Allardyce sacked already

[badaids]

This is at the very least incredibly foolish by Big Sam to get caught out in this way. We know he stood down as head of some company's when he got the job, but the report says that he carried on seeing these undercover journalists even last week.

 

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/09/26/exclusive-investigation-england-manager-sam-allardyce-for-sale/

 

What do you lot think?

 

 

[Romey 1878]

I hope he does get the sack.

[markjazzbassist]

wow! is the telegraph a credible newspaper? (ignorant american alert.....sorry )

 

please post the rest of the articles when they're released, i wonder who the other managers and players mentioned here are.

[Cornish Steve]

wow! is the telegraph a credible newspaper? (ignorant american alert.....sorry )

 

please post the rest of the articles when they're released, i wonder who the other managers and players mentioned here are.

 

The Telegraph and the Guardian are perhaps the most credible. The Mail and the Sun are, let's say, imaginative.

[markjazzbassist]

 

The Telegraph and the Guardian are perhaps the most credible. The Mail and the Sun are, let's say, imaginative.

 

thanks, i look forward to the rest of this report then, very interesting.

[Hafnia]

He's fucked.

[Sibdane]

Oh dear.

[johnh]

I have no sympathy with Allardyce but could this be classed as 'entrapment'? Knowing the Telegraph I expect they have done their homework but what if Allardyce and his cronies say they knew it was a set-up but went along with it for a joke?

[Matt]

So long as the rest of the FA (those implicated at least) get the same detailed investigation and punishment if found guilty, then good. Dyke must be shitting himself...

[Romey 1878]

So long as the rest of the FA (those implicated at least) get the same detailed investigation and punishment if found guilty, then good. Dyke must be shitting himself...

 

Why? Dyke is gone.

[Matt]

 

Why? Dyke is gone.

you think this is only just started now? If investigations start, he's going to get fucked Edited September 27, 2016 by Matt

[Romey 1878]

you think this is only just started now? If investigations start, he's going to get fucked

 

I very much doubt anything will be done to Dyke.

[Mirallas]

I'll be honest here. I have only seen the highlights of the whole thing and I don't think it's as shocking as the articles make it out to be.

 

1. The business practice he is explaining/offering is basically him offering his services as a mediator, nothing shocking about that, and the practice he's suggesting is a legal loophole. I don't think it's directly illegal, cause it's a commission-on-a-commission kind of construction. He's being a businessman. You can only rly debate the ethicality of the practice itself.
2. His comments on Hodgson were done in private and were nuanced. He said Hodgson was maybe a little indecisive which could cause some anxiety with the players. And that's Allardyce's right to have an opinion. He'd never say this publically. The fact that this private conversation was exposed and sensationalized for the world to hear is scummy.

[Matt]

 

I very much doubt anything will be done to Dyke.

we thought the same for Blatter and Platini, but they're getting a headache now. I guess we'll have to wait and see

[Romey 1878]

we thought the same for Blatter and Platini, but they're getting a headache now. I guess we'll have to wait and see

I doubt Dyke has even done anything wrong tbh.

[Matt]

I doubt Dyke has even done anything wrong tbh.

theres something about him that I've never trusted. Even if he hasn't done anything directly, is he not still responsible for those who are corrupt under his watch?

[Romey 1878]

theres something about him that I've never trusted. Even if he hasn't done anything directly, is he not still responsible for those who are corrupt under his watch?

Who are these corrupt people? I haven't read into the whole saga if I'm honest (I don't care enough), so I don't know if Allardyce has said the way to get round the rules is to pay off FA officals or whether it was done in another way. If it's the former, then yes, if it's not then I don't really see how the FA are corrupt (in this case).

[marcopaulo]

Offered his resignation apparently

[MikeO]

Offered his resignation apparently

 

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2016/09/27/sam-allardyce-loses-job-as-england-manager-after-telegraph-inves/

[Romey 1878]

Can't stop laughing .

 

Moyes better be looking over his shoulder.

[MikeO]

Stupid sod but I really hate this entrapment tactic by the press; and I thought it was a tabloid tactic? Expect better of the broadsheets.

[MikeO]

Can't stop laughing .

 

Moyes better be looking over his shoulder.

 

They'll probably just swap; Moyes for England!

[markjazzbassist]

I was just going to ask do you think any clubs will take a punt on him. Decent manager for lower table Premier or Championship side, but is he tainted?

[MikeO]

I was just going to ask do you think any clubs will take a punt on him. Decent manager for lower table Premier or Championship side, but is he tainted?

 

Oh for sure he'll get another job, no doubt about that.

 

Pardew, Southgate and Bruce favourites to take over, God help us.

[MikeO]

Confirmed on the beeb..

 

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/37483344

[badaids]

I feel a bit sorry that he's had to fall on his sword, but he's been really foolish here and shown a monumental lack of judgement and greed.

 

He's essentially met a load of businessmen that he hardly knew, except for the fact that they were dodgy and although he hasn't committed as far as we know anything wrong with regards to the footage, he has committed indiscretions and discussed shady topics that he shouldn't have. It doesn't matter that he said 'I'll have to discuss it with the FA'. It's like the head of HMRC meeting a load of dodgy bankers and giving them tips on how to evade tax, talking about other tax deals, and tax experts. The following 'so whats' come out of it:

 

What else was in the footage that hasn't come out yet? Or wasn't recorded?

What has Allardyce done in the past, that hasn't come out yet? I've always thought he looked dodgy.

Given the indiscretions with strangers that he has shown about Roy et al, how can he expect any of his players, staff or FA bigwigs to trust him or come to him with an issue?

Was this the thin end of the wedge - what other grubby deals would Allardyce have got up to.

 

Feel sorry for Sam, but he's been a complete tit here and it looks like he will pay the price.

 

Ironically the other likely options: Bruce, Pardew and Redknapp are all dodgy as fuck too!

[Matt]

Title updated....

 

[markjazzbassist]

might be time to hire a foreigner then

[Hafnia]

Greedy bastard. disgusting that he has done that. No sympathy at all.

[Mogsy]