Steve_E Posted August 24, 2012 Report Share Posted August 24, 2012 But this was at two completely different times in the season where we playing in polar opposites. If they were in the same team, playing at the sime time then I would agree with the points the article makes. However, it isnt & therefore very little comparison can be made. I don't think I get your point. By that logic you can't compare players at all because they will never have played for the same team, at the same position, at the same time, against the same opposition. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marcus jones Posted August 24, 2012 Report Share Posted August 24, 2012 Oh I think he is a good player, a step up from Pembrige anyway..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted August 25, 2012 Report Share Posted August 25, 2012 (edited) In short I would take £11.5m plus him for rodwell, at present. Rodwell has greater potential due to his athleticism but I believe he will not become the player he could have been. I seen a quote somewhere "a little more kirkdale and a little less birkdale". I would agree with that with jack. Lacks that little bit of nastiness and bottle. Had jack as a £40m midfielder once, at best I think he will be a £20m midfielder. Will take time and recuperation though. Wish him all the best though. Classy lad. Edited August 25, 2012 by Hafnia Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avinalaff Posted August 25, 2012 Report Share Posted August 25, 2012 Rodwell has shown me very little to suggest he is anything but a standard midfielder that was physical enough to set out early. I don't get the huge valuations that were once touted around. I can only put it down to Everton fans being desperate to have another Rooney figure, and hype being created, that City appear to have bitten on the basis. It struck me as strange that he wasn't a starter here as such, yet started for City. I just hope the fans back off from Barkley and give him the time he needs to develop. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter H Posted August 25, 2012 Report Share Posted August 25, 2012 I think Gibbo has one over Rodwell in every area of the game. At the moment... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marcopaulo Posted August 25, 2012 Report Share Posted August 25, 2012 was excellent again today..don't think it's a coincidence we conceded practically straight after he went off Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SimonButtle Posted August 25, 2012 Report Share Posted August 25, 2012 i thought he looked a bit lost to start with but in the 2nd half he looked solid, i really like him he's a useful player. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dalziel Kane Posted August 25, 2012 Report Share Posted August 25, 2012 Just about managed to see the highights of the game on BBC1 this night, wasn;'t featured too long, second on of all things, and soon as our game was over I turned the fucking show off, was not going to watch another minute of it. Gibson did well for me from what I saw, was dangerous from set pieces, the kid has a good shot on him, although I was initially skeptical about this player when we first brought him in, I certainly wasn't that enthusiastic about this latest acquisition. Something irritated me in a recent publication in that, it states, 'Gibson is now and official True Blue Evertonian after joining in with fans victory song after the recent United win, and was seen joining in with 'Grand Old team' anthem'. I don't know, something just didn't add up. Is that what it takes now to become a 'true blue', to join in with a bit of singing?, is that what Labone, Hickson, Ball and Lawton had to do to become club legends, show off their vocal talents? It just made me a bit angry maybe, but the kid seems to be a good purchase so I'll give him a few more weeks to show what he can put together. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sibdane Posted August 25, 2012 Report Share Posted August 25, 2012 Just about managed to see the highights of the game on BBC1 this night, wasn;'t featured too long, second on of all things, and soon as our game was over I turned the fucking show off, was not going to watch another minute of it. Gibson did well for me from what I saw, was dangerous from set pieces, the kid has a good shot on him, although I was initially skeptical about this player when we first brought him in, I certainly wasn't that enthusiastic about this latest acquisition. Something irritated me in a recent publication in that, it states, 'Gibson is now and official True Blue Evertonian after joining in with fans victory song after the recent United win, and was seen joining in with 'Grand Old team' anthem'. I don't know, something just didn't add up. Is that what it takes now to become a 'true blue', to join in with a bit of singing?, is that what Labone, Hickson, Ball and Lawton had to do to become club legends, show off their vocal talents? It just made me a bit angry maybe, but the kid seems to be a good purchase so I'll give him a few more weeks to show what he can put together. Maybe he's always been a true blue Evertonian... and just didn't know it until he joined the squad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dalziel Kane Posted August 26, 2012 