c1982 Posted February 8, 2017 Report Share Posted February 8, 2017 Many wingers seem to do well in Italy. It's a 'slower' league than here so should there be no future here, then he's in the perfect place for us to maximise our profit. Haven't Barca got a by back at set price still though? If his value is say £20m it wouldn't be the first time Barca/Real have brought back an ex player for a pre-agreed low price to be sold on for huge profit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted February 8, 2017 Report Share Posted February 8, 2017 yep and this is the means to do so. he's not a koeman player. not physical enough, doesn't track back, can't run all day, he's gone. I hope he's as gone as you thought McCarthy was . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MC11 Posted February 8, 2017 Report Share Posted February 8, 2017 Many wingers seem to do well in Italy. It's a 'slower' league than here so should there be no future here, then he's in the perfect place for us to maximise our profit. Haven't Barca got a by back at set price still though? If his value is say £20m it wouldn't be the first time Barca/Real have brought back an ex player for a pre-agreed low price to be sold on for huge profit. I'm sure the details of Barca's involvement will have been ironed out as it was mentioned by the Milan board to the media during negotiations with us. I read there is an agreed figure should Milan want to make the loan permanent! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markjazzbassist Posted February 8, 2017 Report Share Posted February 8, 2017 (edited) I hope he's as gone as you thought McCarthy was . I still hope McCarthy goes in the summer. I'd prefer Davies and gana over him and we already have schneiderlin Barry and besic. Edited February 8, 2017 by markjazzbassist Bailey 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted February 9, 2017 Report Share Posted February 9, 2017 I still hope McCarthy goes in the summer. I'd prefer Davies and gana over him and we already have schneiderlin Barry and besic. Barry's leg are going to fall off soon, and as much as I love Besic he's missed a lot of football and there's no guarantee that he'll even get the opportunity to prove himself with everyone else having already took their chance to earn a spot. Not to mention Koeman might not even fancy Besic, whereas he has repeatedly stated he likes McCarthy. So if McCarthy goes it'll be because he's chosen to, but if he's honest with himself then he'll realise he's not going to play for a better team than Everton and that we're a club going places and he'll stay. Bailey and Sibdane 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted February 9, 2017 Report Share Posted February 9, 2017 I still hope McCarthy goes in the summer. I'd prefer Davies and gana over him and we already have schneiderlin Barry and besic.why?! He's shown fantastic form recently! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markjazzbassist Posted February 9, 2017 Report Share Posted February 9, 2017 Give it a game or two matt when he's done his hamstring again. Then get back to me lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted February 9, 2017 Report Share Posted February 9, 2017 I think Koeman did what Martinez didn't; given him to truly recover. We'll see, I guess... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aaron Posted February 9, 2017 Report Share Posted February 9, 2017 I think Koeman did what Martinez didn't; given him to truly recover. We'll see, I guess... This. Koeman kicked up a fuss when Mccarthy was called up to the Ireland squad whilst still recovering, clearly wants him 100% fit then almost fit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevO Posted February 9, 2017 Report Share Posted February 9, 2017 McCarthy is twice the player Besic will ever be! Bailey 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markjazzbassist Posted February 9, 2017 Report Share Posted February 9, 2017 McCarthy is twice the player Besic will ever be! once Gana gets in there with Schneiderlin I think well see james glued to the bench, and he wants to play that's why I think he will leave. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevO Posted February 9, 2017 Report Share Posted February 9, 2017 It's a squad game Mark, especially if we play at a high tempo. Players will need to be rested. Different players will be picked for different matches. Like Barry being dropped for McCarthy on Saturday, even with Gana back, as Koemans plans suited McCarthy better. We'll need Davies, McCarthy, Gana and Schneiderlin if we are to progress. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markjazzbassist Posted February 9, 2017 Report Share Posted February 9, 2017 It's a squad game Mark, especially if we play at a high tempo. Players will need to be rested. Different players will be picked for different matches. Like Barry being dropped for McCarthy on Saturday, even with Gana back, as Koemans plans suited McCarthy better. We'll need Davies, McCarthy, Gana and Schneiderlin if we are to progress. makes sense if you're arsenal and united with massive payrolls and squads, but we've got none of that and we don't have Europe yet to justify it. I'd rather have the extra body in attack than centre mid as weve got plenty there now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MC11 Posted February 9, 2017 Report Share Posted February 9, 2017 We've looked better with McCarthy in the side this season. I did hate the Barry/McCarthy combo it was just awful but it's been mixed up with new players. