Hafnia Posted February 6 Report Share Posted February 6 3 hours ago, dunlopp9987 said: Get him back STAT! Interesting thing is cos they play 2 up front he is getting a goal. The issue is that in 5 out of the last 7 games Brentford have conceded at least 3 goals. I think that's why many teams don't play 2 strikers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RuffRob Posted February 6 Report Share Posted February 6 As frustrating as it is seeing him score whilst on loan, the more goal he gets the better - if we want to offload him for a permanent fee in the summer, we will at least get a few more quid for him as somebody who grabs a few goals. Matt Tiger 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted February 6 Report Share Posted February 6 18 minutes ago, RuffRob said: As frustrating as it is seeing him score whilst on loan, the more goal he gets the better - if we want to offload him for a permanent fee in the summer, we will at least get a few more quid for him as somebody who grabs a few goals. He's the footballing equivalent of a false economy. He has a strike partner but scores goals and his team are overrun else where. dont like Kyle walker but equally I think Maupay is a prick trying to goad him about his affair Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duncanmckenzieismagic Posted February 6 Report Share Posted February 6 https://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/everton-notebook-neal-maupay-loan-28580247 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gwlad Posted February 6 Report Share Posted February 6 5 hours ago, Hafnia said: dont like Kyle walker but equally I think Maupay is a prick trying to goad him about his affair Fair game, Walker is an almighty prick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newty82 Posted February 7 Report Share Posted February 7 17 hours ago, Hafnia said: He's the footballing equivalent of a false economy. He has a strike partner but scores goals and his team are overrun else where. dont like Kyle walker but equally I think Maupay is a prick trying to goad him about his affair What...you don't think a bloke who is married with a few kids, fucks another lassy, has a kid with her,pays her off and has nothing to do with that kid. Then while his wife is pregnant with their 4th kid, 'accidentally' fucks the other lassy again 'once' after a chance meeting, for her to have their 2nd kiddie... Doesn't deserve some goading? MikeO and Matt 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted February 7 Report Share Posted February 7 17 hours ago, Hafnia said: He's the footballing equivalent of a false economy. He has a strike partner but scores goals and his team are overrun else where. dont like Kyle walker but equally I think Maupay is a prick trying to goad him about his affair I love this false economy argument. So he does his job and its his fault that his other team mates don't. Déjà vu Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted February 7 Report Share Posted February 7 57 minutes ago, Newty82 said: What...you don't think a bloke who is married with a few kids, fucks another lassy, has a kid with her,pays her off and has nothing to do with that kid. Then while his wife is pregnant with their 4th kid, 'accidentally' fucks the other lassy again 'once' after a chance meeting, for her to have their 2nd kiddie... Doesn't deserve some goading? Personally, I'm all for it. I loved Bellingham calling Greenwood a rapist too. StevO 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted February 7 Report Share Posted February 7 14 hours ago, Gwlad said: Express your opinion don't quote and change mine.... you ain't 12 im not a fan of walker but what makes Maupay the moral police? He's a little shithouse who wouldn't dream of saying what he said to walker off the pitch. Thats my issue with him - makes out he's got a bit about him, he shrank playing for us. He got made to look like a prick mocking Maddison's goal celebration. Been beaten in back to back games and he's acting like he's playing for a team that's unbeaten Matt 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted February 7 Report Share Posted February 7 2 hours ago, Newty82 said: What...you don't think a bloke who is married with a few kids, fucks another lassy, has a kid with her,pays her off and has nothing to do with that kid. Then while his wife is pregnant with their 4th kid, 'accidentally' fucks the other lassy again 'once' after a chance meeting, for her to have their 2nd kiddie... Doesn't deserve some goading? It's got fuck all to do with Maupay and I'm guessing there is a lot going on behind the scenes which walker will be rightly feeling. Ironic Maupay being a voice on affairs, he comes from a country renowned for mistresses being "ok". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted February 7 Report Share Posted February 7 2 hours ago, Matt said: I love this false economy argument. So he does his job and its his fault that his other team mates don't. Déjà vu yeah it is Deja vu isn't it, a while ago some wise sod mentioned that the overall result of the team supersedes that of an individuals performance. its not a novel concept really... if you have a player up front who needs to be tactically indulged which could impact you team in the goals against column then you need to look at reward/risk. id say 5 goals for the individual while the team concedes near 20 and has relegation form says to me "stick Toney up front on his own and put an extra midfielder in" .... if I'm not mistaken I believe Klopp dropped Sturridge for this reason..... and let's face it, Maupay ain't Sturridge Matt 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted February 7 Report Share Posted February 7 1 hour ago, Romey 1878 said: Personally, I'm all for it. I loved Bellingham calling Greenwood a rapist too. I think there's a difference between expressing disgust at a player who should be in prison vs a player who hasn't committed a crime. You don't think Brentford has players who have extra curricular activity going on behind their wives backs? it would be interesting to know if Maupay ribs Toney in training about gambling on his team to lose. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted February 7 Report Share Posted February 7 4 minutes ago, Hafnia said: yeah it is Deja vu isn't it, a while ago some wise sod mentioned that the overall result of the team supersedes that of an individuals performance. its not a novel concept really... if you have a player up front who needs to be tactically indulged which could impact you team in the goals against column then you need to look at reward/risk. id say 5 goals for the individual while the team concedes near 20 and has relegation form says to me "stick Toney up front on his own and put an extra midfielder in" .... if I'm not mistaken I believe Klopp dropped Sturridge for this reason..... and let's face it, Maupay ain't Sturridge I'd say if a striker is scoring goals, it's on the defence to stop conceding. Radical idea I know, putting responsibility on those responsible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted February 7 Report Share Posted February 7 2 hours ago, Hafnia said: Express your opinion don't quote and change mine.... you ain't 12 I'm pretty certain Gwlad has just accidentally put his reply to your quoted post inside the post and isn't trying to change yours. 2 hours ago, Hafnia said: I think there's a difference between expressing disgust at a player who should be in prison vs a player who hasn't committed a crime. You don't think Brentford has players who have extra curricular activity going on behind their wives backs? it would be interesting to know if Maupay ribs Toney in training about gambling on his team to lose. What Walker did isn't a crime, no, but it's still disgusting and I don't see the problem with Maupay or any other player being a snide about it. Newty82 and Matt 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted February 7 Report Share Posted February 7 3 hours ago, Matt said: I'd say if a striker is scoring goals, it's on the defence to stop conceding. Radical idea I know, putting responsibility on those responsible. I'd say if a striker only scores goals if he's got another striker alongside him where most teams only have 1 - then his inclusion is weakening the side elsewhere. Maybe Thomas Frank is getting it in the ear from his midfielders who have been overrun in the last few games I've watched them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted February 7 Report Share Posted February 7 1 hour ago, Romey 1878 said: I'm pretty certain Gwlad has just accidentally put his reply to your quoted post inside the post and isn't trying to change yours. What Walker did isn't a crime, no, but it's still disgusting and I don't see the problem with Maupay or any other player being a snide about it. It's not comparable in any way to rape though. I personally think Maupay talking about someone's personal life to them on the pitch and bringing his children into it makes him a prick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted February 7 Report Share Posted February 7 23 minutes ago, Hafnia said: I'd say if a striker only scores goals if he's got another striker alongside him where most teams only have 1 - then his inclusion is weakening the side elsewhere. Maybe Thomas Frank is getting it in the ear from his midfielders who have been overrun in the last few games I've watched them I do know what you mean, it's a balancing act. My tongue in cheek dig was more about putting the blame on the shoulders of the 1 guy who's doing his job. Minimum its the managers fault, mostly its his teammates. But let's not do the dance again Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted February 7 Report Share Posted February 7 4 hours ago, Hafnia said: It's got fuck all to do with Maupay and I'm guessing there is a lot going on behind the scenes which walker will be rightly feeling. Ironic Maupay being a voice on affairs, he comes from a country renowned for mistresses being "ok". Hang on, did you just label an entire countrys culture as philanderers? Based on what? Oh and since Greenwood wasn't convicted, there's no crime to speak of. So it's poor taste banter in both examples. