mcirony Posted August 31, 2012 Report Share Posted August 31, 2012 Ha ha! Great pic. Stoke have signed some shadows too, shadows of their former selves that is Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lenny08 Posted August 31, 2012 Report Share Posted August 31, 2012 Somehow don't think this deal will come off Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam Posted August 31, 2012 Report Share Posted August 31, 2012 Joined stoke Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lenny08 Posted August 31, 2012 Report Share Posted August 31, 2012 THOUGHT SO! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dalziel Kane Posted August 31, 2012 Report Share Posted August 31, 2012 I've got no idea what is going on here, apart from it seems we have missed out on a player I know nothing about and have never heard of. I think that's the way it will stay, seeing as we didn't get to sign this player. could have been as good as Van Basten, but seems irrelvant now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnsy Posted August 31, 2012 Report Share Posted August 31, 2012 ^^ What is the point of this post??! Bailey and Romey 1878 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duncanmckenzieismagic Posted October 2, 2016 Report Share Posted October 2, 2016 http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/everton-steven-nzonzi-sevilla-8958348 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted October 2, 2016 Report Share Posted October 2, 2016 FFS.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
c1982 Posted October 2, 2016 Report Share Posted October 2, 2016 FFS.... Good player and the kind of player we need in our midfield. Barry can't play every game at his age and we'll miss Gueye's energy massively during the AFCON. It's clear we need fitter and stronger players if we're going to succeed under Koeman - N'Zonzi fits this profile. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Posted October 2, 2016 Report Share Posted October 2, 2016 I'm surprised how many People forget we have a player called Besic. Once he's fit I would have him in ahead of McCarthy, Cleverly, or Barkley at the moment, and he is a perfect replacement for when Barry finishes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markjazzbassist Posted October 2, 2016 Report Share Posted October 2, 2016 Yes please has been fantastic for Sevilla. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted October 2, 2016 Report Share Posted October 2, 2016 He has been good for Sevilla by all accounts, but he has failed at least twice in our league. He is not good enough to improve us in my opinion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EFC-Paul Posted October 2, 2016 Report Share Posted October 2, 2016 (edited) He has been good for Sevilla by all accounts, but he has failed at least twice in our league. He is not good enough to improve us in my opinion. I wouldn't say he's failed Matt far from it I'd say he was one of Stokes better players whilst there I remember reading on a Stoke forum that many put their turn in fortunes down to his departure whether that's true or not I couldn't say but he's certainly been at good player whilst over here for both Blackburn and Stoke Edited October 2, 2016 by EFC-Paul Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aidan Posted October 2, 2016 Report Share Posted October 2, 2016 I'm surprised how many People forget we have a player called Besic. Once he's fit I would have him in ahead of McCarthy, Cleverly, or Barkley at the moment, and he is a perfect replacement for when Barry finishes. I honestly dont think hes ever going to be fully fit. His record states 35 pl games in 2 full seasons, god knows how many of those are off the bench. Shame,hes one of my favorite playerx in blue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted October 2, 2016 Report Share Posted October 2, 2016 I wouldn't say he's failed Matt far from it I'd say he was one of Stokes better players whilst therestill not saying much. Granted, I've not watched him since left so I shouldn't be so dismissive, but I did see him at Stoke and Blackburn and was far from impressed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
c1982 Posted October 2, 2016 Report Share Posted October 2, 2016 still not saying much. Granted, I've not watched him since left so I shouldn't be so dismissive, but I did see him at Stoke and Blackburn and was far from impressed He was a key player at both clubs. I follow Stoke closely with 2 of my closest friends being season ticket holders - they rate him very highly as do I. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted October 2, 2016 Report Share Posted October 2, 2016 He was a key player at both clubs. I follow Stoke closely with 2 of my closest friends being season ticket holders - they rate him very highly as do I.he was a key player in poor squads though. We'll see what happens though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
