Newty82

21 minutes ago, Palfy said:

There’s not much to add to what’s already been said really, if we don’t start converting our chances then we go down it’s quite as simple as that really. 
Our next game we need to change the formation to try and change the outcome, we can’t change the players we are stuck with what we have, irrespective of whether we think there good enough or not we’re stuck with them. 
Instead of going out with the same formation every game, let’s try something different like a 442 or a 352, Dyche’s got 3 weeks to work with the players on different formations, I hope he takes the opportunity to do it. 

It'll be the same players playing whatever the system. The same players who aren't/can't convert the chances.

It's a proper dilemma really.

Christ. Could have been a 3rd penalty. Phew.

Ah well. Another one down.

Lack of belief really taking its toll now.

We need that horrible scruffy win from somewhere.

Oooooh fuckin hell. Close.

Maybe that'll give them a wee pick up...

All pace and belief has gone.

Can't see how we get anything out of this now if we can't pick up the pace again.

Need these changes.

C'mon boys.

2 minutes ago, badaids said:

Well I only saw the last 8 mins of the half but that was embarrassing.

Don't judge it by 8 mins and the score. We've been the better team.

Unfortunately, today is the day the usually solid defence have chosen to have their overdue mare!

2nd Half Tactics:

Hurt Garnacho. He literally is their only threat.

Go for it...could we bring DCL on? Who for? Without exposing ourselves too much.

Too frustrating. United are there to be taken. We simply don't have that little extra nudge of quality to finish these games when needed.

What's happened to Garners corners? They're fuckin woeful.

It's horrible to be 2 down through such shite circumstances knowing you struggle to score even 1 goal.

Last week I was bemoaning the fact the attackers need to do more because the day will come when the defenders have a mare...they can't hold the Fort alone.

And here we are....

Fuuuuuuuuck!!!!

At least we're lifting crosses above 6ft! (Mostly!)

Fuckin typical, isn't it?

Great start. Shoot ourselves in the foot.

Fuck sake.

4 hours ago, RuffRob said:

Behind the scenes this club must be a cauldren of stress and anxiety at the moment. It is effectievly rudderless at the very top with lot of very seriouse stuff going on - 3/4 the way thought a new stadium build with massive cheques needing to be signed weekly, point deducutions and appeals going on over the whole season (the results of which could make the difference between us going down and staying up), possible new owners who everybody knows are not without there own risks (we are NOT getting a Middle East consortium with effectively endless resourses), we are effectively searching down the back of the sofa for any spare £1M at this moment in time to try and fund our new stadium and intrest payment that come with it.

This is not a great place to be a manager at the moment - anybody with a ounce sence would steer clear for the next 18months until the dust has well and truly settled. I am pretty sure if Dyche had crystal ball and had known what was likley to be the working conditions at the club when he was offered the job, he may very well have passed and waited for a more normal job to come along, one that was simply about the football on the pitch!! .

If the club paniked and got rid, who of the calibre needed would be queing up to take on the Everton manager roles and be better placed than Dyche to get us over the line in the next 11 games.

I think Dyche has been very supportive of the players who are going on the pitch week in week out. It's obviouse for all to see that players ARE missing chance after chance, he can only say some many time - they have the 'freedom to miss chances'. We all know; players included, they are going to have to start put a few more of them away at sometime. He is far from throwing players under the bus.

I and others are a long way from thinking Dyche is perfect, but he is a fairly good fit for this club at the moment. He is a manager who does not go around crying about the situation the clubs in, he rolls his sleeves up and deals with it, and he is getting players to do the same. There are plenty of things going on at this club where a managers or players could be quite easily thinking "what's the f8cking point' its a circus around this place, I'll probably be better off somewhere else come the summer!!". I don't feel this at all from Dyche and the squad.  

None of us were expecting miracles this season, we all though mid table mediocrity would be plenty acceptable this season given upheaval and resources at the club, just keeping away from a third relegation battle. If we take away the point deductions, then that is pretty much where we are as a footballing side (and maybe this is what Dyche is as a manager). But at this very moment in time I am more than satisfied with mediocrity, I am very weary of trying to change things up on the management side, as another minor slip in this department would see us relegated. Premiership is a very unforgiving league and given o

A time to stick not twist. 

 

Absolutely  

13 hours ago, Palfy said:

Looking at our remaining games this season I think our season could rest on whether we beat Forest at home, with the real chance that we could both be deducted 6 points a piece before the season ends, that in my view would put Luton in the clear and leave us and Forest to battle it out for 17th spot, and one of us will then survive on possibly the lowest points scored to remain in the league. 
And if we can achieve that with a total 12 points deduction for the season, and a paper thin squad, that would be a huge accolade to all involved in the team, and imo it should go down as our miracle season with all that’s been happening in the background just to make things that little bit harder. 

