Blue 250 Posted October 6, 2012 Report Share Posted October 6, 2012 You're sounding like a cunt! Don't like the truth And watch it with the insults you little piece of shit pete0 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue 250 Posted October 6, 2012 Report Share Posted October 6, 2012 I have got to say, this made me chuckle! Why are you six years old? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue4Ever Posted October 6, 2012 Report Share Posted October 6, 2012 (edited) Overall it was a decent performance, nothing more. No-one really stood out and I dont think anyone was that bad. The thing Moyes should take from this game is that Fellaini can be wasted sometimes by playing alongside the striker. He should definitely be allowed to get forward, but he should also be used deeper to control possession. He has the engine to be influential at both ends of the pitch, and I think he is a little bit wasted if he is solely used as a deep midfielder or as a second striker. well said agree with that fed up of fellaini being a target man Edited October 6, 2012 by Blue4Ever Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete0 Posted October 6, 2012 Report Share Posted October 6, 2012 (edited) John Heitinga @Johnheitinga Finally happy with the draw of #Everton against #Wigan. Not happy with my performance in first half. 1-0 was offside. #COYB Shane Duffy @ShaneDuffy34 Good point away at Wigan. The lads did well to come back twice! Great support as always! Edited October 6, 2012 by pete0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chicagoblue Posted October 6, 2012 Report Share Posted October 6, 2012 Interesting to hear Heitinga's comment, but have to agree that Distin completely removed Kone from the match, which Johnny was not able to do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nottsblue Posted October 6, 2012 Report Share Posted October 6, 2012 This was always going to be a tricky fixture, Wigan played well against Sunderland last week before Gomez got sent off. All in all a draw is not too bad an outcome although sounds like we were the better side. I trawled this thread this morning & I think two people called the correct score - good call! and I hope you were on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted October 6, 2012 Author Report Share Posted October 6, 2012 Why are you six years old? Think that needs punctuation . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete0 Posted October 6, 2012 Report Share Posted October 6, 2012 I said I'd be happy with a draw, but when the officials dictate the outcome its hard to be happy. On Heitinga, Moyes should have done his homework better and played Distin from the start or have Jags playing on Kone's side. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted October 6, 2012 Report Share Posted October 6, 2012 I like Johnny's honesty a lot there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue 250 Posted October 6, 2012 Report Share Posted October 6, 2012 Think that needs punctuation . I, think, you, need, to, get, out, more.......... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zoo Posted October 6, 2012 Report Share Posted October 6, 2012 How about Naismith is shit? Scoring a hat-trick half an hour into your debut, that's the sign of a shit player if ever there was one - What a stupid comment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete0 Posted October 6, 2012 Report Share Posted October 6, 2012 Scoring a hat-trick half an hour into your debut, that's the sign of a shit player if ever there was one - What a stupid comment. Testimonials don't count . Tbh I've been disappointed with Naismith as well, the game against Leeds he was the worst of a dreadful bunch, but it's too early to say how shit he is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zoo Posted October 6, 2012 Report Share Posted October 6, 2012 He's played 6 games for us, I think it's way too early to start slagging him off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted October 6, 2012 Author Report Share Posted October 6, 2012 I'm in the "unconvinced" camp as well.....very happy to be proved wrong but I get the impression we've got McFadden mk2. pete0 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zoo Posted October 6, 2012 Report Share Posted October 6, 2012 He's played six games and IMO he hasn't done much wrong. We got him for free so if he does end up being shit we can sell him on for a nice profit, its way too early to start giving him greif so just see how he goes till Christmas when we'll have more of an idea. Out of the 6 times he's played I think most of them have been from off the bench (where we can't really expect him to set the world alight). GoodisonRoad 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoodisonRoad Posted October 6, 2012 Report Share Posted October 6, 2012 I agree with Zoo, though he was appalling against Leeds i think its very harsh to judge him just yet. Like Zoo say's we've only seen him from the bench. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted October 6, 2012 Author Report Share Posted October 6, 2012 I agree with Zoo, though he was appalling against Leeds i think its very harsh to judge him just yet. Like Zoo say's we've only seen him from the bench. Not judging him....but you get a first impression of a player. Some might have bad games but there's the odd moment where you can see a bit of a spark. Not seen that from the guy yet....doesn't mean it won't happen. First impressions can be deceiving....look at Bily . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailey Posted October 6, 2012 Report Share Posted October 6, 2012 I thought he looked good in the first couple of games he started but as above he has been very disappointing since then. I do think he will prove to be a good player but he needs to step up again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete0 Posted October 6, 2012 Report Share Posted October 6, 2012 I really don't see how the ref can not give Jela a pen after his foot is kicked Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted October 6, 2012 Author Report Share Posted October 6, 2012 Martin Keown on MOTD on the first Wigan goal... "OK, for me he's offside....but he deserves his goal." Wtf? