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The issue isn’t that he wanted to leave or better his career the issue is what happened in the process of him eventually leaving, having read your post you give valid reasons for him wanting to go which most would accept but you don’t mention what happened when all the formalities had been agreed  between him and both clubs and he went to Chelsea to have is medical and complete the signing. You can say he didn’t want to go there as an injured player but what difference that makes I do not know, he still gets the dream move he wanted and doesn’t take the risk that they buy someone else, and he can do his rehabilitation with his new club and immerse himself in his club. Anyway besides all that and you believing he didn’t want to sign with an injury, then why would you go to the club on the day of medical and to complete the signing. It doesn’t take a lot of working out as to what happened that day even using your lenses it’s pretty clear to see Chelsea saw a clear way of saving twenty million and not having to pay for his wages or rehabilitation, and with possibly a little more money he has agreed to that scenario. Now that might not be perfectly correct but it’s a damn lot closer to being the truth than he decided 30 minutes or before completion of the deal that he didn’t want to sign because he was injured, come on Chach really if you would have said at the last minute his mum and dad rang him as Evertonian’s  pleading with him not leave, I may thought hmm is that a possibility then dismissed it as I dismiss that at the last minute he decided not to sign because he was injured. 

Carn't believe a twat like Barkley, is mentioned with such icons who all gave their best years to the blues, and were all winners.

Carn't believe a twat like Barkley, is mentioned with such icons who all gave their best years to the blues, and were all winners.

Carn't believe a twat like Barkley, is mentioned with such icons who all gave their best years to the blues, and were all winners.

A bit of a loss with some of the comments on here, this lad shit on us from a great hight, after we had nurtured him from a hopeful kid, into a premier player. Showed no gratitude whatsoever, and people want him back.
I would sooner finish 10 to 15 in the league, than 8th with him in the side, we are EFC not some pub team, when people treat us as bad as he did, he only deserves contempt.

If you bang your head on a wall you will get a headache, do it again the next day, same result.
We have been doing this for 10 years, and low and behold same results.
I for one want to break that mould, we have an experienced boss, not my first choice, but he knows what Hes doing.
Give him a couple of years, let him get his squad together, then judge him, stop the same old same old.

If you bang your head on a wall you will get a headache, do it again the next day, same result.
We have been doing this for 10 years, and low and behold same results.
I for one want to break that mould, we have an experienced boss, not my first choice, but he knows what Hes doing.
Give him a couple of years, let him get his squad together, then judge him, stop the same old same old.

If you bang your head on a wall you will get a headache, do it again the next day, same result.
We have been doing this for 10 years, and low and behold same results.
I for one want to break that mould, we have an experienced boss, not my first choice, but he knows what Hes doing.
Give him a couple of years, let him get his squad together, then judge him, stop the same old same old.

If you bang your head on a wall you will get a headache, do it again the next day, same result.
We have been doing this for 10 years, and low and behold same results.
I for one want to break that mould, we have an experienced boss, not my first choice, but he knows what Hes doing.
Give him a couple of years, let him get his squad together, then judge him, stop the same old same old.

If you bang your head on a wall you will get a headache, do it again the next day, same result.
We have been doing this for 10 years, and low and behold same results.
I for one want to break that mould, we have an experienced boss, not my first choice, but he knows what Hes doing.
Give him a couple of years, let him get his squad together, then judge him, stop the same old same old.

I don’t know why such concerns about him going he’s been terrible for about 2 years, and now he thinks he can dictate team tactics. From what I’ve read in the past most of the team have been praising Benitez, for his training techniques tactics and knowledge, bar Digne who’s obviously forgot how shit he was before Benitez turned up and has carried that same shit form on since his arrival. If we can get some money for him let’s cash in his course has run here time to move him on. 

Mystic Zoo at your service 
Unbelievable night, Goodison absolutely rocking and a real Dogs of War performance. Backs to the corner and we absolutely wiped the floor with Arsenal, take away two extremely marginal offsides and it's a 4-1 win. 
Can't really think too much about the performance - ears ringing, throat sore. Demarai Grayyyyyy Ole Oleeeeeeeeeee

What a shame it wasn't 95 years since we won something, no problem then. 

