MikeO Posted October 17, 2012 Report Share Posted October 17, 2012 Does anyone know if The Netherlands played last night and what was the score. Mr Google probably knows. Ashley Cole pretty poor first half...Jags has been one of our better players. Didn't realise Gerrard was on the pitch until twenty minutes in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fearthainn Posted October 17, 2012 Report Share Posted October 17, 2012 Does anyone know if The Netherlands played last night and what was the score. Won 4-1 in Romania. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted October 17, 2012 Report Share Posted October 17, 2012 Jags the best England player today according to this... http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/england/9616076/Poland-v-England-player-ratings.html ...and... Ashley Cole 5 Supposedly the world’s finest left-back but there is a question now over whether he is the best in England. Given repeated difficulty on his 99th cap by Grosicki and Piszczek and struggled to provide usual attacking width. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avinalaff Posted October 17, 2012 Report Share Posted October 17, 2012 I wasn't surprised to see the England manager bottle it and play Cole etc, but Baines plays for Everton, and has played along side both Center backs as part of his professional job for his club. Add to that he could have had an argument for motm last time out, and is one of the in form Prem players, it was a sign that Hodgson isn't quite what I was hoping for as England manager. Same old same old. Romey 1878, Bailey and pete0 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoodisonRoad Posted October 17, 2012 Report Share Posted October 17, 2012 How the hell Cleverly plays for England is beyond me, and milner barely plays for city yet he seems to be first on the team sheet for Hodgson! The midfield today was non existent and left the defence far too exposed, i think Jags did okay, but i thought Lescott was the best of a bad bunch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lowensda Posted October 18, 2012 Report Share Posted October 18, 2012 James Milner Steven Gerrard Michael Carrick Tom Cleverley Does that Midfield 4, not set people's hearts racing? This is the 'best' we can offer. Lets compare starting midfield set ups from the last qualifiers; Italy- Andrea Pirlo Claudio Marchisio Daniele De Rossi Riccardo Montolivo Spain- Andrés Iniesta Xavi Sergio Busquets Francesc Fábregas Xabi Alonso France- Blaise Matuidi, Maxime Gonalons Jérémy Menez Franck Ribéry, Yohan Cabaye Portugal- Nani Miguel Veloso Ruben Micael João Moutinho Cristiano Ronaldo Belgium- Mousa Dembélé Dries Mertens Nacer Chadli, Kevin De Bruyne, Axel Witsel Germany- Marco Reus Thomas Müller Toni Kroos Bastian Schweinsteiger Mesut Özil In short we have NO creativity or flair players. I understand that Hodgson likes his posession football and 'hard to break down' set-ups, but its never going to take us forward. Dropping the likes of the Ox (for example) was a poor move, he bleeds unpredictability and is ideal to play against someone like Poland (good team, not the best of the rest). We're boring and predictable. It needs to change. Romey 1878 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete0 Posted October 18, 2012 Report Share Posted October 18, 2012 I think a 433 would give England it's most potent attack given a fully fit selection. Players to be considered if their in good form, Clyne, Cahill, Wilshire/Collison/Milner/Watson, Zaha/Dyer/Lennon/Kightly/Walcott/AOC, Carroll. (what ever keeper is in form) Walker Cahill Lescott Baines Milner* Noble Osman Johnson Rooney Sturridge *to cover Walker More sensible Jenkinson Jags/Cahill Lescott Baines Dyer Noble/Milner Osman Johnson Rooney Sturridge (or Carroll depending on the opposition, if so Downing as well). Players like Lampard, Gerrard, Glenn Johnson, Huddlestone, Henderson, Rose, Livermore, Shelvey, Welbeck, Cole, and Carrick shouldn't be in consideration as non of them will be good enough in 2 tears time. Osman should be getting caps now for in two years time, so he will have international experience. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
c1982 Posted October 18, 2012 Report Share Posted October 18, 2012 Collison already plays for Wales. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete0 Posted October 18, 2012 Report Share Posted October 18, 2012 Collison already plays for Wales. He's been at Westham most his life, he's stupid for copping out and taking the easy route. Looked a very good player before his injuries. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marcopaulo Posted October 18, 2012 Report Share Posted October 18, 2012 he chose to play for wales cos of his ancestry..nothing wrong with that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete0 Posted October 18, 2012 Report Share Posted October 18, 2012 he chose to play for wales cos of his ancestry..nothing wrong with that Born and raised in England, also with that accent and hair cut it's hard to say he's anything other than a southerner. