Hafnia Posted April 26, 2015 Report Share Posted April 26, 2015 Martinez is proving doubters wrong. Tactical masterclass. Chach and Btay 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted April 26, 2015 Report Share Posted April 26, 2015 Martinez is proving doubters wrong. Tactical masterclass.One game out of a handful this season. But, won't take anything away from him today. It's like he's watched the way Everton have been dismantled and adopted that approach. Incredibly encouraging Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Btay Posted April 26, 2015 Report Share Posted April 26, 2015 Martinez is proving doubters wrong. Tactical masterclass. Especially against that wanker Van Gaal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chach Posted April 26, 2015 Report Share Posted April 26, 2015 It's like he's watched the way Everton have been dismantled and adopted that approach. Incredibly encouraging That you find that encouraging is a worry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keith B Posted April 26, 2015 Report Share Posted April 26, 2015 If this holds we will be +1 on goal differential for the season. That would be good enough for 8th, which makes me think we've been a bit unlucky. Very happy with this performance today. Martinez got the game plan spot on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted April 26, 2015 Report Share Posted April 26, 2015 That you find that encouraging is a worry.Why?! If anything it shows he's learnt our weaknesses and even better, learnt how to use it to our advantage. Highly encouraging Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted April 26, 2015 Report Share Posted April 26, 2015 What a save! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cornish Steve Posted April 26, 2015 Report Share Posted April 26, 2015 Can't wait for the post-match interview with van Gaal. He suggested this week that, if United hadn't had a slow start, they would have won the league. Hahahaha. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnh Posted April 26, 2015 Report Share Posted April 26, 2015 The only problem is we did Liverpool a favour. Great win though, brilliant tactics. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chach Posted April 26, 2015 Report Share Posted April 26, 2015 Why?! If anything it shows he's learnt our weaknesses and even better, learnt how to use it to our advantage. Highly encouraging Dumb people never learn Normal people learn from their own mistakes Intelligent people learn from other peoples mistakes. Normal is for losers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted April 26, 2015 Report Share Posted April 26, 2015 Dumb people never learn Normal people learn from their own mistakes Intelligent people learn from other peoples mistakes. Normal is for losers. Explain a 3-0 win then Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chach Posted April 26, 2015 Report Share Posted April 26, 2015 I don't have to, I disagreed with your premise, not the outcome. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chalkpie Posted April 26, 2015 Report Share Posted April 26, 2015 Match of the year for me right there. Goosebumps at moments. Can't remember the lats time I've said this. GOOOO FUCKINNNNN EVERTONNNNNN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted April 26, 2015 Report Share Posted April 26, 2015 I don't have to, I disagreed with your premise, not the outcome.Fair enough, as I disagree with yours. Don't care how he learns, so long as he does and we win. If "normal" is dismantling teams with a new, refined approach, I want normal! Of course, it would be better to learn from others mistakes, but learning is learning. Not evolving, not adapting was my worry in February, but he is showing he can and is. Long may it continue. Btay 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted April 26, 2015 Report Share Posted April 26, 2015 I really wish we wouldn't stand off so much, it makes me have kittens! But other than that we got it right and it was a pleasing performance. Which meant I had a pleasant afternoon watching Everton for a change. I don't agree that everyone played well though. There was one who I thought was crap but, fortunately, he was subbed and, with any luck, he won't start the next game and Mirallas will. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest rusty747 Posted April 26, 2015 Report Share Posted April 26, 2015 (edited) We had a few big decisions go our way today, which we did deserve. Delighted with the win and it was a good performance with good tactics. My only negative comment is that once we scored we went into 'Moyes Mode' and stood off too much. At one stage I thought we were going to try to defend a 1-0 lead for 85 minutes. When top teams score a goal they immediately go looking for the killer second. That is what I would like the next step of Everton's undoubted progress to focus on next. But great win and a good performance. Edited April 26, 2015 by rusty747 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chach Posted April 26, 2015 Report Share Posted April 26, 2015 (edited) "Fair enough, as I disagree with yours. Don't care how he learns, so long as he does and we win. If "normal" is dismantling teams with a new, refined approach, I want normal!Of course, it would be better to learn from others mistakes, but learning is learning. Not evolving, not adapting was my worry in February, but he is showing he can and is. Long may it continue. " We already have enough against us as the game becomes more and more monetised, but, in my opinion we can always afford a visionary manager even if we can't always afford the players, so I am not prepared to compromise on that with a manager who learns by getting battered. We hope Bobby is that guy, but theres not enough results yet to draw any solid conclusions and he's young so we cant compare apples for apples on his previous work. But to clarify, I would be concerned if