Romey 1878 Posted August 27, 2021 Report Share Posted August 27, 2021 No one can get too angry about this - we used his ambition to take him from another club ourselves so we knew exactly the type of person he was. One that will always look for the best thing to further himself, and that's not a bad thing even though we've ended up on the shitty end of it. Matt, Hafnia, pete0 and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Btay Posted August 27, 2021 Report Share Posted August 27, 2021 12 hours ago, Matt said: There's no chance of a sell on or buy back. He's no longer our player, there's nothing to be negotiated. I think we could have negotiated something like that pre tribunal but now I believe it will be a flat fee. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted August 28, 2021 Report Share Posted August 28, 2021 10 hours ago, Btay said: I think we could have negotiated something like that pre tribunal but now I believe it will be a flat fee. He wasn't under contract, so we couldn't. All the tribunal is doing is hopefully getting us a better flat fee. Nothing more than that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Btay Posted August 28, 2021 Report Share Posted August 28, 2021 3 minutes ago, Matt said: He wasn't under contract, so we couldn't. All the tribunal is doing is hopefully getting us a better flat fee. Nothing more than that. Yeah right. I more meant when he was under contract we could have, even if it was a youth/academy one? Once his contract was expired I understand we have nothing but agreed fee or tribunal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted August 28, 2021 Report Share Posted August 28, 2021 8 minutes ago, Btay said: Yeah right. I more meant when he was under contract we could have, even if it was a youth/academy one? Once his contract was expired I understand we have nothing but agreed fee or tribunal. Still not mate. The sell on/buy back stuff is negotiated in a sale, not contract negotiations (which makes sense since when the contract has expired, any clauses would too) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted August 28, 2021 Report Share Posted August 28, 2021 He still had two years left on his scholarship terms, I believe, so I'm not sure if we could have negotiated a sell-on percentage until he tore that up. I have no idea how that works tbh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted August 28, 2021 Report Share Posted August 28, 2021 1 minute ago, Romey 1878 said: He still had two years left on his scholarship terms, I believe, so I'm not sure if we could have negotiated a sell-on percentage until he tore that up. I have no idea how that works tbh. Point still stands though mate, if he's renaged on an agreement and is free to move, any conditions in that paperwork are dead. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palfy Posted August 28, 2021 Report Share Posted August 28, 2021 7 minutes ago, Romey 1878 said: He still had two years left on his scholarship terms, I believe, so I'm not sure if we could have negotiated a sell-on percentage until he tore that up. I have no idea how that works tbh. I think the club make a legal commitment to him in the form of a scholarship, but because of his age he can’t make a legally binding commitment to the club, which allowed him to leave when and how he wanted, so we couldn’t sell him because there was no contract that gave us rights over him. We have invested a lot of time and money in him so I’m wondering if the tribunal is setting a few for compensation which has to be paid for by any club he went to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted August 28, 2021 Report Share Posted August 28, 2021 26 minutes ago, Matt said: Point still stands though mate, if he's renaged on an agreement and is free to move, any conditions in that paperwork are dead. By the sounds of it he was on scholarship terms right up until just before he signed for Southampton, he just wouldn't sign the pro contract we'd offered him. So he was still under those terms while Southampton were negotiating a deal with us (which ultimately we rejected), and I'm sure we'd have been asking for a sell-on clause in any deal we put back to them. So, I think we could have had a sell-on clause if we'd agreed a deal with Southampton but I don't know that for sure. 8 minutes ago, Palfy said: We have invested a lot of time and money in him so I’m wondering if the tribunal is setting a few for compensation which has to be paid for by any club he went to. That's exactly what the tribunal does. Palfy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted September 21, 2021 Report Share Posted September 21, 2021 https://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/thierry-small-everton-exit-21617613 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted October 8, 2021 Report Share Posted October 8, 2021 https://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/everton-southampton-thierry-small-transfer-21792529 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted October 8, 2021 Report Share Posted October 8, 2021 4 minutes ago, Romey 1878 said: https://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/everton-southampton-thierry-small-transfer-21792529 I'm expecting £7m.... Reason being we gave him a debut. I am hoping we get a large percentage sell on fee/first option too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted July 26, 2022 Report Share Posted July 26, 2022 How's the move working out for you, lad? Matt and MikeO 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Btay Posted July 27, 2022 Report Share Posted July 27, 2022 10 hours ago, Romey 1878 said: How's the move working out for you, lad? Lampard would have definitely given him minutes as well. Hindsight is a wonderful thing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
patto Posted July 27, 2022 Report Share Posted July 27, 2022 4 hours ago, Btay said: Lampard would have definitely given him minutes as well. Hindsight is a wonderful thing Too big for his own boots the ironic thing is when he left he would have got game time here. A good signing for Vale I think. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted January 31, 2023 Report Share Posted January 31, 2023 He's gone on loan to St Mirren now. dunlopp9987 and Matt 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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MikeO Posted February 3 Report Share Posted February 3 2 hours ago, duncanmckenzieismagic said: Signed for Charlton. https://www.charltonafc.com/news/thierry-small-joins-charlton Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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