Quinn31

I fucking hate them and I hope us, Forest, Leicester (and whoever they decide to target next while they avoid the big fish of City and Chelsea) bring the whole thing tumbling down.

like an oracle. The deduction is exactly between 1 and 3 points. 
 
I'm less fussed about 2 points being deducted this go around than I am the process in general. It's just been one giant circus.

like an oracle. The deduction is exactly between 1 and 3 points. 
 
I'm less fussed about 2 points being deducted this go around than I am the process in general. It's just been one giant circus.

The insurance policy is that if we get a deduction then Forest should too, which (all being equal) will keep them behind us along with Sheff U and Burnley, and probably Luton.

Just criminal to let them put all the pressure on us with a man advantage

Just criminal to let them put all the pressure on us with a man advantage

Just criminal to let them put all the pressure on us with a man advantage

Were so bad with the ball we can't even maintain possession for two minutes when we have an extra man.  Gave them chance after chance and finally paid for it. 

Many missed chances.  Tarkowski, Garner, Doucouré, DCL twice.

Playing like this getting our points back wouldn’t help.

He was only on the line because he can't move.

Young and McNeil off for Joao Virginia and Andy Lonergan.

I agree there is an agenda, but I don't hold with any conspiracy theories that they don’t like us so that’s why we are where we are. 
I think there agenda is too try and prove that they are in control of their own house and don’t require intervention from the government, so in doing so they have gone over board with the points deduction, even though they will say the points deduction was handed out by an independent commission, they did advise that commission to deduct 6 points for the crime and 1 point for every 5 million over, so low and behold we get a 10 point deduction, even though the so called independent commission said they ignored that advice from the PL, really? 

...and for years, our biggest moan was that they didn't give a shit. This is the biggest turnaround for me 👏👏👏

RIP and a big thank you to Bill for his thoughtful contributions and being a staple of ToffeeTalk. I'm sorry for the loss, though if he is indeed 96 year old Billy Ingham, no doubt a long life fully lived. My condolences, Patto.
 
As a general note, this is an opportunity to thank all of you for contributing to this community - as someone who came to this forum as a new football fan and new Evertonian, I have learned so much from being a member here and thank all of you for increasing my knowledge, football, Everton, and many things else and I preemptively forgive all of you for the brain damage you've caused me on Brexit and Romelu Lukaku.

As Bill was always active in the competition threads, and actually set up and managed a fair few of them himself, we decided to rename that section of the forum in his memory. Sure people will approve...and thanks to @Zoo 2.0for the suggestion.

RIP and a big thank you to Bill for his thoughtful contributions and being a staple of ToffeeTalk. I'm sorry for the loss, though if he is indeed 96 year old Billy Ingham, no doubt a long life fully lived. My condolences, Patto.
 
As a general note, this is an opportunity to thank all of you for contributing to this community - as someone who came to this forum as a new football fan and new Evertonian, I have learned so much from being a member here and thank all of you for increasing my knowledge, football, Everton, and many things else and I preemptively forgive all of you for the brain damage you've caused me on Brexit and Romelu Lukaku.

It’s funny really, when the Sly 6 wanted to belittle the Premier League which club was it that was loudest in defending the Premier League? That’s right, it was Everton Football Club.
Now they seem hellbent on trying to destroy us. Cunts. 

RIP and a big thank you to Bill for his thoughtful contributions and being a staple of ToffeeTalk. I'm sorry for the loss, though if he is indeed 96 year old Billy Ingham, no doubt a long life fully lived. My condolences, Patto.
 
As a general note, this is an opportunity to thank all of you for contributing to this community - as someone who came to this forum as a new football fan and new Evertonian, I have learned so much from being a member here and thank all of you for increasing my knowledge, football, Everton, and many things else and I preemptively forgive all of you for the brain damage you've caused me on Brexit and Romelu Lukaku.

If we take another points deduction this season, and then they change the rules in the summer and it doesn’t happen to another club, it’s going to be very tough to continue to be a supporter. 
All the talk of this tonight has got me thinking do I just ride it out until we’ve had our first season in Bramley-Moore, just so I’ve finished at Goodison and done the move with my Dad. It’s exhausting and it’s cruel.
Our fans have complained for years and even decades about how badly run this club is, no sustainability rules stepping in the sort the club out and actually help the club be sustainable. But now they hand out punishments while City refuse to talk to them. Then they might just change the rules, probably to settle it with City so they don’t get embarrassed by their expensive lawyers. 
It’s out of hand, out of order and out of control. The Premier League have no idea what they are doing and clearly are making it up as they go. This isn’t the game we’ve been watching all of our lives. This is something else and frankly it’s fucking shambles. 

RIP and a big thank you to Bill for his thoughtful contributions and being a staple of ToffeeTalk. I'm sorry for the loss, though if he is indeed 96 year old Billy Ingham, no doubt a long life fully lived. My condolences, Patto.
 
As a general note, this is an opportunity to thank all of you for contributing to this community - as someone who came to this forum as a new football fan and new Evertonian, I have learned so much from being a member here and thank all of you for increasing my knowledge, football, Everton, and many things else and I preemptively forgive all of you for the brain damage you've caused me on Brexit and Romelu Lukaku.

I just don't get how we can be punished twice for the same bad spending spree when we've been on the right track for almost three years now... So the PL's solution towards making clubs sustainable is to threaten them with relegation to the Championship and to put them in even more perilous financial positions without PL revenue?
Could've seen this coming a mile away with Forest. I believe Leicester and Wolves were also pushing the limits.

RIP and a big thank you to Bill for his thoughtful contributions and being a staple of ToffeeTalk. I'm sorry for the loss, though if he is indeed 96 year old Billy Ingham, no doubt a long life fully lived. My condolences, Patto.
 
As a general note, this is an opportunity to thank all of you for contributing to this community - as someone who came to this forum as a new football fan and new Evertonian, I have learned so much from being a member here and thank all of you for increasing my knowledge, football, Everton, and many things else and I preemptively forgive all of you for the brain damage you've caused me on Brexit and Romelu Lukaku.

I think it's made fans from a few clubs actually detest much about the game but love our clubs more. Sad state of affairs. 
 
the government need to step in. It's a shambles 

RIP and a big thank you to Bill for his thoughtful contributions and being a staple of ToffeeTalk. I'm sorry for the loss, though if he is indeed 96 year old Billy Ingham, no doubt a long life fully lived. My condolences, Patto.
 
As a general note, this is an opportunity to thank all of you for contributing to this community - as someone who came to this forum as a new football fan and new Evertonian, I have learned so much from being a member here and thank all of you for increasing my knowledge, football, Everton, and many things else and I preemptively forgive all of you for the brain damage you've caused me on Brexit and Romelu Lukaku.