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete0 Posted October 6, 2012 Report Share Posted October 6, 2012 He should be a contender for the Liverpool job with that logic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pearso Posted October 6, 2012 Report Share Posted October 6, 2012 I think we're due to be gifted 4 points somewhere between now and the end of the season, as after all, all these refereeing things tend to "even themselves out". But seriously, why are we always copping these rubbish decisions? When I watch any sport I try to watch with an unbiased hat on and will happily concede when a stroke of luck by poor refereeing benefits my team, but I just can't see any when watching Everton. I hate using this excuse and sounding like a bitter sore loser but we've been robbed twice now, and gifted very little by those who've robbed us. We should be on 18 points, 1 behind Chelsea if not for damn referees making certain games uphill battles. The Newcastle (disallowed) goals were clearly fair for all to see, and if from first glance on a poor television angle everyone can see it, why can't a trained, professional linesmen who is right inline with it? Anyway, I think Wigan's 3 at the back really shut down our wing play. Didn't seem much room for Bainaar or Coleman/Mirallas to work with and when they did the middle was crowded. Wish Moyes would be a bit more ruthless with his attitude. I understand humility, level headedness and modesty are reasons he's such a good person and manager (as opposed to Mancini, making excuses before for City losing before they even played Sunderland) but check this out from his post match press conference: "We thoroughly deserved the point. We played really well in the second half and kept having a go at them.” That sounds like something Martinez should be saying about drawing with us. We're third on the damn table Moyes, we're not a basket case battler team this year and the only thing stopping us qualifying for Europe will be Moyes attitude in managing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete0 Posted October 7, 2012 Report Share Posted October 7, 2012 (edited) Chelsea Reading game was 2-2 when Torres put them infront miles off side and only 10 mins to go, otherwise we may have been top. I wouldn't be so disheartened at Moyes' comments, we should have won which is sickening, but a point at the DW is a good point. Wigan has been a tough ground for more than just us. Man U were comfortably beaten there last year without getting close to Wigan's goal. Not even a single shot on target and Wigan missed a few sitters if my memory serves me right. They were cheated against City, beat Newcastle 4 nil (it should have been more), and drew with Chelsea, Everton, and Liverpool. Edited October 7, 2012 by pete0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pearso Posted October 7, 2012 Report Share Posted October 7, 2012 That's a good point Pete, but it's the kind of mindset I'm talking about. I'll probably cop a few raised eye brows for this, but the moment Moyes accepts a point against Wigan, and the moment we as supporters become comfortable with a point just because Man Utd and Newcastle couldn't get one, or because Chelsea and Liverpool got the same result, it immediately says that a draw is acceptable. Whilst realistically it probably was a reasonable result, the manager should be blasting at the troops that nothing less than a win is what they should be aiming for. Attitude is everything, an when we're already financially disadvantaged, if you haven't got attitude then what else is there? No one may agree with me here, but my old man raised me with these two ideals (which may be why my girlfriend is always having a go at me for being so competitive ) . 1. Always aim for the top. Bit of a cliché, but if you aim for the stars, at least when you fail you'll be amongst the clouds. 2. Don't compare yourself to others. Who cares what United or City or Chelsea came away from the DW with? If you're happy to compare yourself to them, you're happy to finish behind them. Personally, I just feel had Moyes sent a bit more of a message in his conference that he's disappointed we didn't get the win, rather than contempt with a draw, it would speak volumes about the ambition of this team to not just make up the numbers mid table again this season. Nil Satis Nisi Optimum right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete0 Posted October 7, 2012 Report Share Posted October 7, 2012 I think he came across as upset about only getting a draw as we deserved to win, but was contempt with the point as we were going home with non until the 86th minute. He acknowledges the side didn't play well in the first half, but the team made up for it in the second, only for poor officiating to deny us the result. I prefer the saying "second place is the first loser", but we play a 38 game season you can't win them all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duncanmckenzieismagic Posted October 7, 2012 Report Share Posted October 7, 2012 I think if you take the poor refereeing decisions out of the equation, and I dont just mean the offside goal and the penalties, then on the balance of play a draw was probably a fair result. Its the worst performance I have ever seen from Johnny H and Distin has got to be back alongside Jags next time out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pearso Posted October 7, 2012 Report Share Posted October 7, 2012 Agree 100% about Heits. Don't know what has happened to the rock at the back from last season, he was made to look very poor by Wigan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted October 7, 2012 Report Share Posted October 7, 2012 Neville was poor, totally at fault for second goal. Offered no protection whatsoever. Gibson can't return quick enough in my opinion. Fellaini has a problem with consistency, it's great being super dooper and bullying the mancs but for fucks sake a £35m player does not go missing against the likes of Leeds and Wigan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avinalaff Posted October 7, 2012 Report Share Posted October 7, 2012 Fellaini seemed to be playing a lot more central yesterday. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted October 7, 2012 Report Share Posted October 7, 2012 Fellaini seemed to be playing a lot more central yesterday. He started behind Jelly but I think he was switched because he was having absolutely no impact on the game whatsoever. It didn't really improve after the switch either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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