Shukes Posted January 3, 2015 Report Share Posted January 3, 2015 Go ahead Jameshh, besicshh has balls 3 times the size of yourshhs and he doeshhnt give a duck if he gets shhent off. I don't care howsh good McCartney ish, if he thinks he's bigger than this pub then off with you and we'll find a cheaper belter alternativeish. Ye we tried to read your comment last night and guessed that. markjazzbassist 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted January 10, 2015 Report Share Posted January 10, 2015 http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/tottenham-target-everton-midfielder-james-4950895? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter H Posted January 10, 2015 Report Share Posted January 10, 2015 I love McCarthy and see him as the future Everton captain. 25 mil is obviously a lot of money and a 12 mil profit in just over 1 year so I understand if the club is tempted. He is however worth a lot more to the club so unless those two tight London clubs come back with at least 40 mil I seriously hope Everton tell them to f@ck off. Matt and MikeO 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Makis Posted January 10, 2015 Report Share Posted January 10, 2015 McCarthy is the key to Martinez's system so I would be very surprised if he is sold. Biggest reason we have struggled so much this season has been his absence. MC11 and Matt 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted January 10, 2015 Report Share Posted January 10, 2015 McCarthy is the key to Martinez's system so I would be very surprised if he is sold. Biggest reason we have struggled so much this season has been his absence. I'd agree with that to be honest. MC11 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted January 17, 2015 Report Share Posted January 17, 2015 (edited) He has played 13 games where he has played +45 minutes and there are 13 games where he never played or didn't complete more than 45 minutes. So its a good sample size. In the 13 games he has featured as per criteria above. We have won 23 points - 1.76 per game. In the 13 games he never featured we have won 9 points - 0.69 per game. In the 13 games he featured we scored 28 goals - 2.15 per game. In the games he never we scored 11 goals - 0.84 per game In the 13 games he featured we conceded 18 goals - 1.38 per game. The games he didnt play we conceded 19. Massive player who's importance to our team is clear just on those stats alone. Forget assists, goals, shots or whatever. It's as clear as day that without this lad we are not close to being the team we could be. Edited January 17, 2015 by Hafnia MikeO, Romey 1878, MC11 and 1 other 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted January 17, 2015 Report Share Posted January 17, 2015 http://m.huffpost.com/uk/entry/6260156 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted January 17, 2015 Report Share Posted January 17, 2015 He has played 13 games where he has played +45 minutes and there are 13 games where he never played or didn't complete more than 45 minutes. So its a good sample size. In the 13 games he has featured as per criteria above. We have won 23 points - 1.76 per game. In the 13 games he never featured we have won 9 points - 0.69 per game. In the 13 games he featured we scored 28 goals - 2.15 per game. In the games he never we scored 11 goals - 0.84 per game In the 13 games he featured we conceded 18 goals - 1.38 per game. The games he didnt play we conceded 19. I know I complained about useless stats yesterday but that's unquestionably good use of them. Very revealing and impossible to argue against (though I'm sure some will try ). http://m.huffpost.com/uk/entry/6260156 It's the kind of stats used in that that I hate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted January 17, 2015 Report Share Posted January 17, 2015 I know I complained about useless stats yesterday but that's unquestionably good use of them. Very revealing and impossible to argue against (though I'm sure some will try ). It's the kind of stats used in that that I hate. I agree, stats very much depends on how they are used. That's why I hate the usual Elstone bullshit. All spin and very feeble. There are some stats you just can't argue against though. The McCarthy factor is one of them. I'm certain that a fully fit Kevin Mirallas impacts our team positively but I've said all along McCarthy earns us the right to play football. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest rusty747 Posted January 17, 2015 Report Share Posted January 17, 2015 McCarthy certainly gives us a platform. I think he also gives the attacking mids and forwards the confidence to try things as they know that if they lose possession he will regain it for them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
c1982 Posted January 17, 2015 Report Share Posted January 17, 2015 We play much, much better with McCarthy in our team FACT... if you can't see that then you don't know much about football. ...sounds familiar! Matt 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted January 19, 2015 Report Share Posted January 19, 2015 Watch the team lift and results improve when he comes back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted January 19, 2015 Report Share Posted January 19, 2015 Watch the team lift and results improve when he comes back. Can't come too soon. Matt 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lowensda Posted January 19, 2015 Report Share Posted January 19, 2015 Hurry the fuck back James. Matt 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted January 19, 2015 Report Share Posted January 19, 2015 Someone at the game said they've got in on good authority he's off to Spurs. With any luck it's like 99% of these things; bullshit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted January 20, 2015 Report Share Posted January 20, 2015 Someone at the game said they've got in on