Guest millwallforever Posted September 29, 2014 Report Share Posted September 29, 2014 If we play the same team as against Swansea, they will massacre us. Their midfield is very good: Ahmedov the Uzbek is a beast and Izmailov, who has already beaten us in the past, is still a top class player. Then we'll have to deal with the pace of Bystrov, not to mention their South Americans. Just had a word with Muscovite mate about the game. He told me that the teams from Moscow and St Petersburg are terrified of places like Krasnodar and Grozny. There is usually an eerie atmosphere, the crowds are hostile, and a newly founded club like Krasnodar has a point to prove; hence they take the Europa League very seriously. They also have a ruthless crook as owner who accepts no dilly-dallying from his players. I think we'll do them and do them easy.Not saying they're rubbish I don't know anything about them but I just have a feeling we're going to twat them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elston Gunnn Posted September 29, 2014 Report Share Posted September 29, 2014 The trip is actually not that long. Three hour's flight from Liverpool to Krasnodar and time difference of three hours. Theoretically they could take off 10 o'clock in the morning and be back home before midnight. Interesting. I assumed they'd fly there Wed eve. But if this isn't one of those proverbial "long trips to southeast Europe," what is? Panathinaikos? Trabzonspor? Is it all an urban legend? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paddock Posted September 29, 2014 Report Share Posted September 29, 2014 If we play the same team as against Swansea, they will massacre us. Their midfield is very good: Ahmedov the Uzbek is a beast and Izmailov, who has already beaten us in the past, is still a top class player. Then we'll have to deal with the pace of Bystrov, not to mention their South Americans. Just had a word with Muscovite mate about the game. He told me that the teams from Moscow and St Petersburg are terrified of places like Krasnodar and Grozny. There is usually an eerie atmosphere, the crowds are hostile, and a newly founded club like Krasnodar has a point to prove; hence they take the Europa League very seriously. They also have a ruthless crook as owner who accepts no dilly-dallying from his players. I can see us quaking in our boots running out then!! You can make it sound as scary as you want. We'll beat them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted September 29, 2014 Report Share Posted September 29, 2014 The trip is actually not that long. Three hour's flight from Liverpool to Krasnodar and time difference of three hours. Theoretically they could take off 10 o'clock in the morning and be back home before midnight. It's more than that. "As the crow flies" Liverpool to Krasnodar is just short of 2000 miles; unless we charter a concorde that's considerably more than three hours. The flight I take fairly regularly is less than 1400 miles and that's (at best, with a following wind) three and a quarter on something like a 737 or an A320, and that's just time in the air, you have to add pissing around in airport time. Minimum five hour flight I reckon, plus airport. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted September 29, 2014 Report Share Posted September 29, 2014 There likely to be any racial abuse of our players out there? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted September 29, 2014 Report Share Posted September 29, 2014 Minimum five hour flight I reckon, plus airport. Bit less according to this. http://www.travelmath.com/flying-time/from/Liverpool,+United+Kingdom/to/Krasnodar,+Russia Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest millwallforever Posted September 29, 2014 Report Share Posted September 29, 2014 A regular flight from Liverpool to Moscow takes slightly more than 4 hours. I would assume that we are not flying with Ryan Air. And I'm sure that the Russkies will make special arrangements for Mighty Everton. It's more than that. "As the crow flies" Liverpool to Krasnodar is just short of 2000 miles; unless we charter a concorde that's considerably more than three hours. The flight I take fairly regularly is less than 1400 miles and that's (at best, with a following wind) three and a quarter on something like a 737 or an A320, and that's just time in the air, you have to add pissing around in airport time. Minimum five hour flight I reckon, plus airport. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chicagoblue Posted September 29, 2014 Report Share Posted September 29, 2014 (edited) There likely to be any racial abuse of our players out there? Hard to say. South of Russia is probably most diverse bit. Lots of folks from the stans and the Caucuses, Baku etc, plus half their team is foreign. It won't be nearly as bad as St. Petersburg. But then again, it's still Russia and you have things like this on network TV Edited September 29, 2014 by chicagoblue Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted September 29, 2014 Report Share Posted September 29, 2014 A regular flight from Liverpool to Moscow takes slightly more than 4 hours. I would assume that we are not flying with Ryan Air. And I'm sure that the Russkies will make special arrangements for Mighty Everton. Journey to Moscow's about four hundred miles less than to Krasnodar, so I don't see where you got three hours from. