duncanmckenzieismagic Posted March 3, 2015 Report Share Posted March 3, 2015 http://www.theguardian.com/football/2015/mar/03/everton-roberto-martinez-bill-kenwright Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chalkpie Posted March 4, 2015 Report Share Posted March 4, 2015 http://www.theguardian.com/football/2015/mar/03/everton-roberto-martinez-bill-kenwright This guy just refuses to address the true problem at hand in every interview and article. What significance does playing an important game with Swansea have to do with a machine that is not functioning properly? As for not being relegated, I wouldn't bet my house on it. Did you see Aston Villa play today? They were hungry and had pride in their accomplishment today against WBA. Don't count them out and don't count any of them out. The relegation fight is going to be as nasty or nastier than the teams at the top. We aren't hungry enough to show that we are ready to spill our blood and guts to avoid relegation. We are generally bland, slow, have little attacking intent, and a goalkeeper whose skills are becoming questionable. That's not even mentioning our style which is arguably not working. We have been saying this the whole season - Everton just needs a few results and the light switch will go on - well here we are still waiting. I am waiting to be proved wrong and also ready to eat crow - go ahead and show me Everton FC. Where are these promises you speak of Mr Martinez? markiediow, duncanmckenzieismagic, Romey 1878 and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MC11 Posted March 4, 2015 Report Share Posted March 4, 2015 This guy just refuses to address the true problem at hand in every interview and article. What significance does playing an important game with Swansea have to do with a machine that is not functioning properly? As for not being relegated, I wouldn't bet my house on it. Did you see Aston Villa play today? They were hungry and had pride in their accomplishment today against WBA. Don't count them out and don't count any of them out. The relegation fight is going to be as nasty or nastier than the teams at the top. We aren't hungry enough to show that we are ready to spill our blood and guts to avoid relegation. We are generally bland, slow, have little attacking intent, and a goalkeeper whose skills are becoming questionable. That's not even mentioning our style which is arguably not working. We have been saying this the whole season - Everton just needs a few results and the light switch will go on - well here we are still waiting. I am waiting to be proved wrong and also ready to eat crow - go ahead and show me Everton FC. Where are these promises you speak of Mr Martinez? Good post that mate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted March 4, 2015 Report Share Posted March 4, 2015 RM try a 4-4-2 Robles Coleman - Stones - Jags - Baines Lennon - McCarthy - Gibson - Mirallas Kone - Lukaku Yes it means dropping Naismith but I honestly feel that Kone and Lukaku are worth a chance together. We need width, try it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lowensda Posted March 4, 2015 Report Share Posted March 4, 2015 RM try a 4-4-2 Robles Coleman - Stones - Jags - Baines Lennon - McCarthy - Gibson - Mirallas Kone - Lukaku Yes it means dropping Naismith but I honestly feel that Kone and Lukaku are worth a chance together. We need width, try it. I'd like to see it. Much more dynamic front line. In theory, Kone and Rom SHOULD work well together. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted March 4, 2015 Report Share Posted March 4, 2015 I'd like to see it. Much more dynamic front line. In theory, Kone and Rom SHOULD work well together. The use of Kone since his return from injury has been bizarre. I'm not a fan of him but Martinez must've been to bring him in but he's barely used him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
London Blue Posted March 4, 2015 Report Share Posted March 4, 2015 The problem is that Martinez likes to play too many players just because he rates them, not because they fit a particular system. This is why you have 4 central midfield players and 1 winger playing, in what I call the window wiper formation, with the sole winger swapping sides. As a aresult we get congested in the middle, no options outside, the attack breaks down. Playing players out of position, where they cant play their natural game leads to drop in confidence, and poor results, which we are seeing now. Young players like Barkley need to be played in the right position where they can flourish. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markiediow Posted March 4, 2015 Report Share Posted March 4, 2015 YES YES YES YES YES YES Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MC11 Posted March 4, 2015 Report Share Posted March 4, 2015 All those that said no - clueless markiediow 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mogsy Posted March 4, 2015 Report Share Posted March 4, 2015 Um yes! markiediow 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markiediow Posted March 4, 2015 Report Share Posted March 4, 2015 Yes markiediow 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antonio Montana Posted March 4, 2015 Report Share Posted March 4, 2015 yes, im done with him now, with his shit team selections, shit formations, shit interviews. markiediow 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MC11 Posted March 4, 2015 Report Share Posted March 4, 2015 It remains - yes markiediow 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antonio Montana Posted March 4, 2015 Report Share Posted March 4, 2015 i admit i did say no on this thread as i thought maybe give him a bit more time to see what he can do but that didnt last long in my mind! a big yes from me now markiediow and Toffee_in_LA 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sherpa Posted March 4, 2015 Report Share Posted March 4, 2015 Plain and simple yes!! Devoid of ideas and passion. every team that has to play us must be thinking certain 3 points, tonight was absolutely dire!! He will take us down absolute certainty!!! markiediow 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted March 4, 2015 Report Share Posted March 4, 2015 All those that said no - clueless Include yourself in that. It's not the end of the season. Unless you are contradicting yourself... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markiediow Posted March 4, 2015 Report Share Posted March 4, 2015 Well my new discussion: 'Now should Martinez be sacked?' has been removed I will start it again here. YES markiediow 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MC11 Posted March 4, 2015 Report Share Posted March 4, 2015 Include yourself in that. It's not the end of the season. Unless you are contradicting yourself... You are never right about anything. You're absolutely clueless. Is it snowing up there? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lowensda Posted March 4, 2015 Report Share Posted March 4, 2015 Most frustrating thing is his inability to notice problems/failings. Not playing a 'natural' side. 1 proper winger winger, playing a makeshift winger, a striker playing a CF role with no help, 3 defensive midfielders...it didn't work in October, still not working in March. When will he fucking learn? markiediow 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sherpa Posted March 4, 2015 Report Share Posted March 4, 2015 I said no because I thought he would get it right... Have to say I think I may have got it wrong. Absolutely seething about tonight total lack of ideas and passion. Burnley and Leicester are gone but we still have to play Qpr and Villa and on tonight's performance I can't see us getting anything from those games... in fact I am now looking at the remaining fixtures and shitting myself about all of them. 10 days to next league game it's now or never for Bill !! Toffee_in_LA, dannybryan88 and markiediow 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MC11 Posted March 4, 2015 Report Share Posted March 4, 2015 Most frustrating thing is his inability to notice problems/failings. Not playing a 'natural' side. 1 proper winger winger, playing a makeshift winger, a striker playing a CF role with no help, 3 defensive midfielders...it didn't work in October, still not working in March. When will he fucking learn? He won't that's the problem. I have not seen an everton side with no structure, no discipline like this in years. It's really bad Toffee_in_LA, markiediow, Matt and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter H Posted March 4, 2015 Report Share Posted March 4, 2015 I supported RM for a very long time but something must give and im afraid its time to let the axe fall. He wont get us out of this. Its up to the players but I dont think they know what they are supposed to do. Thats a management issue. I want RM gone markiediow, Toffee_in_LA, Matt and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lowensda Posted March 4, 2015 Report Share Posted March 4, 2015 The whole "practising corners is a waste of time" paragraph that's in Ossie's book, has freaked me out. My thoughts on Martinez's handle on training sessions took a massive hit back then, now, it's feeling more and more poignant. dannybryan88, Toffee_in_LA, markiediow and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joethebaptist Posted March 4, 2015 Report Share Posted March 4, 2015 YES 'Depart, I say, and let us have done with you. In the name of God, go' dannybryan88 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted March 4, 2015 Report Share Posted March 4, 2015 Well my new discussion: 'Now should Martinez be sacked?' has been removed I will start it again here. YES Not removed, just merged. We don't need two threads with the same discussion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dannybryan88 Posted March 4, 2015 Report Share Posted March 4, 2015 As i am from wigan and use to see wigan play with my lad (FREE SCHOOL TICKETS) its like watching a mirror image of wigan poor tactics no defence lack of goals .....ect and so on thats fine for wigan but this is everton we are not a small club and relegation is just out of the question martinez need to realise were he is and im afraid to say resign or be sacked .. please leave your comments below. Toffee_in_LA and dannybryan88 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mogsy Posted March 4, 2015 Report Share Posted March 4, 2015 Thing is, we won't win the Europa league, there are far better teams than us, so just get rid and start again next season dannybryan88 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted March 4, 2015 Report Share Posted March 4, 2015 As i am from wigan and use to see wigan play with my lad (FREE SCHOOL TICKETS) its like watching a mirror image of wigan poor tactics no defence lack of goals .....ect and so on thats fine for wigan but this is everton we are not a small club and relegation is just out of the question martinez need to realise were he is and im afraid to say resign or be sacked .. please leave your comments below. Merged again. We don't need to be instructed to "..please leave your comments below". That's how we work 24/7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brett Angel Posted March 4, 2015 Author Report Share Posted March 4, 2015 My phone hasn't stopped with people across the park.... This needs to stop. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue 250 Posted March 4, 2015 Report Share Posted March 4, 2015 My phone hasn't stopped with people across the park.... This needs to stop. Press the off button ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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