good authority he's off to Spurs. With any luck it's like 99% of these things; bullshit. I very much doubt that. We would be daft to do that, without him we lack any tempo or aggression. He and Besic will form a great partnership. Matt, Lowensda and Romey 1878 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted January 22, 2015 Report Share Posted January 22, 2015 http://www.goal.com/en-gb/news/2892/transfer-zone/2015/01/22/8183912/-? Kaboul is just shite, and Lennon not good enough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MC11 Posted January 22, 2015 Report Share Posted January 22, 2015 I wouldn't mind getting £20m for him. We have Besic. £20m could be well spent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Makis Posted January 22, 2015 Report Share Posted January 22, 2015 Besic is nowhere the player McCarthy is. We might just as well swap Mirallas for Lennon since they sort of play in the same position. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted January 22, 2015 Report Share Posted January 22, 2015 Besic is nowhere the player McCarthy is. We might just as well swap Mirallas for Lennon since they sort of play in the same position. It takes an astute footballing eye to notice that so I wouldn't expect some people to agree with you. With McCarthy we have shape and more tempo, we turn over the ball quicker and attack quicker as he only takes 1-2 touches. Remember years ago Liverpool fans thought Gerrard was the be all and end all of the midfield - Alonso was the player that gave them the platform to play. When he was missing Liverpool didn't look the same team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Btay Posted January 22, 2015 Report Share Posted January 22, 2015 It takes an astute footballing eye to notice that so I wouldn't expect some people to agree with you. With McCarthy we have shape and more tempo, we turn over the ball quicker and attack quicker as he only takes 1-2 touches. Remember years ago Liverpool fans thought Gerrard was the be all and end all of the midfield - Alonso was the player that gave them the platform to play. When he was missing Liverpool didn't look the same team. As much as a I like McCarthy he isn't near alonso's level whilst at Liverpool.... Great at wining the ball back and his energy levels are unmatched which we lack, but is passing range isn't excellent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shukes Posted January 22, 2015 Report Share Posted January 22, 2015 I think we're realising how important McCarthy is now he isn't here. Will be Interesting to see how we fare once he is back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted January 22, 2015 Report Share Posted January 22, 2015 As much as a I like McCarthy he isn't near alonso's level whilst at Liverpool.... Great at wining the ball back and his energy levels are unmatched which we lack, but is passing range isn't excellent. Its not what level they are comparitively as they have different strengths at different elements, alonso is more technical vs mccarthy more physical. But both are fundamental to how the team play, tactically and tempo wise. You can watch a game and not appreciate what they give till they aren't there. They do the supposed simple things so well - consistently. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter H Posted January 22, 2015 Report Share Posted January 22, 2015 This wont happen unless they come in with a monster bid. 20 mil is nowhere near enough for McCarthy. (He might be worth that to other clubs but he is worth more than that to us.) He is the future Everton captain. We simply cant sell him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted January 22, 2015 Report Share Posted January 22, 2015 (edited) This wont happen unless they come in with a monster bid. 20 mil is nowhere near enough for McCarthy. (He might be worth that to other clubs but he is worth more than that to us.) He is the future Everton captain. We simply cant sell him. Take that £20m comment with a pinch of salt. You are falling into his little trap - not worth discussing. Edited January 22, 2015 by Hafnia Peter H 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MC11 Posted January 22, 2015 Report Share Posted January 22, 2015 I'd sell him he's worth what we paid for him so £20m is more than enough. If they're offering Lennon as well why not? We could get a better midfielder for £20m Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MC11 Posted January 22, 2015 Report Share Posted January 22, 2015 http://www.goal.com/en-gb/news/2892/transfer-zone/2015/01/22/8183912/-? Kaboul is just shite, and Lennon not good enough. That picture is when Bojan toasted him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted January 22, 2015 Report Share Posted January 22, 2015 For all those who love McCarthy and yes he is good should he not come out and say he wants to stay and help us climb the league ? He probably would if someone asked him, you can't expect players to run a regular update of their intentions; and even if they did (statistically speaking) 76.2% of it would be only 28.3% accurate. Deacs and Matt 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted January 22, 2015 Report Share Posted January 22, 2015 I'd sell him he's worth what we paid for him so £20m is more than enough. If they're offering Lennon as well why not? We could get a better midfielder for £20m Clearly a club like spurs who collect midfielders don't agree. Otherwise they would spend £20m on someone else.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MC11 Posted January 22, 2015 Report Share Posted January 22, 2015 Clearly a club like spurs who collect midfielders don't agree. Otherwise they would spend £20m on someone else.. There is no weight in this move. Nobody would pay £20m for him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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