Fearthainn Posted August 10, 2013 Report Share Posted August 10, 2013 Yes, Martinez seemed to like it at Wigan, too early to tell if he's going to have us playing in that formation regularly though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cornish Steve Posted August 10, 2013 Report Share Posted August 10, 2013 I agree that he'd get plenty of playing time. RM is not one to play the same team week in and week out, plus he has an excellent track record of making tactical substitutions. pete0 and Fearthainn 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted August 10, 2013 Report Share Posted August 10, 2013 We could get £3m+ for heitinga, offset that against a £7m player on less wages... I'm in Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lowensda Posted August 11, 2013 Report Share Posted August 11, 2013 It's not gonna happen. He'll go somewhere like Norwich...how a player like Medel can go to f*cking Cardiff, I have no idea. Some shit teams are buying top talent...we on the other hand, seriously lacking on the "improve the first team" front. Romey 1878 and SimonButtle 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve_E Posted August 11, 2013 Author Report Share Posted August 11, 2013 It's not gonna happen. He'll go somewhere like Norwich...how a player like Medel can go to f*cking Cardiff, I have no idea. Some shit teams are buying top talent...we on the other hand, seriously lacking on the "improve the first team" front. He's already turned Norwich down after they agreed a £6.8m fee with Ajax. He's turned down Russian clubs in the past as well, so maybe he will again. If only someone would pay up for Heitinga before all our targets are gone. I wouldn't mind Hector Moreno, who we've recently been linked with, either though, plus he's left-footed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SimonButtle Posted August 11, 2013 Report Share Posted August 11, 2013 Off to Spurs according to some reports this morning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted August 11, 2013 Report Share Posted August 11, 2013 It's not gonna happen. He'll go somewhere like Norwich...how a player like Medel can go to f*cking Cardiff, I have no idea. Some shit teams are buying top talent...we on the other hand, seriously lacking on the "improve the first team" front. He cost them £11million. Cardiff spent £11million on one player... after spending £8million on another player . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SimonButtle Posted August 11, 2013 Report Share Posted August 11, 2013 (edited) He cost them £11million. Cardiff spent £11million on one player... after spending £8million on another player . I know sad ain't it mate. I have a feeling there will be a few shouts of "where's the money gone" at Kenwright this afternoon, im interested to see what the reaction is towards him. Edited August 11, 2013 by Simon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted August 11, 2013 Report Share Posted August 11, 2013 http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2389243/Ajax-confirm-bid-5m-Everton-target-Toby-Alderweireld.html?ITO=1490&ns_mchannel=rss&ns_campaign=1490 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted August 11, 2013 Report Share Posted August 11, 2013 (edited) http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2389243/Ajax-confirm-bid-5m-Everton-target-Toby-Alderweireld.html?ITO=1490&ns_mchannel=rss&ns_campaign=1490 I want him here! Edited August 11, 2013 by Romey 1878 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted August 11, 2013 Report Share Posted August 11, 2013 Overmars says "We won't give any names as we are still in talks." Der Telegraf reports that the unnamed bidders are Spartak Moscow. Which leads the Mail to the headline.... Ajax confirm Everton bid for £5m defender Alderweireld. :dont know: Matt, Romey 1878, Steve_E and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter H Posted August 11, 2013 Report Share Posted August 11, 2013 (edited) Headline states Everton bid, later in the text they believe it to be Spartak Moscow who put the bid in. So which is it? Have we made a bid for him? Edited August 11, 2013 by Peter H Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter H Posted August 11, 2013 Report Share Posted August 11, 2013 Overmars says "We won't give any names as we are still in talks." Der Telegraf reports that the unnamed bidders are Spartak Moscow. Which leads the Mail to the headline.... Ajax confirm Everton bid for £5m defender Alderweireld. :dont know: You got there first Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted August 11, 2013 Report Share Posted August 11, 2013 You got there first It's the Fail....2+2=46 . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve_E Posted August 11, 2013 Author Report Share Posted August 11, 2013 (edited) Everton isn't even mentioned in Dutch reports at the moment. According to Russian source Tvoi Den, Spartak will offer Alderweireld a 4 year/€12m contract. No way he's turning that down if that's true. Obviously I have no clue whether or not Tvoi Den is a reliable source. Also, I don't know why the Mail think he's rated at £5m as it's pretty open that they agreed a fee with Norwich for £6.8m earlier, I don't think they'll accept less now. Edited August 11, 2013 by Steve_E Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted August 11, 2013 Report Share Posted August 11, 2013 Everton isn't even mentioned in Dutch reports at the moment. According to Russian source Tvoi Den, Spartak will offer Alderweireld a 4 year/€12m contract. No way he's turning that down if that's true. Obviously I have no clue whether or not Tvoi Den is a reliable source. Also, I don't know why the Mail think he's rated at £5m as it's pretty open that they agreed a fee with Norwich for £6.8m earlier, I don't think they'll accept less now. thought he came out saying Russia doesn't interest him? Agree with the price though, another example of the daily fail living up to its alias... