Avinalaff Posted April 15, 2013 Report Share Posted April 15, 2013 that and passion for the game in general. He was the same at Swindon. worked out well for me Pretty sure Rooney kissed his batch first game against us when he scored, he stuck around. You knew it was probably the only girl who would put up with you, so that's different. Matt 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted April 15, 2013 Report Share Posted April 15, 2013 You knew it was probably the only girl who would put up with you, so that's different. oh absolutely, plus shes a smokin hot ballet / ballroom dancer. Was never going to do any better Zoo 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Posted April 16, 2013 Report Share Posted April 16, 2013 (edited) A bit different from when Adebayour did it, he was doing it with the intention of winding up the Arsenal fans who had abused him during the game. Di Canio was celebrating, very enthusiastically i admit, a goal in a derby. I'm pretty sure he isnt looking to make friends. Besides, he did nothing Mourinho didnt do when he was at Chelsea, or Porto for that matter. Steve, It wasnt just a bit different, it was a hell of lot different, like you said he did it to wind up the arsenal fans, so do you think Di Canio going over the top like he did, didnt wind anybody up. ?? His behaviour, in some small way may have added fuel to the behaviour of the fans rioting after the game, their derbies are usually a bit like ours, not often any trouble, and certainly not on that scale. Edited April 16, 2013 by Bill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted April 16, 2013 Report Share Posted April 16, 2013 Mourinho does it and is considered a genius for knowing how to get all his players fighting for him. Really I don't see the difference. When the manager behaves like the 12th man the players will work for him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Posted April 16, 2013 Report Share Posted April 16, 2013 Give it a bit more time and lets see how it turns out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zoo Posted April 16, 2013 Report Share Posted April 16, 2013 Personally I can see him keeping Sunderland up. I'm tipping either Stoke or Wigan to fall through the trapdoor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevO Posted April 18, 2013 Report Share Posted April 18, 2013 Steve, It wasnt just a bit different, it was a hell of lot different, like you said he did it to wind up the arsenal fans, so do you think Di Canio going over the top like he did, didnt wind anybody up. ?? His behaviour, in some small way may have added fuel to the behaviour of the fans rioting after the game, their derbies are usually a bit like ours, not often any trouble, and certainly not on that scale. exactly, you said it was like when adebayor did it, see your post, i said it was different. The difference being that adebayor did it with the aim of winding up the fans, di canio did it as he is just passonate and doesnt control his emotions. I'm sure the Newcastle fans would have been just as wound up had martin o'neill been jumping up and down like he does when his teams score, as they were after di canio getting a bit lively. They were wound up because their team just got mullered by their rivals at home. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dalziel Kane Posted April 18, 2013 Report Share Posted April 18, 2013 There's nothing wrong with a manager showing a bit of animation overseeing his clubs endeavors. That's one thing our manager often lacks. Just appears emotionless or even devoid of interest and stands poker faced through it all. Figures like Di Canio or anyone else you can think of, that get a bit heated during contests or wildly gesticulate etc, are maybe to be applauded. This isn't a sting on Moyes, only perhaps a comparison. Managers come in all sorts of variety but some will favor those manic ones who get a bit passionate during play. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badaids Posted September 22, 2013 Report Share Posted September 22, 2013 Arrivederci Paolo. You should have been given a bit longer than that... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zoo Posted September 22, 2013 Report Share Posted September 22, 2013 I'm gutted about this as I actually like Di Canio as a man. It seems just yesterday that Sunderland fans were singing his name at the 3-0 victory they recorded over Newcastle. I think that Di Canio has some things to answer for given the way he's spent money over the summer but it's not really his fault that he was given the job? Sunderland fans need to look further than Paulo to see the reason why they are in the shit. Their board hired and in-experianced manager from the lower leagues and allowed him as much money as he wanted to blow. His attitude can't be used as an excuse either as it's been obvious ever since he came to England that he's a bit of a loose cannon - you simply don't sign Di Canio and expect him to get along with everyone 24/7. Wish him all the best, top character. Apparantly he fell out with the whole of the team this morning and that was the final straw. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Hafnia Posted September 22, 2013 Popular Post Report Share Posted September 22, 2013 If Sunderland waited a bit they could get Moyes. Sibdane, Fearthainn, Matt and 3 others 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Posted September 23, 2013 Report Share Posted September 23, 2013 (edited) To me It was a foregone conlusion, he might have been ok in the lower leagues, but if you come to the prem and start slagging off your highly paid nancy boys, its a recipe for disaster. Players rule these days and obviously he not only upset players, but also upset members of his board. When everybody was praising him on the appointment I said at the time "lets wait and see what happens". He was a bomb with a short fuse and had to explode sooner or later, Its no surprise to me. Edited September 23, 2013 by Bill Matt 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted September 23, 2013 Report Share Posted September 23, 2013 To me It was a foregone conlusion, he might have been ok in the lower leagues, but if you come to the prem and start slagging off your highly paid nancy boys, its a recipe for disaster. Players rule these days and obviously he not only upset players, but also upset members of his board. When everybody was praising him on the appointment I said at the time "lets wait and see what happens". He was a bomb with a short fuse and had to explode sooner or later, Its no surprise to me. For "everyone" read "Zoo". As far as I can tell he was the only one on the planet (Sunderland chairman aside) who thought it was a good idea . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vranny Posted September 23, 2013 Report Share Posted September 23, 2013 What an absolute cock-up by Sunderland, and specifically Ellis Short. They give Di Canio the summer to completely over-haul the squad and build it in his own image, then change their mind on him and have him dumped two games later. Insanity. Romey 1878 and Sibdane 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Posted September 23, 2013 Report Share Posted September 23, 2013 (edited) He just had to go, but he did show a lot of bottle facing the fans at the end, even after they just got hammererd again. Mike, everybody was loving his over the top celebrating, but i said it would be his downfall but nobody would have it. He has upset too many people, especially in his own club. Edited September 23, 2013 by Bill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zoo Posted September 23, 2013 Report Share Posted September 23, 2013 For "everyone" read "Zoo". As far as I can tell he was the only one on the planet (Sunderland chairman aside) who thought it was a good idea . I don't rememnber saying that tbh. I questioned the appointment like everyone else but wasn't in hecamp that wasn't prepared to give him time. He's at fault for a lot of things but to see the real reason as to why Sunderland are in 20th the boadneed to be looked at. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted September 23, 2013 Report Share Posted September 23, 2013 He just had to go, but he did show a lot of bottle facing the fans at the end, even after they just got hammererd again. Mike, everybody was loving his over the top celebrating, but i said it would be his downfall but nobody would have it. He has upset too many people, especially in his own club. Over the top celebrating has nothing to do with him being a shite manager. People recognized his passion, I dont know anyone who would say hes a good manager. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted September 23, 2013 Report Share Posted September 23, 2013 I don't rememnber saying that tbh. I questioned the appointment like everyone else but wasn't in hecamp that wasn't prepared to give him time. He's at fault for a lot of things but to see the real reason as to why Sunderland are in 20th the boadneed to be looked at. Di Canio is a legend in my opinion. Someone who I really looked up to growing up, I'd love him to be manager of Everton in the future as I think he would do really well. His passion and enthusiasm as I said in an earlier thread is unquestionable and that's the main thing you need in any walk of life. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avinalaff Posted September 23, 2013 Report Share Posted September 23, 2013 From what I can gather, it was Sunderlands Director of football Roberto Di Fanti that signed the 124 new players, and not Di Canio. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SimonButtle Posted September 23, 2013 Report Share Posted September 23, 2013 From what I can gather, it was Sunderlands Director of football Roberto Di Fanti that signed the 124 new players, and not Di Canio. Makes sense, when i heard the announcement last night, i was sure they described Di Canio as "Head Coach" rather than "Manager" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sibdane Posted September 23, 2013 Report Share Posted September 23, 2013 I'm sad to see him go, but only because I enjoyed his antics. Sunderland isn't one of the teams I'd want to go down. I think they'll be comfortably out of relegation before season-end. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cornish Steve Posted September 23, 2013 Report Share Posted September 23, 2013 So who replaces him? I don't see de Matteo as a good fit. Does McCleish want to take yet another team down? Tony Pulis may promote a negative style, but he would save them from relegation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted September 23, 2013 Report Share Posted September 23, 2013 So who replaces him? I don't see de Matteo as a good fit. Does McCleish want to take yet another team down? Tony Pulis may promote a negative style, but he would save them from relegation. If they want to stay up Pulis would be their best bet. marcus jones and Matt 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sibdane Posted September 23, 2013 Report Share Posted September 23, 2013 R. de Matteo would be my preference if I were a Sunderland fan, but that's mainly because I can't think of any other qualified managers out there right now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vranny Posted September 23, 2013 Report Share Posted September 23, 2013 You'd have to say Di Matteo from the available managers that I can think of. Produces fairly solid, no thrills teams, while not being nearly as extreme as Pulis though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Posted September 23, 2013 Report Share Posted September 23, 2013 He just had to go, but he did show a lot of bottle facing the fans at the end, even after they just got hammererd again. Mike, everybody was loving his over the top celebrating, but i said it would be his downfall but nobody would have it. He has upset too many people, especially in his own club. Over the top celebrating has nothing to do with him being a shite manager. People recognized his passion, I dont know anyone who would say hes a good manager. ???. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted September 23, 2013 Report Share Posted September 23, 2013 His passion was great and to be honest I think he may have read a few home truths to some of sunderlands mercenaries. The end of the day it's a results business, there will be some of those cowards just hoping the next manager gives them an easy ride... He's great entertainment you can't knock that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mogsy Posted September 23, 2013 Report Share Posted September 23, 2013 I was thinking Poyet, but would they risk a championship manager again? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dalziel Kane Posted September 23, 2013 Report Share Posted September 23, 2013 Di Canio was yet another example of a former player that couldn't cut it at managerial level. Got nothing against the player, some will give plaudits for his goodwill actions in a league game with us when at West Ham when he stopped play to prevent a goal, and his antics in the Paul Allcock incident, but he should have found a job in the game in another capacity in retrospect. Who they find as a replacement, all a bit indifferent, as not fussed how Sunderland do, but if Niall Quinn is available, could be worth a try again. Pity Ian Porterfield is no longer with us, as he would have been a decent shout to try once more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foobiezw Posted September 26, 2013 Report Share Posted September 26, 2013 Agree with most of the above comments. Loved the passion, but he didn't really have much behind it to back him up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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