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest millwallforever Posted September 29, 2014 Report Share Posted September 29, 2014 (edited) I don't think so. The culprits are typically the teams from the north, with Zenit St Petersburg being the biggest racist sh*thole of them all. There likely to be any racial abuse of our players out there? Edited September 29, 2014 by millwallforever Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cornish Steve Posted September 29, 2014 Report Share Posted September 29, 2014 Another factor I agree, not thought of that. But it should be OK hopefully, still decent weather over there, luckily it's not Siberia.] Have been there in the past. Krasnodar is further south than Moscow so the weather should be fine. Close to Chechnya. It's a beautiful city actually. I quite enjoyed my business trip there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest millwallforever Posted September 29, 2014 Report Share Posted September 29, 2014 (edited) I don't doubt that your calculations are 100% spot on. I am geographically situated right between Liverpool and the Black Sea. From personal experience I know that I can fly in both directions and reach my destination in (sometimes less than) two hours. In other words: I have made no rigorous calculations but rough estimates, assuming that special flights taking the shortest possible route as well as avoiding all the customary malarkey at the airports will do the job faster. Journey to Moscow's about four hundred miles less than to Krasnodar, so I don't see where you got three hours from. Edited September 29, 2014 by millwallforever Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest millwallforever Posted September 29, 2014 Report Share Posted September 29, 2014 (edited) Interesting. I assumed they'd fly there Wed eve. But if this isn't one of those proverbial "long trips to southeast Europe," what is? Panathinaikos? Trabzonspor? Is it all an urban legend? Next year I will be moving to that part of the world. Having been there a couple of times, it feels like a place 'just around the corner' to me. I think it is all a question of attitude: if you are going there to become totally pissed and get beaten up by the locals, then it will be a long trip for sure. Edited September 29, 2014 by millwallforever Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueBlood81 Posted September 29, 2014 Report Share Posted September 29, 2014 (edited) Cheers for the geography lesson, anyways....I'd like us to line up a bit like....T-How, Garbutt, Milkman, Birdman, Browning, McCarthy, Bes, Ossie, McGeady, Eto'o, Rom. They may be dangerous (I'll take someone who knows more about them than I do's word for it) but losing/drawing away in Russia is not going to dent confidence too much. Edited September 29, 2014 by BlueBlood81 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted September 29, 2014 Report Share Posted September 29, 2014 Cheers for the geography lesson, anyways....I'd like us to line up a bit like....T-How, Garbutt, Milkman, Birdman, Browning, McCarthy, Bes, Ossie, McGeady, Eto'o, Rom. They may be dangerous (I'll take someone who knows more about them than I do's word for it) but losing/drawing away in Russia is not going to dent confidence too much. Had to think about that one for a moment . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeQuince Posted September 30, 2014 Report Share Posted September 30, 2014 Had to think about that one for a moment . Same. But, once I freed my mind of its shackles and made the association, I had a good laugh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted September 30, 2014 Report Share Posted September 30, 2014 Had to think about that one for a moment . I am lost Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted September 30, 2014 Report Share Posted September 30, 2014 I am lost Alcaraz. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted September 30, 2014 Report Share Posted September 30, 2014 Alcaraz. Thats not helping to explain the nickname Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted September 30, 2014 Report Share Posted September 30, 2014 Thats not helping to explain the nickname Then you are a lost cause! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted September 30, 2014 Report Share Posted September 30, 2014 Thats not helping to explain the nickname http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Stroud Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paddock Posted September 30, 2014 Report Share Posted September 30, 2014 (edited) Fucking hell Matt Edited September 30, 2014 by Paddock Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted September 30, 2014 Report Share Posted September 30, 2014 Thanks, Mike. At least someone has a heart Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluenosetoffee Posted September 30, 2014 Report Share Posted September 30, 2014 I would play Browning. I know it might be chucking him in the deep end but I wouldn't want to rush Coleman back from injury so soon. Browning is a natural CB, but he is strong and could hold the ball up field. My starting 11 would be: Howard Browning Stones Distin Baines Besic Osman McGeady Naismith Oviedo Lukaku Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chicagoblue Posted September 30, 2014 Report Share Posted September 30, 2014 Mostly agree with bluenose, but I really don't think Osman can ever start another game. He's a liability. Start with Gibson, even if he can only go 45. Bring Ossie on in the second half. Also would have Distin and Alcaraz, would be good for them to form a partnership and I can see it working nicely, Distin to provide the pace and cover, Alcaraz to read the game and bring the ball out of defense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted October 1, 2014 Report Share Posted October 1, 2014 McCarthy, Coleman, Pienaar and Distin aren't in the squad for this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marcopaulo Posted October 1, 2014 Report Share Posted October 1, 2014 Besic almost certain to start then? Ledson in the squad too will be nice to see him this season at some point Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duncanmckenzieismagic Posted October 1, 2014 Report Share Posted October 1, 2014 McCarthy, Coleman, Pienaar and Distin aren't in the squad for this. http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/james-mccarthy-misses-everton-fcs-7862161 Apparently he has a hamstring injury. Ryan Ledson has travelled with them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FairWooney Posted October 1, 2014 Report Share Posted October 1, 2014 what is it with the hamstrings on these lads?! Mirallas, Coleman and now McCarthy all out with gammy hammys! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted October 1, 2014 Report Share Posted October 1, 2014 what is it with the hamstrings on these lads?! Mirallas, Coleman and now McCarthy all out with gammy hammys! Coleman's is a head injury isn't it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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