StevO Posted July 13, 2016 Report Share Posted July 13, 2016 I get the point. But the only players who won't be coming here for the money are players who are good enough to play for an 11th placed club. If we want players good enough to be in the top four we need to dangle a carrot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shukes Posted July 13, 2016 Report Share Posted July 13, 2016 So he's holding out for more money? Or is it that he doesn't like the package being offered and wants to talk to is? If it was just money....then he hasn't even spoke to Napoli as there is no competition. He could be weighing up his options and deciding which club offers the best prospects? But then again he only comes back of holiday today haha. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted July 13, 2016 Report Share Posted July 13, 2016 Unfortunately that's the way football is Matt. If you had two job offers you're more than likely to take the one that offers you most money. But like Pad said, if he's looking for CL football, then fair enough, but then don't come to a club just to get more money. Just doesn't feel right. I agree with all the logic you guys are saying, I just don't like it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Makis Posted July 13, 2016 Report Share Posted July 13, 2016 Players are mercenaries. Get used to it. They might say things but in the end they do what is best for *them*. Why would any player come to Everton otherwise? Especially now, after finishing 11th twice and with no European football? If you want something else, forget the transfer market and just play the kids. Of course this would mean dropping down a few divisions but at least there wouldn't be too many mercenaries. For players it's just a job. They enjoy working more in some teams just like any of us would in our field. The idea that players play for a team because they love it is long gone. Players join Everton because the money is good, some because they feel they can develop and maybe move to a bigger club, some might be interested working with Koeman and so on. But if we only allow players who are fans of Everton to join the list of potential recruits is awfully short. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MC11 Posted July 13, 2016 Report Share Posted July 13, 2016 Don't think it's about being a mercenary or greedy. He's just looking for the best option. Human nature. Steve_E, Sibdane, markjazzbassist and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newty82 Posted July 13, 2016 Report Share Posted July 13, 2016 How many players exist of the quality we desire that will come here to a proposed vision for the same, or less money, than they can get at an established Champions league team? The career of a player is a very short one. If we want players to forgo their Champions league desires, we have to pay them more than we usually would. They are taking a risk at the peak of their career. Extra money is how we smooth out the risk for them. I don't like it. Not a fan of the thought at all. But we as a club are modern proof that cherry picking cheap buys will only get you so far (yes yes, I know...Leicester bloody Leicester!). So long as we don't get absolutely arse raped for fees and wages...We'll have to accept it. Out of interest...say if all this is true. Wietsel is now being told to fuck off by some...if he came in and had an absolute blinding season, fans player of the year type stuff...would he still be a mercenary? Because in my mind, he'd only become a mercenary if he came for shit load of wages then played shit every week and started speaking out about CL footy etc.(no...that is not a reference to any particular player we may have!!!). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newty82 Posted July 13, 2016 Report Share Posted July 13, 2016 Don't think it's about being a mercenary or greedy. He's just looking for the best option. Human nature. Ha. You said it better in 3 sentences than I did in 5 paragraphs!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paddock Posted July 13, 2016 Report Share Posted July 13, 2016 Most are still missing my point. We offered him a big contract, he's (allegedly) turned his nose up at it because he thought he had better options. Now those options are no longer there he all of a sudden (allegedly) likes our offer. I understand they don't come because they support Everton, I understand they want to earn as much money as they can but there has to be some level of commitment from the player. Not no thanks then oh fuck it I've no better offers so Ii'll come but didn't really want to . He's already half arsed. I want players who get offered an alleged 6 figure weekly salary to say yes straight away and sign not come back because it's their only choice. Matt 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Makis Posted July 13, 2016 Report Share Posted July 13, 2016 I don't care about that. If I was offered two jobs, one with exciting opportunities and one with a much bigger salary but only a promise that the company aims to grow big so that it can in the future offer those same chances I would also consider my options very thoroughly. I might well ask the first company if they could up their bid to make the difference smaller. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter H Posted July 13, 2016 Report Share Posted July 13, 2016 If we only want players that want to play for Everton and have us as their first choice we are going to have very few players to chose from. And not of the best caliber. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeQuince Posted July 13, 2016 Report Share Posted July 13, 2016 We know nothing of the particulars of who offered what. Nor do we know what's in Witsel's head/heart. He's a professional making a career decision. We can't rush to judgment because of the rumblings of Twitter/the press (who now often act on rumours that originate on Twitter). chicagoblue 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markjazzbassist Posted July 13, 2016 Report Share Posted July 13, 2016 (edited) don't care that we are second choice but if it's true napoli have rejected then we need to lower our offer, it's only smart as he won't have much leverage. Edited July 13, 2016 by markjazzbassist Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paddock Posted July 13, 2016 Report Share Posted July 13, 2016 Sorrybbut if he's arsed us around after being offered 120 a week then fuck him, he plays in the fucking Russian league not like it's Mata coming from a club like Man U . I just think this transfer has bad news written all over it and will all end in tears Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markjazzbassist Posted July 13, 2016 Report Share Posted July 13, 2016 Sorrybbut if he's arsed us around after being offered 120 a week then fuck him, he plays in the fucking Russian league not like it's Mata coming from a club like Man U . I just think this transfer has bad news written all over it and will all end in tears that was a journo rumour the real rumor said 60k a week and 20m fee which is palatable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Makis Posted July 13, 2016 Report Share Posted July 13, 2016 Sorrybbut if he's arsed us around after being offered 120 a week then fuck him, he plays in the fucking Russian league not like it's Mata coming from a club like Man U . I just think this transfer has bad news written all over it and will all end in tears Doesn't it prove the exact opposite of being a mercenary if he doesn't pick the highest bid as his first choice? And I bet Mata isn't an Evertonian either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newty82 Posted July 13, 2016 Report Share Posted July 13, 2016 Come to ToffeTalk for fine examples of how mankind has progressed! A fine bunch of blokes debating over nothing factual!!! Haha...no wonder the aliens are swerving past!!! chicagoblue 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shukes Posted July 13, 2016 Report Share Posted July 13, 2016 I don't understand all this...he's away on holiday but has still held contract talks with two clubs? Shouldn't we be showing more respect and leaving players alone for just one week while on holiday. Unless we haven't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted July 13, 2016 Report Share Posted July 13, 2016 I don't understand all this...he's away on holiday but has still held contract talks with two clubs? Shouldn't we be showing more respect and leaving players alone for just one week while on holiday. Unless we haven't. is his agent on holiday? I'd imagine that's where the noise is coming feom Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newty82 Posted July 13, 2016 Report Share Posted July 13, 2016 Yeah, the agents do it all! He'll just get a quick text!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mogsy Posted July 13, 2016 Report Share Posted July 13, 2016 Ah he's off to inter now apparently so there we go!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil Stewart Posted July 13, 2016 Report Share Posted July 13, 2016 Ah he's off to inter now apparently so there we go!! https://twitter.com/tofnews/status/753224490570637312 That's from talk sport who said he'd agreed a 4 year deal with napoli yesterday Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paddock Posted July 13, 2016 Report Share Posted July 13, 2016 If he does have an agreement with them he clearly fancies the Italian league as by all reports our deal has been accepted by him and Zenit so IF this is true he obviously wants to play in serie A Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duncanmckenzieismagic Posted July 13, 2016 Author Report Share Posted July 13, 2016 http://www.clickliverpool.com/sport/everton-fc/everton-fc-transfers/6252-everton-fc-on-course-to-land-euro-2016-star-after-transfer-twist/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mirallas Posted July 13, 2016 Report Share Posted July 13, 2016 http://www.clickliverpool.com/sport/everton-fc/everton-fc-transfers/6252-everton-fc-on-course-to-land-euro-2016-star-after-transfer-twist/ Norton says it's a dangerous website. My security software, not Graham. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MC11 Posted July 16, 2016 Report Share Posted July 16, 2016 I want us to walk away from this deal his agent has already disrespected us he's a tit. Also I haven't seen Witsel say he wants to come here. Concentrate on other moves. I haven't heard him say he wants to go anywhere tbh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted July 16, 2016 Report Share Posted July 16, 2016 Leicester apparently want him to replace Konte Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted July 17, 2016 Report Share Posted July 17, 2016 Leicester apparently want him to replace Konte They replaced Kante before he'd even been sold. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted July 17, 2016 Report Share Posted July 17, 2016 They replaced Kante before he'd even been sold. maybe, but that's what the rumour was and they've got CL football to offer too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted July 17, 2016 Report Share Posted July 17, 2016 maybe, but that's what the rumour was and they've got CL football to offer too They had it to offer to Kante too. I'm sick to fucking death of this rumour. He's not even worth all this fuss. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted July 17, 2016 Report Share Posted July 17, 2016 They had it to offer to Kante too. I'm sick to fucking death of this rumour. He's not even worth all this fuss. true dat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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