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve_E Posted August 11, 2013 Author Report Share Posted August 11, 2013 thought he came out saying Russia doesn't interest him? Agree with the price though, another example of the daily fail living up to its alias... He hasn't said anything about a potential move to Russia so far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted August 11, 2013 Report Share Posted August 11, 2013 He hasn't said anything about a potential move to Russia so far. http://talksport.com/sports-news/football/premier-league/transfer-rumours/130731/russian-clubs-after-liverpool-targets-202752 several other sources reporting the same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve_E Posted August 11, 2013 Author Report Share Posted August 11, 2013 http://talksport.com/sports-news/football/premier-league/transfer-rumours/130731/russian-clubs-after-liverpool-targets-202752 several other sources reporting the same. That's about him supposedly rejecting moves to other Russian clubs in the past. Not about him turning down Spartak now. I see English media are now also reporting about Tottenham interest. But I'm pretty confident the actual offer was from Spartak. De Telegraaf is very reliable for Ajax news and Aras Ozbiliz, a former Ajax youngster who has joined Spartak this summer from Kuban Krasnodar, has also talked in the media urging Alderweireld to join Spartak. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted August 11, 2013 Report Share Posted August 11, 2013 That's about him supposedly rejecting moves to other Russian clubs in the past. Not about him turning down Spartak now. I see English media are now also reporting about Tottenham interest. But I'm pretty confident the actual offer was from Spartak. De Telegraaf is very reliable for Ajax news and Aras Ozbiliz, a former Ajax youngster who has joined Spartak this summer from Kuban Krasnodar, has also talked in the media urging Alderweireld to join Spartak. i'll trust ya I'm sure I read he said he wasn't interested in going to Russia but I guess that could've been another media "fact" SimonButtle 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcirony Posted August 11, 2013 Report Share Posted August 11, 2013 He cost them £11million. Cardiff spent £11million on one player... after spending £8million on another player . Yep and add to that 7.5 million for Cornelius. Close to 30 million spent by Cardiff. It's certainly a statement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 11, 2013 Report Share Posted August 11, 2013 Ajax have confirmed a bid but wont name who from. Spurs need centre halves so can see them getting him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 11, 2013 Report Share Posted August 11, 2013 Yep and add to that 7.5 million for Cornelius. Close to 30 million spent by Cardiff. It's certainly a statement. Wouldn't have minded Caulker here. Big and strong centre half and only 21/22 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted August 11, 2013 Report Share Posted August 11, 2013 Yep and add to that 7.5 million for Cornelius. Close to 30 million spent by Cardiff. It's certainly a statement. how much did QPR spend? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcirony Posted August 11, 2013 Report Share Posted August 11, 2013 (edited) how much did QPR spend?Hmm I think QPR was an exceptional case, they brought in something like 15 new players. Oh and they had Mark Hughes as manager! Edited August 11, 2013 by MatthewT Matt 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted August 11, 2013 Report Share Posted August 11, 2013 Hmm I think QPR was an exceptional case, they brought in something like 15 new players. Oh and they had Mark Hughes as manager! true. Ok, Sunderland as another example of a team that spent loads and achieved nothing... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted August 11, 2013 Report Share Posted August 11, 2013 true. Ok, Sunderland as another example of a team that spent loads and achieved nothing... My point wasn't really about them achieving anything, or even that I'd want the players they've bought. More that it's sickening that a newly promoted side can spend those sorts of amounts on players while we, an established top 8 club, have to be careful when spending as little as £5million on a player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EFC-Paul Posted August 11, 2013 Report Share Posted August 11, 2013 It is a sad state of affairs but that's what happens when "some" clubs have a good buisness model and a wealthy owner. I'd like to have this lad here but as with most if not all names we get linked with it won't happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
c1982 Posted August 11, 2013 Report Share Posted August 11, 2013 A lot has got to do with annual wage expenditure and of course the initial boost of £££ as a team comes into the EPL. Cardiff's annual wage will be at least £10m less than ours I would imagine - teams like Stoke spent big on their arrival to the EPL but now you see they're having to be a bit tighter as their wages are growing. Yes it is sickening to see teams go out and spend this and some do with even a higher wage expenditure than us but all in all we do spend a lot of money but a lot of it is on players we already have. pete0 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted August 11, 2013 Report Share Posted August 11, 2013 My point wasn't really about them achieving anything, or even that I'd want the players they've bought. More that it's sickening that a newly promoted side can spend those sorts of amounts on players while we, an established top 8 club, have to be careful when spending as little as £5million on a player.i know, just saying money doesn't equal success Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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