Report Share Posted August 26, 2012 I don't think Gibson had any allegiance to Everton Football Club before the move that's for sure. Wouldn't have known Dixie Dean from Torvil and Dean, it seriously did provoke a reaction when I first read it. Maybe I just get too damn angry over little things, but I was being serious with this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Louis Posted August 26, 2012 Report Share Posted August 26, 2012 I just put it down to him being an Irish man from Derry and the Celtic connection to be honest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dalziel Kane Posted August 26, 2012 Report Share Posted August 26, 2012 The club does have a significant Irish following as I understand, but then so does LFC. I don't think it was any Gaelic over emotions, I think it was most likely an over reaction from myself and an over exaggeration from a newspaper publication. Will leave this now, but something about it raised an issue for me. Gibson getting a bit of a bashing maybe, and I'm not out to berate the kid, but for the last time, 'true blue Evertonian' on the basis of merely joining in with our first team players for singing club songs, I just felt was a bit suspect. That's all it is really. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted August 26, 2012 Report Share Posted August 26, 2012 Something irritated me in a recent publication in that, it states, 'Gibson is now and official True Blue Evertonian after joining in with fans victory song after the recent United win, and was seen joining in with 'Grand Old team' anthem'. I don't know, something just didn't add up. Is that what it takes now to become a 'true blue', to join in with a bit of singing?, is that what Labone, Hickson, Ball and Lawton had to do to become club legends, show off their vocal talents? It just made me a bit angry maybe, but the kid seems to be a good purchase so I'll give him a few more weeks to show what he can put together. I don't think anyone has said he's become a legend because he sang a song.....merely that he's become an Evertonian. Not the same thing at all. Comparisons with the players you mention are ridiculous (though I'm sure he'll appreciate you giving him a few more weeks to prove himself). chicagoblue 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dalziel Kane Posted August 26, 2012 Report Share Posted August 26, 2012 It was in the Sun today, (I don't buy that crap, my wife brought it home), and yes, it doesn't mention 'club legend', but the wording of it just got me a bit irritated for some reason, actually, maybe this is being blown out of all proportion, I read things that I shouldn't, but was something, and I tried to word it best I could, about his joining in with club singing just after a recent transfer got to me a bit. Of course we can't put Gibson in the same category of the other players mentioned, not today, not in the future, not any time. Back in those days, the guys, regardless of club status, did their singing in the team baths, not on the field of play. Just wanted to get something off my chest with this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avinalaff Posted August 26, 2012 Report Share Posted August 26, 2012 Far too much read into his apparant singing. It's a catchy tune. Steve_E, marcopaulo and SimonButtle 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marcopaulo Posted August 26, 2012 Report Share Posted August 26, 2012 sometimes forget he's only 24 too..cos he looks far older than me and i'm 26 next month! think he's gonna be a top player for us for a good few years... as for the singing..cahill had nothing to do with everton before he came here..neither did duncan ferguson..but we all know they're true blues now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EFC-Paul Posted August 26, 2012 Report Share Posted August 26, 2012 sometimes forget he's only 24 too..cos he looks far older than me and i'm 26 next month! think he's gonna be a top player for us for a good few years... as for the singing..cahill had nothing to do with everton before he came here..neither did duncan ferguson..but we all know they're true blues now Totally forgot He's only 24 only 3 years older then Rodwell and plays like a veteran, he's going to become a more vital player for us as time goes on and I'm sure He'll improve... Bargain of the decade in My book! Bailey 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailey Posted August 26, 2012 Report Share Posted August 26, 2012 I don't think I get your point. By that logic you can't compare players at all because they will never have played for the same team, at the same position, at the same time, against the same opposition. Its uncomparable because we were playing contrasting football. It would be like comparing a midfielder at Stoke to a midfielder ar Arsenal because that is how different we were playing. If we had a consistent season then compare away but we had anything but! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve_E Posted August 28, 2012 Report Share Posted August 28, 2012 Its uncomparable because we were playing contrasting football. It would be like comparing a midfielder at Stoke to a midfielder ar Arsenal because that is how different we were playing. If we had a consistent season then compare away but we had anything but! Might there not be a correlation between the players playing for us and the way we play? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mirallas Posted August 28, 2012 Report Share Posted August 28, 2012 Might there not be a correlation between the players playing for us and the way we play? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailey Posted August 28, 2012 Report Share Posted August 28, 2012 Might there not be a correlation between the players playing for us and the way we play? Wouldnt completely disagree but that isnt all down to the difference between Gibson & Rodwell. As I mentioned in an early post, there were many other reasons as to why we started to pass the ball better and press the ball higher (Straq, Jela, Pienaar, Heitinga and even Gueye). Gibson was a part of that, but I imagine that Rodwell would have played in a very similar way and got very similar stats. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tolne Posted August 28, 2012 Report Share Posted August 28, 2012 sometimes forget he's only 24 too..cos he looks far older than me and i'm 26 next month! think he's gonna be a top player for us for a good few years... as for the singing..cahill had nothing to do with everton before he came here..neither did duncan ferguson..but we all know they're true blues now He looks older than Cpt. Phil. Maybe it's Phil's frosted tips. Maybe it's Darron's bald spot. I just can't put a finger on it... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tolne Posted August 28, 2012 Report Share Posted August 28, 2012 Wouldnt completely disagree but that isnt all down to the difference between Gibson & Rodwell. As I mentioned in an early post, there were many other reasons as to why we started to pass the ball better and press the ball higher (Straq, Jela, Pienaar, Heitinga and even Gueye). Gibson was a part of that, but I imagine that Rodwell would have played in a very similar way and got very similar stats. I'm okay with that. It's kind of like putting it like this: Would you rather have a player or would you rather have a slightly older player doing exactly the same thing; nothing more nothing less but you get £12-odd million. I know what my answer would be Bailey 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue4Ever Posted August 28, 2012 Report Share Posted August 28, 2012 I'm okay with that. It's kind of like putting it like this: Would you rather have a player or would you rather have a slightly older player doing exactly the same thing; nothing more nothing less but you get £12-odd million. I know what my answer would be Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailey Posted August 28, 2012 Report Share Posted August 28, 2012 I'm okay with that. It's kind of like putting it like this: Would you rather have a player or would you rather have a slightly older player doing exactly the same thing; nothing more nothing less but you get £12-odd million. I know what my answer would be Mine too. Not doubting the business the club did at all, just questioning the 'statistical analysis' that was made. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SimonButtle Posted August 29, 2012 Report Share Posted August 29, 2012 http://footyscene.com/?p=938 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevO Posted August 30, 2012 Report Share Posted August 30, 2012 Not getting too carried away here, but peoples thought on Gibbo as a future captain? Still only young, quite a talker on the pitch and seems a bit of a leader. Lowensda 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marcopaulo Posted August 30, 2012 Report Share Posted August 30, 2012 decent shout...very experienced already and he seems to have taken to the club very well and the fans have taken to him even though he wasn't all that popular as a signing Matt and Lowensda 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dalziel Kane Posted August 30, 2012 Report Share Posted August 30, 2012 I can't vote on Man of the Match so, for the benefit of this, and I did castigate the kid at the weekend, maybe I read too much into things, but I'll say it now, and don't think Gibson is really suitable as a future Everton captain. Just a name I think automatically, that shouldn't be given such an honor. I like club captains to be quiet and sensible, not too boisterous, go about their business quietly, and as Mr Paulo mentioned above, our supporters maybe didn't think too much of this recent acquisition when he first came along. All said, maybe in time, I could think differently, but as of now, Gibson is just not suitable as a team captain for the immediate future at least or even just beyond that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete0 Posted August 30, 2012 Report Share Posted August 30, 2012 Not getting too carried away here, but peoples thought on Gibbo as a future captain? Still only young, quite a talker on the pitch and seems a bit of a leader. I'd hope Johnny H, Fellaini, and Osman are all considered first. Would be more beneficial to the first two getting them some leeway off the refs. Gibson gets on with his job quietly not a natural leader for me. Atm Hibbo should be in for a shout for the arm band. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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