c1982 Posted October 2, 2016 Report Share Posted October 2, 2016 he was a key player in poor squads though. We'll see what happens though It's another Gueye type situation - very good player in an average/poor side so won't necessarily get the credit they deserve. Though he's shown his quality as a key player in a very successful Sevilla team. All speculation anyway so as you say we'll see. On Besic... I'd love him to succeed here and, on paper, he should be perfect to fill Barry's boots but in reality he's done very little to show he's got the quality to do so and his injury record is becoming a little worrying. I would like to see a fully fit Besic given a chance along Gana to take some of the workload off Barry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted October 2, 2016 Report Share Posted October 2, 2016 I knew Gueye would be the comparison, but I hadn't paid any attention to Gana. Maybe he's matured massively since he left the league Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted October 2, 2016 Report Share Posted October 2, 2016 (edited) Was never on my radar. Doesn't mean he's poor. One of those players who can skip the attention of the world whilst doing a great job for the team. We've had them over the years. Carsley, pienaar, arreta etc Edited October 2, 2016 by Hafnia Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sibdane Posted October 3, 2016 Report Share Posted October 3, 2016 I've always rated N'Zonzi -- good age to contribute long term and has Premier League experience -- definitely one of Stoke's better players during his time there. 20mil seems a bit steep, but I can't tell what a good price is anymore after securing Gana and then seeing other players go for exorbitant fees. markjazzbassist 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted October 3, 2016 Report Share Posted October 3, 2016 Was never on my radar. Doesn't mean he's poor. One of those players who can skip the attention of the world whilst doing a great job for the team. We've had them over the years. Carsley, pienaar, arreta etc if he could recreate the after Carsley made, I'd be extatic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markjazzbassist Posted October 3, 2016 Report Share Posted October 3, 2016 I've always rated N'Zonzi -- good age to contribute long term and has Premier League experience -- definitely one of Stoke's better players during his time there. 20mil seems a bit steep, but I can't tell what a good price is anymore after securing Gana and then seeing other players go for exorbitant fees. i agree, he's been great for Sevilla, was good for Stoke. he was stoke's player of the year in 2014-2015. Monchi is one of the best in the biz at evaluating talent which says a lot about him at sevilla. 27 and in the prime of his career, 20m is fair in this market. would be great as the barry replacement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finn balor Posted October 3, 2016 Report Share Posted October 3, 2016 I rate him, Good defensive midfielder I'd like him or shneirderlin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Posted October 3, 2016 Report Share Posted October 3, 2016 He's never been given a chance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palfy Posted October 3, 2016 Report Share Posted October 3, 2016 I agree he hasn't really had much of an opportunity but if could keep injury free and get a run in the team he'd do a good job for us but where would you play him and who would you drop Bill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeQuince Posted October 3, 2016 Report Share Posted October 3, 2016 He's never been given a chance. Besic has been given chances. He's never come in and shown that he's a better all-around player than Barry or even McCarthy (though, I'll admit, that one is up for debate). He's not close to Gana in terms of composure, though he is a talented player. Anyhow, he's always injured. He's not become smarter, stronger, more skilled, more reliable, a better passer, nothing, since he's been here. He's shown glimpses of promise, but he's never really done anything of note, as far as I can remember. Why should we remember Besic when he hasn't shown how he will be the future, let alone that he even could be the future? The club can't wait for him to get healthy, stay healthy, and come into his own as a player. Matt 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Posted October 4, 2016 Report Share Posted October 4, 2016 (edited) I hear what some people are saying but I'm not sure he plays in the right position when he does play, I know he's very versatile and he always looks better when he's played further up. Think he could easily play further forward in Barkley's 10 position. What you will get is mobility for the high pressing game, he can pick out a forward pass, and can put in a good tackle, none of which are there at the moment. Can't wait for him to be fit cos I see him as a Koeman type of player and I'm sure if given the chance he will not disappoint. Edited October 4, 2016 by Bill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Btay Posted October 5, 2016 Report Share Posted October 5, 2016 If Besic is to develop I think Koemans a good manager and role model for him. I'd love for him to come good but like said how long do we wait. Matt and Sibdane 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted October 5, 2016 Report Share Posted October 5, 2016 Unfortunately Besic seems to be made of glass - pity as he embodies everything I like in an Everton midfielder. Sibdane 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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