Didn't this bunch of clowns on the board give him a new contract a few months ago, because they were afraid, he might leave. Only at EFC.

Didn't this bunch of clowns on the board give him a new contract a few months ago, because they were afraid, he might leave. Only at EFC.

Burnly, Newcastle, Norwich, are all much worse than us. We showed at the beginning of the season that we can play winning football.
At the start of the season with a full squad we were playing well, our biggest problems are we lack a goal threat because DCL is injured and Rondon is shit. Coleman has fallen off a cliff, Godfrey is only now getting back ro fitness and have not been able to play Alan and Doucoure together in midfield enough.
Benitez did not get Carlo to leave, nor did he get us the squad we have at the moment. Most of the  faults lie with the board, and Brands. Yes his appoinment was decisive and I wanted Potter, but sacking him now will not solve the underlying problems we have. If we sack Benitez who will we get to replace him, and what does his sacking say about us as a club? To me it says that we give managers no time, that we lutch from crisis to crisis with no stability.
Benitez is a very good coach, but he can only do so much when missing key parts of the squad. Fans are now asking how we can spend 500 million pounds and end up with Rondon up front, and that is rightly making us very angry. Although I like alot of what Brands has done failing to have a cover right back, striker and central midfielder is not forgivable and he must go.
We have to sort this mess out, the board must be decisive, show strength, and unity. 
 

I hear what people say about injuries, and full squads, but this was Brentford, championship team, Watford no wins put five past us at Goodison, this is a lot more than a few players missing. Displays have been dire; you don't need to be a top player to work hard.

Don't normally post straight after the match, but if people think that was more effort than recent games then its worse than i thought.
Once again, no spirit, no tactics, no effort, no bottle, no pride, we have not moved on in the last 5 to 10 years.
Decisions taken at the top have been dire, in choice of manager and player recruitment, we have spent a lot of money on very average players, who we never get anything for when we get rid. The money put in by the new owner has been a curse rather than a cure, it gave us false hope and expectations.
All this talk of new stadium, new training ground, player recruitment manager the best in Europe, just takes the focus away from the real problems on the pitch.
Watching to days game was hard, Pickford has gone back to his panicking ways, poor with his feet, poor judgement of his area, bur he was not alone, Kean could have given away 2 pens, Digne has been poor for a long time, Delph summed up the attitude today on the 2nd goal, ran towards the ball and stopped in front of him, no body on line, no blocking the shot, Coleman should have been replaced 2 years ago, Iwobi what does he do, that is EFC now and the 5 years at least.
I know city are a much better side than us, and we would have lost with all our players available, but there are ways to lose, and we are a long way from that.

A bit of a loss with some of the comments on here, this lad shit on us from a great hight, after we had nurtured him from a hopeful kid, into a premier player. Showed no gratitude whatsoever, and people want him back.
I would sooner finish 10 to 15 in the league, than 8th with him in the side, we are EFC not some pub team, when people treat us as bad as he did, he only deserves contempt.

A bit of a loss with some of the comments on here, this lad shit on us from a great hight, after we had nurtured him from a hopeful kid, into a premier player. Showed no gratitude whatsoever, and people want him back.
I would sooner finish 10 to 15 in the league, than 8th with him in the side, we are EFC not some pub team, when people treat us as bad as he did, he only deserves contempt.

Get the (a)laddin then!

Thanks Rom

Its going to take time for this to sink in, i mean Watford whipping boys of the prem, if this was city, or Chelsea or even the shite, you have to swallow it, but Watford come on. We kept quiet last year because it was Carlo, we keep quiet no longer even for Raffa, that was unacceptable, and he needs to know how unacceptable it was, no easy gloss over.
Having said that he still has my vote, but he's not above criticism, and has to take full responsibility for it. no excuse with how many players we had missing, this was Watford.

Raffa has done a good job so far, but leaving Iwobi on for 80 mins is mind blowing, i would sooner have seen dobbin on for Rondon, and anyone for Iwobi all second half, nothing to loose and a lot to gain for the youngsters.

Raffa has done a good job so far, but leaving Iwobi on for 80 mins is mind blowing, i would sooner have seen dobbin on for Rondon, and anyone for Iwobi all second half, nothing to loose and a lot to gain for the youngsters.