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plaidharper Posted February 9, 2017 Report Share Posted February 9, 2017 http://www.thesportbible.com/football/funny-watch-italian-commentator-goes-absolutely-nuts-for-ac-milan-20170209 markjazzbassist 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sibdane Posted February 9, 2017 Report Share Posted February 9, 2017 I would love to see Gerry improve massively during his loan and come back to us a more consistent player. There aren't many that can cross like him and his pace is blistering. If he ever meets his potential he'll be a very dangerous player. He's still young, and a winger, so inconsistency is almost a given at this point. He needs game time but realistically he won't get it here because we have players better than him -- but only at the moment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevO Posted February 9, 2017 Report Share Posted February 9, 2017 But Mark we can afford a bigger payroll, and we need to aim for a bigger squad. Europe isn't out of the window either, long way to go in this season yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markjazzbassist Posted February 9, 2017 Report Share Posted February 9, 2017 But Mark we can afford a bigger payroll, and we need to aim for a bigger squad. Europe isn't out of the window either, long way to go in this season yet. which under FFP we can't get unless we sell rom for 100m or sell other players and replace them with higher paying players. Hence why stones was sold and why others are leaving the door now too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevO Posted February 9, 2017 Report Share Posted February 9, 2017 It's not FFP that's the issue. It's the regulations in the new TV revenue. You can increase by a percentage of the additional TV revenues each year. On top of that we have shipped out a load of below standard players and we have additional commercial revenue. So next season we can afford to increase our wage bill. Apart from Stones, the other players who left were on pretty decent contracts. Just from gettin Niasse, Gibson, Oviedo, Cleverley and Kone in the summer off the wage bill we should be able to get two very well paid players even before the wage bill goes up against this seasons figures. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paddock Posted February 10, 2017 Report Share Posted February 10, 2017 Lets hope we don't sign Rooney back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted February 10, 2017 Report Share Posted February 10, 2017 Lets hope we don't sign Rooney back.you meant to post that here? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paddock Posted February 10, 2017 Report Share Posted February 10, 2017 It's another Ro dammit :shaking fist: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paddock Posted February 10, 2017 Report Share Posted February 10, 2017 Oh wrong thread ?? It was meant for the Barkley (I think) thread with the Ron, Rom, Ross Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted February 19, 2017 Report Share Posted February 19, 2017 http://twitter.com/btsportfootball/status/833411542758604800 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palfy Posted February 19, 2017 Report Share Posted February 19, 2017 Cool as you like great finish, good on ya son. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smeghead1 Posted February 20, 2017 Report Share Posted February 20, 2017 If only he was consistent enough to do that game in game out............. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted February 21, 2017 Report Share Posted February 21, 2017 https://www.clubcall.com/everton/barca-target-winger-deal-1842521.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sibdane Posted February 21, 2017 Report Share Posted February 21, 2017 https://www.clubcall.com/everton/barca-target-winger-deal-1842521.html I would be pretty annoyed if that happened, but it's always been a possibility. Romey 1878 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markjazzbassist Posted February 21, 2017 Report Share Posted February 21, 2017 https://www.clubcall.com/everton/barca-target-winger-deal-1842521.html not surprised in the least, I think MC said way back when they bought him they would do this. I don't blame them, and I think that's why he's been loaned out, Koeman/Walsh knew he was a goner regardless. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted February 21, 2017 Report Share Posted February 21, 2017 not surprised in the least, I think MC said way back when they bought him they would do this. I don't blame them, and I think that's why he's been loaned out, Koeman/Walsh knew he was a goner regardless. I think it's more likely that Barca are reacting to us loaning him out tbh - they've seen that the new management aren't that keen on him and we'll be looking to move him on, so Barca have seen a quick way to make some money on him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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