he does a job but yesterday nothing went right for him at all. The last 20 mins im hoping is the way Koeman wants us to play and once we have the players to fit his style then hopefully we will be fine. Idrissa Gueye was the standout as usual, a Mid of Schneiderlin, Gueye and Sigurdsson would be great. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted December 5, 2016 Report Share Posted December 5, 2016 I agree with Haf, i think Valencia changed the game yesterday. Work rate and desire was great, Lukaku always seems to work better next to another striker. Mirallas played better when Valencia came on too. Geri seemed to look leaner yesterday, looked thinner in his face. Maybe Koeman has flagged up his fitness issues? Clevs was terrible, Iv always thought he does a job but yesterday nothing went right for him at all. The last 20 mins im hoping is the way Koeman wants us to play and once we have the players to fit his style then hopefully we will be fine. Idrissa Gueye was the standout as usual, a Mid of Schneiderlin, Gueye and Sigurdsson would be great. Sometimes it's impossible to get people to see that a supposedly shite player actually makes a difference. I've said this before about Cleverley but it seems now that his favourite manager roberto has gone he's got no interest. Movement is infectious. Valencia shuffled it about and Lukaku had to move. We looked totally different. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MC11 Posted December 5, 2016 Report Share Posted December 5, 2016 I agree with Haf, i think Valencia changed the game yesterday. Work rate and desire was great, Lukaku always seems to work better next to another striker. Mirallas played better when Valencia came on too. Geri seemed to look leaner yesterday, looked thinner in his face. Maybe Koeman has flagged up his fitness issues? Clevs was terrible, Iv always thought he does a job but yesterday nothing went right for him at all. The last 20 mins im hoping is the way Koeman wants us to play and once we have the players to fit his style then hopefully we will be fine. Idrissa Gueye was the standout as usual, a Mid of Schneiderlin, Gueye and Sigurdsson would be great. Injuries forced the changes. I wonder who he would have brought off if Bolaie & Coleman didn't get injured. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dlblue Posted December 5, 2016 Report Share Posted December 5, 2016 Injuries forced the changes. I wonder who he would have brought off if Bolaie & Coleman didn't get injured. Hopefully still Bolasie. He was terrible again yesterday, Im not sure who controls his legs but it isnt him. Romey 1878 and Matt 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shukes Posted December 5, 2016 Report Share Posted December 5, 2016 Injuries forced the changes. I wonder who he would have brought off if Bolaie & Coleman didn't get injured. Was thinking the same, it wasn't as if it was great decisions by the manager. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailey Posted December 5, 2016 Report Share Posted December 5, 2016 Ibrahimovic is a Grade a twat. He was muscled off the ball by little seamus and had to exact revenge like some shit house bully. Somehow it's seen as ok and a niggle? He heeled a lad in the temple- far from a niggle. Fuckin stupid. A kid sees that and replicates it but with adrenaline and you are looking at a head injury. It looks far worse in slow mo than it really is. He clearly knows what he is doing but it's one of them that you take note of and then get him back later in the game. Either you or a team mate. Happens all the time in my 5 a side league, happened all the time when I played rugby too. At the end of the game you shake hands and have a pint together. Yes it's bullying if you want to be soft like that but that's why he is one of the best players in the league. Same with Costa, albeit he is actually a nasty player. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnh Posted December 6, 2016 Report Share Posted December 6, 2016 Ibrahimovic, FA decide 'no action'. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted December 6, 2016 Report Share Posted December 6, 2016 Ibrahimovic, FA decide 'no action'. Not surprised at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted December 6, 2016 Report Share Posted December 6, 2016 Ibrahimovic, FA decide 'no action'. He was very clever wasn't he. Hope someone breaks his nose. None the less I was very impressed with him. Very good player. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shukes Posted December 6, 2016 Report Share Posted December 6, 2016 I prefer men to act like men and test their ego rather than snide digs. Don't mind strong tackles, tough shoulders or the odd push, but no need for snide kicks. Matt 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nyblue23 Posted December 7, 2016 Report Share Posted December 7, 2016 I still can't believe he started with Cleverley.Me either. Cleverley offers this team absolutely nothing as a winger. Anywhere really, but on the flank he's as good as a lost DCM. He needs to be offloaded badly. Romey 1878 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shy_Talk Posted December 7, 2016 Report Share Posted December 7, 2016 That united side is a shambles and we made them look competent. Obvious (oblivious?) red card aside, it was a trudge of a match, Stek has been training having watched recordings of Robles (EL displays) and where was our player to volley one of theirs into the stands? owhere cos that player doesnt exist. Too limp wristed and wet-lettuce like when the opposition turn the match into a fight. Gutless. Positives..... another 90 minutes match fitness for Baines, and he exorcised that (pen) miss at mould trafford, got a point, another week closer to the January sales, the naysayers will have to find a new player to focus their ire upon now Bolassie is out long term.....somehow Koeman was satisfied. Watford away on saturday early, Z-cars to run out too, wonder if the display will mirror those where z-cars is played in L4. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TOFFEEliscious Posted December 7, 2016 Report Share Posted December 7, 2016 Me either. Cleverley offers this team absolutely nothing as a winger. Anywhere really, but on the flank he's as good as a lost DCM. He needs to be offloaded badly. agreed, he offers absolutely nothing at this stage of his career and I honestly don't think he should wear the shirt again. Send him out in January. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnh Posted December 7, 2016 Report Share Posted December 7, 2016 If he went to Rotherham he would be on the bench regularly. I still can't believe he ever got picked for England. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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