our "learning" came at the end of the season by adopting the tactics of clubs who beat us, the jury may still officially be out on Bobby but I don't think anyone in the game, of any real substance questions his chops, just whether its going to work in this environment. Sorry if I'm not being clear but its late here and I had a big one last night Edited April 26, 2015 by Chach Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EFC-Paul Posted April 26, 2015 Report Share Posted April 26, 2015 Brilliant a fantastic win and pretty solid performances all round can't ask for much more I knew we could beat them on the counter said it from the beggining they are piss poor when the tables get turned with that back line of thiers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted April 26, 2015 Report Share Posted April 26, 2015 I don't agree that everyone played well though. There was one who I thought was crap but, fortunately, he was subbed and, with any luck, he won't start the next game and Mirallas will. So the assumption is you're talking Ossie; different perspective being at the game to watching it on TV maybe but he was far from crap from where I was watching. pete0 and Matt 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted April 26, 2015 Report Share Posted April 26, 2015 So the assumption is you're talking Ossie; different perspective being at the game to watching it on TV maybe but he was far from crap from where I was watching. Correct. Played like he'd already been on the pitch for an hour from the first whistle, drifted inside far too often leaving Baines on his own defensively and offensively. When he was over there to help out he may as well not have been because Valencia roasted him. I wasn't too impressed with Baines (his corners were better today though) either, or Lukaku (he looked sluggish). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted April 26, 2015 Report Share Posted April 26, 2015 Correct. Played like he'd already been on the pitch for an hour from the first whistle, drifted inside far too often leaving Baines on his own defensively and offensively. When he was over there to help out he may as well not have been because Valencia roasted him. I wasn't too impressed with Baines (his corners were better today though) either, or Lukaku (he looked sluggish). You're a hard man to please . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markjazzbassist Posted April 26, 2015 Author Report Share Posted April 26, 2015 Missed the match but made up with the result!! Here we go 8th place come on Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted April 26, 2015 Report Share Posted April 26, 2015 So the assumption is you're talking Ossie; different perspective being at the game to watching it on TV maybe but he was far from crap from where I was watching. Thought osmans one touch play was sublime in first half. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rubecula Posted April 26, 2015 Report Share Posted April 26, 2015 To be honest I love the result and some of our play was brilliant, tactics were good....... BUT we need to stop giving the ball away so easily. Barkley for example passed the ball to a Man Utd player four times that I can remember.... But not picking on him, he is not the only player who has to learn. I just find it frustrating when so many good moves are ended, not by the skill of the opposition but our own mistakes. Matt 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted April 26, 2015 Report Share Posted April 26, 2015 You're a hard man to please . On another day it's have been the other way round and we'd have been on the end of a hammering, so it's difficult to be all rosey about the game tbh, Mike. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jofanon Posted April 26, 2015 Report Share Posted April 26, 2015 If ever anyone called this! I thank you :jump for joy: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted April 26, 2015 Report Share Posted April 26, 2015 On another day it's have been the other way round and we'd have been on the end of a hammering, so it's difficult to be all rosey about the game tbh, Mike. But the fact is that we scored three and Howard didn't have to make a save of note the whole game, so I fail to see how they could've hammered us. They weren't going to score if you gave them another ninety minutes and if it wasn't for de Gea and a couple of misplaced passes it would have been five. I'm well rosey . Matt 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jofanon Posted April 26, 2015 Report Share Posted April 26, 2015 Makes the Dynamo Kiev result even more annoying. We can compete when Roberto doesn't make daft decisions. Matt 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted April 26, 2015 Report Share Posted April 26, 2015 But the fact is that we scored three and Howard didn't have to make a save of note the whole game, so I fail to see how they could've hammered us. They weren't going to score if you gave them another ninety minutes and if it wasn't for de Gea and a couple of misplaced passes it would have been five. I'm well rosey . It matters how we played though. We let them have too much of the ball and, apart from Lennon, didn't really close them down. If they'd had their creative heads on they'd have stuffed us. Our clinicalness and central defenders were brilliant, but I don't think it was a performance that warrants any thoughts of turning a corner or anything to get excited about. So the result will live long in my memory but the performance will not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cornish Steve Posted April 26, 2015 Report Share Posted April 26, 2015 We just beat United 3-0, with their manager admitting we were more hungry to win and were the better team, and still there are moaning minnies. Can't we just celebrate for a little while? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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