...and The Ginger Bearded One should get PL Manager of the Year.

17 hours ago, RuffRob said:

I think in normal circumstances Dyche might be going through a run of games where questions might start to be rasied about the team and how it's progressing results wise and playing wise under his management. 

However, we are so far removed from normal circumstances as a club could be.  Dyche is working under the most unusual circumstances we could really imagine at a football club. The points you have won being taken off you based on things that went on before your arrival and then with the spectre of even more points being taken away from you hanging over you. You add to this the madness of how the ownership and board situation is at this club, the long standing Chairman passing away. All these signficant things happening off the pitch over 2/3's of a season is quite astounding really.

All this has to negatively affect the players and football management side of the club.

The biggest thing that is really going against Dyche and the wider team at the moment seems to be a bit of luck - Performance wise easily half of our defeats/draws could have quite easily have turned out as wins on a different day. I don't beleive he as lost the players or dressing room at all, in fact they all seem to be working together to try and change the results. 

I imagine he would have loved to have been in the position 10 games ago to try and take on games a little more going in to them as a mid table team. However, he has had the tractor beam of the points deduction that is keeping us (and will do now for the rest of the season) pulled toward the bottom three - that in itself brings a nervouseness to the players and fans alike. 

Everton are at what I feel is a very delecate tipping point at the moment -  Until the points deductions and ownership issues are sorted out, the last thing we should do is be trying to change manager again. Especailly as Dyches main downfall to me has been that he's been very unlucky this season - both on and off the pitch.

If this had been a 'normal' season, just about football - I could quite easily see this team having a two or three more wins under their belt and now being safe on between 35-40 points. 

I would actually like to see Dyche manage in to next season, with hopefully points deduction behind us and a new owner and board in place - to me he has and is showing enough to suggest he deserves a normal season.

Superb.

Rational, Balanced, Fair, Factual.

A rare find on this forum!

49 minutes ago, Matt said:

Shit, I agreed with you again. The end is nigh!

Best to just keep whistling and scroll on by

8 minutes ago, Gwlad said:

He also said that it was up to the players on the pitch to do their bit. Tarky was honest in his interview and looked genuinely fed up that they hadn't killed the game. 

100% yeah. I've no doubt DCL will know its unacceptable for him to be 20 or so games without a goal.

The defenders are doing their part. We've something like the 4th or so best defence in the league.

Problem is, like any position, there'll be games when they're not as on it. If the attackers aren't doing their part, we're fucked.

Scoring has been our achilles heel for a good few years now.

16 minutes ago, Palfy said:

I agree that not converting our chances this season has been our downfall, but equally they way we consistently surrender possession with the worst passing I’ve ever seen from an Everton team in my 57 years of watching them is as equally as bad as our finishing. 
Something has to change we are on a spiral that I don’t know if Dyche can stop, we have already accepted we have no money to spend on players to change it, the January transfer window was proof of that, so let’s say we again manage to stay up by the skin of our teeth again, and come the summer we still haven’t got money for signings, how are we going to try and change the narrative, imo we have no choice but to change the manager because to do nothing is just burying your head in the sand. 

Oh shit yeah, the passing.

It's fuckin woeful. I agree.

We look a shit tonne better when we play with pace with more straight forward balls...on the floor!

When We try to slow it down, play short balls, we do it too slowly and quickly get closed down.

We don't have players with an abundance of skill to get out of tight closed down spaces.

Go back to the first few months of the season...we were playing with pace. It worked and was good to watch.

Fuckin hell.

Didn't expect that.

I said after the last game that these lads need to a confidence boost from somewhere. They've got to take the responsibility on for that themselves too.

Alongside that, Dyche needs to be more ambitious with our play at home. We look so much better when we move quickly and go at it.

If we want to win, bring on the likes of Dobin and Chimitti when we're drawing. Don't wait until we're losing.

I know we have a paper thin squad, but the likes of Dobin will never make an impact without actual minutes...and I only mean in place of players who game after game aren't doing the business.

This is where I understand the frustration with Dyche.

We're 1-1 at home. Keep it as it is rather than go for a win.

2-1 down...now bring on more attacking players to hope for a draw.

Fuck sake.

Harrison...First time you twat!!!

Brill ball from Garner. Harrison, McNeil take note!

Love it Beto! The work ethic deserves it alone.

C'mon!!!