Bailey Posted April 27, 2021 Report Share Posted April 27, 2021 7 hours ago, pete0 said: Advantage? That's not advantage that's a whole change to the rules. They're tight calls but the attackers should time their runs better. Why punish the defenders for keeping a good line? If you're offside, you're offside. It's a black and white call (assuming VAR use the same parameters of when the ball is deemed to be played). Would you scrap goal line technology as they make the tight calls too? If you give the attackers the advantage as you call it, you might as well scrap the offside rule as defenders will be forced to drop deeper and deeper as they will be scared of the attacker being allowed a run on them. Are you saying those images are clear cut? I'm not saying that attackers can be a yard off side and given the benefit of being an attacker but when its clearly not an obvious error then the benefit should lay with the attacking team, solely on the basis that most people would rather see goals. You can't say that being 1mm offside is good defending, it is pure luck. Arsenal's goal last week was poor from Holgate as he was a yard deeper than the rest of the line. The other option is that you stand with the original decision like they do with umpire calls in cricket. Chalking off goals for What we have now is a farce. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete0 Posted April 27, 2021 Report Share Posted April 27, 2021 11 minutes ago, Bailey said: Are you saying those images are clear cut? I'm not saying that attackers can be a yard off side and given the benefit of being an attacker but when its clearly not an obvious error then the benefit should lay with the attacking team, solely on the basis that most people would rather see goals. You can't say that being 1mm offside is good defending, it is pure luck. Arsenal's goal last week was poor from Holgate as he was a yard deeper than the rest of the line. The other option is that you stand with the original decision like they do with umpire calls in cricket. Chalking off goals for What we have now is a farce. It's not just mm decisions though. How many times have we seen the sly six get away with being miles offside? Much better and fairer now as it takes away some bias. Plus I'd rather see fair goals than more goals. More goals doesn't entertain me, good football does. Rather see a good goal from a good run, than let offside goals count. We've seen similar thought of more goals is more entertaining this season with the soft penalties introduced, but they had the opposite reaction. Fans didn't like it. It's sport, not entertainment. Goal line technology does exactly the same. Would you get rid of that too? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailey Posted April 28, 2021 Report Share Posted April 28, 2021 15 hours ago, pete0 said: It's not just mm decisions though. How many times have we seen the sly six get away with being miles offside? Much better and fairer now as it takes away some bias. Plus I'd rather see fair goals than more goals. More goals doesn't entertain me, good football does. Rather see a good goal from a good run, than let offside goals count. We've seen similar thought of more goals is more entertaining this season with the soft penalties introduced, but they had the opposite reaction. Fans didn't like it. It's sport, not entertainment. Goal line technology does exactly the same. Would you get rid of that too? I am talking about the examples given as being not good for football. You cant tell me they aren't good goals. No-one wants clearly offside goals being allowed, but it needs to be clear. The examples shown are not clear. Goal line technology isn't the same because there is no subjectivity. The parameters are decided and accepted by the league. In offside calls there is subjectivity as to where to draw the line and when the ball leaves the attacker's foot. Where there is subjectivity, a level of tolerance needs to be allowed. Goal line cases happen a handful of times a season and it isn't really a big problem. This offside argument occurs several times in a weekend and is a problem that needs to be addressed. Romey 1878 and MikeO 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete0 Posted April 28, 2021 Report Share Posted April 28, 2021 1 hour ago, Bailey said: I am talking about the examples given as being not good for football. You cant tell me they aren't good goals. No-one wants clearly offside goals being allowed, but it needs to be clear. The examples shown are not clear. Goal line technology isn't the same because there is no subjectivity. The parameters are decided and accepted by the league. In offside calls there is subjectivity as to where to draw the line and when the ball leaves the attacker's foot. Where there is subjectivity, a level of tolerance needs to be allowed. Goal line cases happen a handful of times a season and it isn't really a big problem. This offside argument occurs several times in a weekend and is a problem that needs to be addressed. Who decides if it's not clear? One inch offside mightn't bother you but I'd be pissed off if I'd stepped forward and caught someone. More so when it cost teams points. Do they not use the same parameters each game as that would eliminate the subjectivity. Goal line not working once was the difference between Bournemouth staying up or going down. Now imagine how much wrong offside calls have influenced the league for decades. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markjazzbassist Posted April 28, 2021 Report Share Posted April 28, 2021 Man city lineup tonight looks like an arsene wenger era arsenal “how many creative midfielders can be on the pitch together” lineup. De bruyne, foden, mahrez, Bernardo, gundogen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailey Posted April 28, 2021 Report Share Posted April 28, 2021 7 hours ago, pete0 said: Who decides if it's not clear? One inch offside mightn't bother you but I'd be pissed off if I'd stepped forward and caught someone. More so when it cost teams points. Do they not use the same parameters each game as that would eliminate the subjectivity. Goal line not working once was the difference between Bournemouth staying up or going down. Now imagine how much wrong offside calls have influenced the league for decades. I have explained when it isnt clear (i.e. the subjectivity of drawing the lines). Goals are getting chalked off that aren't clearly offside. How is that not also costing teams points? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete0 Posted April 28, 2021 Report Share Posted April 28, 2021 24 minutes ago, Bailey said: I have explained when it isnt clear (i.e. the subjectivity of drawing the lines). Goals are getting chalked off that aren't clearly offside. How is that not also costing teams points? Doesn't matter if they're not clear decisions. They're right decisions. Is it subjective? Like I said I'm assuming they must use some set parameters, don't they? It's 'costing' points that they shouldn't have. You think it's fair that Bournemouth went down because the goal against Villa wasn't clearly over the line in real time? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markjazzbassist Posted May 7, 2021 Report Share Posted May 7, 2021 Unai Emery is the manager of Villarreal who just beat Arsenal to go to the Europa final. He must have savored that vengeance after arsenal fired him with rumors the players mocked him behind his back. Karma Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted May 7, 2021 Report Share Posted May 7, 2021 Leicester looking so poor tonight, crazy season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dunlopp9987 Posted May 7, 2021 Report Share Posted May 7, 2021 21 minutes ago, MikeO said: Leicester looking so poor tonight, crazy season. 4-0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
c1982 Posted May 7, 2021 Report Share Posted May 7, 2021 Newcastle are a dangerous team when Wilson and St Maximin are fit and firing - shite without them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted May 7, 2021 Report Share Posted May 7, 2021 8 minutes ago, dunlopp9987 said: 4-0 We've had some embarassing home results this season but this tops them all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dunlopp9987 Posted May 7, 2021 Report Share Posted May 7, 2021 6 minutes ago, MikeO said: We've had some embarassing home results this season but this tops them all. Well if it weren't for Dubravka, it would be 4 all or maybe even 5-4 Leicester Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted May 7, 2021 Report Share Posted May 7, 2021 Quality journalism from the BBC as ever. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted May 7, 2021 Report Share Posted May 7, 2021 3 minutes ago, dunlopp9987 said: Well if it weren't for Dubravka, it would be 4 all or maybe even 5-4 Leicester Maybe but teams have a goalkeeper, whose job it is to keep goal (it's on the job description) so saying "if it wasn't (weren't) for" is a bit silly imo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dunlopp9987 Posted May 7, 2021 Report Share Posted May 7, 2021 4 minutes ago, MikeO said: Maybe but teams have a goalkeeper, whose job it is to keep goal (it's on the job description) so saying "if it wasn't (weren't) for" is a bit silly imo. This feels like a personal attack MikeO 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted May 7, 2021 Report Share Posted May 7, 2021 15 minutes ago, dunlopp9987 said: This feels like a personal attack We have a snowflake support area dude if you ever feel defiled, just engage and they'll tell you to fuck off in a very understanding way. TT is all inclusive. dunlopp9987, Matt and Romey 1878 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dunlopp9987 Posted May 7, 2021 Report Share Posted May 7, 2021 32 minutes ago, MikeO said: We have a snowflake support area dude if you ever feel defiled, just engage and they'll tell you to fuck off in a very understanding way. TT is all inclusive. Only time I ever really feel defiled anymore is watching Everton play. Looking at Leicester's loss today, plus their final 3 games (United away, Chelsea away, Spurs home) and an FA Cup final thrown in there....and Chelsea's final 4 games (City away, Arsenal home, Leicester home, Villa away) and two cup finals thrown in there.... West Ham are gonna pip 4th. They've got 4 winnable games left (Brighton, West Brom, Soton, and the most winnable, us) and no cups to worry about. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted May 7, 2021 Report Share Posted May 7, 2021 1 hour ago, MikeO said: We have a snowflake support area dude if you ever feel defiled, just engage and they'll tell you to fuck off in a very understanding way. TT is all inclusive. I’m chief fuck off teller. MikeO 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted May 8, 2021 Report Share Posted May 8, 2021 BBC journo on form again today.. "Here's the situation after that defeat for Rotherham." Rotherham drew."The Rams have lost their past six games. Can they close out victory?" Derby were drawing at the time (and kept it that way to the end to avoid relegation). Zoo 2.0 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sibdane Posted May 8, 2021 Report Share Posted May 8, 2021 Big result for us with Spurs losing against. We really need all three points against West Ham to keep our top 7 hopes alive. We have two games in hand on Spurs, and we're only four points behind. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted May 8, 2021 Report Share Posted May 8, 2021 Oh dear me Sergio, that's why I hate Panenkas (Stones against Juventus aside, shoot out in a pre-season friendly is acceptable); you look like such a clown when the 'keeper just catches it. Stupid, the only motivation for doing it is to try and look clever and nobody likes a smartarse. Romey 1878 and pete0 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted May 8, 2021 Report Share Posted May 8, 2021 Just now, MikeO said: Oh dear me Sergio, that's why I hate Panenkas (Stones against Juventus aside, shoot out in a pre-season friendly is acceptable); you look like such a clown when the 'keeper just catches it. Stupid, the only motivation for doing it is to try and look clever and nobody likes a smartarse. I always want them to miss when they try something like that. pete0 and MikeO 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted May 9, 2021 Report Share Posted May 9, 2021 Troy Deeney saying Bournemouth have "come into form at the right time" for the play-offs; they lost their last three games of the season without scoring a goal. Bailey and Zoo 2.0 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markjazzbassist Posted May 9, 2021 Report Share Posted May 9, 2021 46 minutes ago, MikeO said: Troy Deeney saying Bournemouth have "come into form at the right time" for the play-offs; they lost their last three games of the season without scoring a goal. they need a new segment where the analysts say stuff and then they go to "fact checker mike" and you destroy their BS "analysis". its laughable what they say on air. MikeO 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted May 9, 2021 Report Share Posted May 9, 2021 5 minutes ago, markjazzbassist said: they need a new segment where the analysts say stuff and then they go to "fact checker mike" and you destroy their BS "analysis". its laughable what they say on air. Could also mention that he said Dom had two looks at the 'keeper's position before he scored, he had one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post MikeO Posted May 9, 2021 Popular Post Report Share Posted May 9, 2021 Allardyce relegated, very pleased that record has been put to bed. Romey 1878, Bailey, Matt and 3 others 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted May 9, 2021 Report Share Posted May 9, 2021 1 hour ago, MikeO said: Allardyce relegated, very pleased that record has been put to bed. Allardyce, "It is not as painful for me as it is for the club or players. It is painful, I wanted it for the club and players more than me, but it hasn't happened." Why? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted May 9, 2021 Report Share Posted May 9, 2021 17 minutes ago, MikeO said: Allardyce, "It is not as painful for me as it is for the club or players. It is painful, I wanted it for the club and players more than me, but it hasn't happened." Why? Because he's a gobshite. Bailey 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted May 9, 2021 Report Share Posted May 9, 2021 4 minutes ago, Romey 1878 said: Because he's a gobshite. He's immediately dissocociating himself from what's happened to the club; nothing to do with him, it was them. Knob. Romey 1878, Btay and Bailey 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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