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted February 7 Report Share Posted February 7 1 hour ago, Hafnia said: It's not comparable in any way to rape though. I personally think Maupay talking about someone's personal life to them on the pitch and bringing his children into it makes him a prick. I wasn't saying it's comparable to rape, just that it's using something against a player to goad them on the pitch. I'd be in Walker's ear about what a horrible little bastard he is if I was a player as well. And now everyone knows you can get a reaction out of him by doing it you'll have more players trying it. Matt 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted February 7 Report Share Posted February 7 7 minutes ago, Romey 1878 said: I wasn't saying it's comparable to rape, just that it's using something against a player to goad them on the pitch. I'd be in Walker's ear about what a horrible little bastard he is if I was a player as well. And now everyone knows you can get a reaction out of him by doing it you'll have more players trying it. Wasn't there a lot of complaining that we're too nice and we need a nasty character? Sure I read that somewhere... Romey 1878 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted February 7 Report Share Posted February 7 1 hour ago, Matt said: Hang on, did you just label an entire countrys culture as philanderers? Based on what? Oh and since Greenwood wasn't convicted, there's no crime to speak of. So it's poor taste banter in both examples. Greenwood wasn't convicted cos the girl who released video evidence which was horrific in itself decided not to be a witness any more. Matt 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted February 7 Report Share Posted February 7 43 minutes ago, Matt said: Wasn't there a lot of complaining that we're too nice and we need a nasty character? Sure I read that somewhere... Yeah I think I may have said our players need to mentally wreck opponents heads with personal stuff and bring their kids into it. I'll have to dig it out.... if I can't find that you may find posts where I've said we need to stop being so soft as though we want an award for being good sports. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gwlad Posted February 7 Report Share Posted February 7 6 hours ago, Hafnia said: Express your opinion don't quote and change mine.... you ain't 12 im not a fan of walker but what makes Maupay the moral police? He's a little shithouse who wouldn't dream of saying what he said to walker off the pitch. Thats my issue with him - makes out he's got a bit about him, he shrank playing for us. He got made to look like a prick mocking Maddison's goal celebration. Been beaten in back to back games and he's acting like he's playing for a team that's unbeaten Sorry I didn't realise the mistake with the post. I wouldn't dare to change your post! It doesn't change my opinion of Walker. Feel sorry for the women and kids. Hafnia and Matt 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted February 7 Report Share Posted February 7 1 hour ago, Hafnia said: Yeah I think I may have said our players need to mentally wreck opponents heads with personal stuff and bring their kids into it. I'll have to dig it out.... if I can't find that you may find posts where I've said we need to stop being so soft as though we want an award for being good sports. Wasn't talking about you specifically, it was a general observation. I Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted February 7 Report Share Posted February 7 1 hour ago, Hafnia said: Greenwood wasn't convicted cos the girl who released video evidence which was horrific in itself decided not to be a witness any more. So there's been no criminal prosecution, so no crime has been punished. Don't get me wrong, it stinks to high heaven and I don't agree with how it played out. But he wasn't convicted is what I was getting at. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevO Posted February 7 Report Share Posted February 7 I miss the good old days when we used to talk about footy here on TT. Romey 1878 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted February 7 Report Share Posted February 7 4 hours ago, Matt said: So there's been no criminal prosecution, so no crime has been punished. Don't get me wrong, it stinks to high heaven and I don't agree with how it played out. But he wasn't convicted is what I was getting at. Money talks.... that photo /audio footage was a disgrace. Proper piece of shit Matt 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted February 8 Report Share Posted February 8 7 hours ago, Hafnia said: Money talks.... that photo /audio footage was a disgrace. Proper piece of shit Oh I agree, that is the most likely scenario. However he was acquitted so he's "innocent" of rape and so the comparison between goading a serial womaniser and a violent womaniser is quite valid and both deserve all the stick they deserve. Fuck them both. Gwlad 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted February 8 Report Share Posted February 8 3 hours ago, Matt said: Oh I agree, that is the most likely scenario. However he was acquitted so he's "innocent" of rape and so the comparison between goading a serial womaniser and a violent womaniser is quite valid and both deserve all the stick they deserve. Fuck them both. The reality of football is that if you look at everything about the game now vs 30 years ago it's been destroyed by money and what money does to people. Many players and commentators etc think they can do as they want, the arrogance is off the scale. The biggest key factor in getting the right players etc is getting those characters who aren't gonna be doing tik tok videos, stood laughing after a loss, it's about getting good characters... as we've seen the premier league itself as an org has been destroyed by money Gwlad and Matt 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted February 21 Report Share Posted February 21 https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-68293359 What the fuck is wrong with people? Romey 1878 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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