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailey Posted October 18, 2012 Report Share Posted October 18, 2012 James Milner Steven Gerrard Michael Carrick Tom Cleverley Does that Midfield 4, not set people's hearts racing? This is the 'best' we can offer. Lets compare starting midfield set ups from the last qualifiers; Its probably one of the worst midfields we have ever fielded tbh. Milner is a workhorse, doesnt offer much in attack and does a job defensively, but still gets found out in that area against good teams/players. Gerrard is a shadow of the player he used to be. His reputation is what keeps getting him picked. Carrick is just a pointless selection. Again he doesnt add much to the attack and isnt a very good defensive midfielder either. Cleverley could be a decent player as he makes a lot of good runs and gets into good positions, but generally his final ball is poor. I completely agree about Chamberlain, he is something different and while he might be frustrating at times he has the ability to do things those mentioned above cant seem to. Plus he links up pretty well with Baines. Problem is bar Chamberlain, who else do you play? Lampard falls into the Gerrard category, Barry is the same as Carrick. Lennon, Sinclair and Walcott are all headless chickens (although at least Walcott is a very good finisher). I suppose Adam Johnson could bring something a little different but Im not sure how well he is doing at Sunderland. I guess Moses has officially declared himself Nigerian? We do have Wilshere to come back and he could make a big difference although if you looked at playing Cleverley and Wilshere together then you would need a holding player and a 5 man midfield. In fact if you look throughout the squad, we really dont have many 'world class' players. Hart, Rooney and potentially Wilshere & Chamberlain. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marcopaulo Posted October 18, 2012 Report Share Posted October 18, 2012 Born and raised in England, also with that accent and hair cut it's hard to say he's anything other than a southerner. yeah i know he was but he chose it cos of his mother's side of the family..that's up to him..he's shite anyway Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dalziel Kane Posted October 18, 2012 Report Share Posted October 18, 2012 I didn't even know the initial game had been postponed or called off until the day after. Then I didn't realize the arranged date was the day after that until early the next day, although not all that interested. What I don't understand is, if they had a retractable roof and rain was forecast, why didn't they utilize the damn thing before time and preserve the field and maybe the game could have gone ahead as planned. But the bottom line is, the most important thing is getting back to domestics at the weekend. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete0 Posted October 19, 2012 Report Share Posted October 19, 2012 A spectator has just ran on the pitch and pushed Kirkland in the face, disgusting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted October 19, 2012 Report Share Posted October 19, 2012 Ex Blue Peter presenter and Peter Beagrie are the experts? I despair, Disgrace Warnock saying Kirkland "...went down like a ton of bricks." He'll regret that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
c1982 Posted October 19, 2012 Report Share Posted October 19, 2012 Fair play to sky sports for zooming in on the dickhead who assaulted Kirkland - he'll hopefully be made an example of! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted October 19, 2012 Report Share Posted October 19, 2012 Fair play to sky sports for zooming in on the dickhead who assaulted Kirkland - he'll hopefully be made an example of! The people who congratulated him should be banned long term also. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dalziel Kane Posted October 19, 2012 Report Share Posted October 19, 2012 What, there's a game tonight ? What's going on. There can't be another one surely. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete0 Posted October 20, 2012 Report Share Posted October 20, 2012 Hard to see anything other than a Chelsea win int he first match of the day, as the Spurs midfield Huddlestone, Sigurdsson, and Dempsey have not played together. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fearthainn Posted October 20, 2012 Report Share Posted October 20, 2012 Spurs have been flying in the second half. Hoping AVB can get one over Chelsea. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fearthainn Posted October 20, 2012 Report Share Posted October 20, 2012 FFS jinxed it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted October 20, 2012 Report Share Posted October 20, 2012 FFS jinxed it. Good....Spurs dropping points is better for us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted October 20, 2012 Report Share Posted October 20, 2012 Better still . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fearthainn Posted October 20, 2012 Report Share Posted October 20, 2012 2-3 now Yeah I guess you're right Mike. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete0 Posted October 20, 2012 Report Share Posted October 20, 2012 Easy, Easy Easy! 4 goals and Torres not involved in any ffs. I want fantasy points Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fearthainn Posted October 20, 2012 Report Share Posted October 20, 2012 You only have yourself to blame for including him in your team in the first place. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete0 Posted October 20, 2012 Report Share Posted October 20, 2012 You only have yourself to blame for including him in your team in the first place. He's ranked 4th in the points and I expected Chelsea to thrash Spurs. No reason not to have him in the team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fearthainn Posted October 20, 2012 Report Share Posted October 20, 2012 Former RS player pete0 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete0 Posted October 20, 2012 Report Share Posted October 20, 2012 Former RS player That adds to the pleasure, as every time he scores it pisses them off Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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