badaids Posted September 26, 2016 Report Share Posted September 26, 2016 This is at the very least incredibly foolish by Big Sam to get caught out in this way. We know he stood down as head of some company's when he got the job, but the report says that he carried on seeing these undercover journalists even last week. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/09/26/exclusive-investigation-england-manager-sam-allardyce-for-sale/ What do you lot think? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted September 26, 2016 Report Share Posted September 26, 2016 I hope he does get the sack. Lowensda 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markjazzbassist Posted September 26, 2016 Report Share Posted September 26, 2016 wow! is the telegraph a credible newspaper? (ignorant american alert.....sorry ) please post the rest of the articles when they're released, i wonder who the other managers and players mentioned here are. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cornish Steve Posted September 26, 2016 Report Share Posted September 26, 2016 wow! is the telegraph a credible newspaper? (ignorant american alert.....sorry ) please post the rest of the articles when they're released, i wonder who the other managers and players mentioned here are. The Telegraph and the Guardian are perhaps the most credible. The Mail and the Sun are, let's say, imaginative. markjazzbassist, rubecula and Quinn31 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markjazzbassist Posted September 26, 2016 Report Share Posted September 26, 2016 The Telegraph and the Guardian are perhaps the most credible. The Mail and the Sun are, let's say, imaginative. thanks, i look forward to the rest of this report then, very interesting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted September 26, 2016 Report Share Posted September 26, 2016 He's fucked. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sibdane Posted September 27, 2016 Report Share Posted September 27, 2016 Oh dear. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnh Posted September 27, 2016 Report Share Posted September 27, 2016 I have no sympathy with Allardyce but could this be classed as 'entrapment'? Knowing the Telegraph I expect they have done their homework but what if Allardyce and his cronies say they knew it was a set-up but went along with it for a joke? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted September 27, 2016 Report Share Posted September 27, 2016 So long as the rest of the FA (those implicated at least) get the same detailed investigation and punishment if found guilty, then good. Dyke must be shitting himself... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted September 27, 2016 Report Share Posted September 27, 2016 So long as the rest of the FA (those implicated at least) get the same detailed investigation and punishment if found guilty, then good. Dyke must be shitting himself... Why? Dyke is gone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted September 27, 2016 Report Share Posted September 27, 2016 (edited) Why? Dyke is gone. you think this is only just started now? If investigations start, he's going to get fucked Edited September 27, 2016 by Matt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted September 27, 2016 Report Share Posted September 27, 2016 you think this is only just started now? If investigations start, he's going to get fucked I very much doubt anything will be done to Dyke. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mirallas Posted September 27, 2016 Report Share Posted September 27, 2016 I'll be honest here. I have only seen the highlights of the whole thing and I don't think it's as shocking as the articles make it out to be. The business practice he is explaining/offering is basically him offering his services as a mediator, nothing shocking about that, and the practice he's suggesting is a legal loophole. I don't think it's directly illegal, cause it's a commission-on-a-commission kind of construction. He's being a businessman. You can only rly debate the ethicality of the practice itself. His comments on Hodgson were done in private and were nuanced. He said Hodgson was maybe a little indecisive which could cause some anxiety with the players. And that's Allardyce's right to have an opinion. He'd never say this publically. The fact that this private conversation was exposed and sensationalized for the world to hear is scummy. Chach and holystove 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted September 27, 2016 Report Share Posted September 27, 2016 I very much doubt anything will be done to Dyke. we thought the same for Blatter and Platini, but they're getting a headache now. I guess we'll have to wait and see Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted September 27, 2016 Report Share Posted September 27, 2016 we thought the same for Blatter and Platini, but they're getting a headache now. I guess we'll have to wait and see I doubt Dyke has even done anything wrong tbh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted September 27, 2016 Report Share Posted September 27, 2016 I doubt Dyke has even done anything wrong tbh.theres something about him that I've never trusted. Even if he hasn't done anything directly, is he not still responsible for those who are corrupt under his watch? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted September 27, 2016 Report Share Posted September 27, 2016 theres something about him that I've never trusted. Even if he hasn't done anything directly, is he not still responsible for those who are corrupt under his watch? Who are these corrupt people? I haven't read into the whole saga if I'm honest (I don't care enough), so I don't know if Allardyce has said the way to get round the rules is to pay off FA officals or whether it was done in another way. If it's the former, then yes, if it's not then I don't really see how the FA are corrupt (in this case). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marcopaulo Posted September 27, 2016 Report Share Posted September 27, 2016 Offered his resignation apparently Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted September 27, 2016 Report Share Posted September 27, 2016 Offered his resignation apparently http://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2016/09/27/sam-allardyce-loses-job-as-england-manager-after-telegraph-inves/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted September 27, 2016 Report Share Posted September 27, 2016 Can't stop laughing . Moyes better be looking over his shoulder. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted September 27, 2016 Report Share Posted September 27, 2016 Stupid sod but I really hate this entrapment tactic by the press; and I thought it was a tabloid tactic? Expect better of the broadsheets. Chach and holystove 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted September 27, 2016 Report Share Posted September 27, 2016 Can't stop laughing . Moyes better be looking over his shoulder. They'll probably just swap; Moyes for England! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markjazzbassist Posted September 27, 2016 Report Share Posted September 27, 2016 I was just going to ask do you think any clubs will take a punt on him. Decent manager for lower table Premier or Championship side, but is he tainted? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted September 27, 2016 Report Share Posted September 27, 2016 I was just going to ask do you think any clubs will take a punt on him. Decent manager for lower table Premier or Championship side, but is he tainted? Oh for sure he'll get another job, no doubt about that. Pardew, Southgate and Bruce favourites to take over, God help us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted September 27, 2016 Report Share Posted September 27, 2016 Confirmed on the beeb.. http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/37483344 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badaids Posted September 27, 2016 Author Report Share Posted September 27, 2016 I feel a bit sorry that he's had to fall on his sword, but he's been really foolish here and shown a monumental lack of judgement and greed. He's essentially met a load of businessmen that he hardly knew, except for the fact that they were dodgy and although he hasn't committed as far as we know anything wrong with regards to the footage, he has committed indiscretions and discussed shady topics that he shouldn't have. It doesn't matter that he said 'I'll have to discuss it with the FA'. It's like the head of HMRC meeting a load of dodgy bankers and giving them tips on how to evade tax, talking about other tax deals, and tax experts. The following 'so whats' come out of it: What else was in the footage that hasn't come out yet? Or wasn't recorded? What has Allardyce done in the past, that hasn't come out yet? I've always thought he looked dodgy. Given the indiscretions with strangers that he has shown about Roy et al, how can he expect any of his players, staff or FA bigwigs to trust him or come to him with an issue? Was this the thin end of the wedge - what other grubby deals would Allardyce have got up to. Feel sorry for Sam, but he's been a complete tit here and it looks like he will pay the price. Ironically the other likely options: Bruce, Pardew and Redknapp are all dodgy as fuck too! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted September 27, 2016 Report Share Posted September 27, 2016 Title updated.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markjazzbassist Posted September 27, 2016 Report Share Posted September 27, 2016 might be time to hire a foreigner then Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted September 27, 2016 Report Share Posted September 27, 2016 Greedy bastard. disgusting that he has done that. No sympathy at all. MikeO 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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