NYBlue Posted February 14, 2014 Report Share Posted February 14, 2014 No mention of arrogance? Something is wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MC11 Posted February 14, 2014 Report Share Posted February 14, 2014 Barkley is not match fit. Certainly rushed back. You have to question the decision to give a 20 year old an injection. Yes he's a decisive player. But it didn't half back fire. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYBlue Posted February 14, 2014 Report Share Posted February 14, 2014 Barkley is not match fit. Certainly rushed back. You have to question the decision to give a 20 year old an injection. Yes he's a decisive player. But it didn't half back fire. Martinez said as much in his press conference. I'm sure he'd see the positive side in that he knows Barkley needs to be absolutely spot on have the desired impact. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailey Posted February 15, 2014 Report Share Posted February 15, 2014 Barkley is not match fit. Certainly rushed back. You have to question the decision to give a 20 year old an injection. Yes he's a decisive player. But it didn't half back fire. He was rushed back due to the injuries we had at the time. In the circumstances I didnt think Barkley was that bad and the worst decision was to start Pienaar IMO. Martinez admits he got it wrong, but at least he does admit it and hopefully when Barkley does come back he will be fighting fit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted March 18, 2014 Author Report Share Posted March 18, 2014 http://www.theguardian.com/football/2014/mar/17/roberto-martinez-ross-barkley-roy-hodgson Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cornish Steve Posted March 18, 2014 Report Share Posted March 18, 2014 The players must love it when their manager talks them up like this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MC11 Posted March 18, 2014 Report Share Posted March 18, 2014 That injury certainly seems to have put a halt on his progression. He looks a completely different player from the end of the year. It is coming though you can see he's getting fitter. He was brought back far too early and we've suffered a major dip in form ever since. Martinez has to be made accountable for that IMO. Yes he was a crucial player but we ended up on the end of a 4-0 hiding and lost him for a number of weeks afterwards. Lose lose Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sibdane Posted March 18, 2014 Report Share Posted March 18, 2014 That injury certainly seems to have put a halt on his progression. He looks a completely different player from the end of the year. It is coming though you can see he's getting fitter. He was brought back far too early and we've suffered a major dip in form ever since. Martinez has to be made accountable for that IMO. Yes he was a crucial player but we ended up on the end of a 4-0 hiding and lost him for a number of weeks afterwards. Lose lose Hindsight is 20/20. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted March 19, 2014 Report Share Posted March 19, 2014 http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2584143/Roberto-Martinez-tactical-David-Moyes-says-young-Everton-star-Ross-Barkley.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted March 19, 2014 Report Share Posted March 19, 2014 http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2584143/Roberto-Martinez-tactical-David-Moyes-says-young-Everton-star-Ross-Barkley.html Check out the knuckleball technique that Barkley puts on that shot - Ronaldoesque. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lowensda Posted March 19, 2014 Report Share Posted March 19, 2014 Why does he not do that more outside the area for us? Matt 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MC11 Posted March 19, 2014 Report Share Posted March 19, 2014 Why does he not do that more outside the area for us? If he was playing deeper with the freedom to go forward I think you'd see a lot more of them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rubecula Posted March 20, 2014 Report Share Posted March 20, 2014 I agree it is all about where and how a player is played Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted March 20, 2014 Report Share Posted March 20, 2014 Why does he not do that more outside the area for us?instead of dicking about taking too many touches? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lowensda Posted March 20, 2014 Report Share Posted March 20, 2014 Yep. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shukes Posted March 23, 2014 Report Share Posted March 23, 2014 What can we do to give this kid some sparkle back? I know he had an injury but wasn't it a broken toe? He should be fit again now. It's almost like he is taking lessons.from Torres. A spectacular fall from form. He just seems to have no confidence at all. Watching him yesterday was a pretty sad day, we know what he can do but he looks like he is going to end up one of these players that always promises but never delivers.is the premier just to fast for him? Other fans don't really rate him. I speak to friends and they think he will end up a mid table player. I just wish he would go back to being a boy again and have no fear. I pray with all my heart I'm wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Romey 1878 Posted March 23, 2014 Author Popular Post Report Share Posted March 23, 2014 What can we do to give this kid some sparkle back? I know he had an injury but wasn't it a broken toe? He should be fit again now. It's almost like he is taking lessons.from Torres. A spectacular fall from form. He just seems to have no confidence at all. Watching him yesterday was a pretty sad day, we know what he can do but he looks like he is going to end up one of these players that always promises but never delivers.is the premier just to fast for him? Other fans don't really rate him. I speak to friends and they think he will end up a mid table player. I just wish he would go back to being a boy again and have no fear. I pray with all my heart I'm wrong. :major overreaction alert: He wasn't that bad yesterday at all! A sad day? Not going to make it? Be a mid-table player? Wow. Just wow. I admit he hasn't got back to what he showed at the start of the season but this is a major over-reaction by you and those saying to you that he'll be a mid-table player. Toffee_in_LA, MikeO, StevO and 4 others 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoodisonRoad Posted March 23, 2014 Report Share Posted March 23, 2014 What can we do to give this kid some sparkle back? I know he had an injury but wasn't it a broken toe? He should be fit again now. It's almost like he is taking lessons.from Torres. A spectacular fall from form. He just seems to have no confidence at all. Watching him yesterday was a pretty sad day, we know what he can do but he looks like he is going to end up one of these players that always promises but never delivers.is the premier just to fast for him? Other fans don't really rate him. I speak to friends and they think he will end up a mid table player. I just wish he would go back to being a boy again and have no fear. I pray with all my heart I'm wrong. He scored a goal and got a penalty with a good bit of skill, but yeah he didn't deliver did he really? . He's still only 20 years old for christ sake...I think people forget that sometimes. Im not saying he was back to his best yesterday (we still dont know how good his "best" is) but like Romey said, MAJOR over reaction. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MC11 Posted March 23, 2014 Report Share Posted March 23, 2014 (edited) He's going to be a top draw player. But yesterday MOTD gave him far too much credit for his overall performance. At times I forgot he was on the pitch. Edited March 23, 2014 by MiguelCotto Romey 1878, MC11 and Toffee_in_LA 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brett Angel Posted March 23, 2014 Report Share Posted March 23, 2014 barkleys vision is increasingly shite. He reminds me of the player who was far superior to all the others ones at school so he just tried to take everyone on. If his Vision was as good as his feet, our goals for this season would be far healthier. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted March 23, 2014 Report Share Posted March 23, 2014 Wow... Don't know what to say to this other than pipe down folks. He's learning all the time... Mid table player??? The lad is going to be England's best player. Simple as that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brett Angel Posted March 23, 2014 Report Share Posted March 23, 2014 So Haf what your saying is he has terrific vision then? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted March 23, 2014 Report Share Posted March 23, 2014 So Haf what your saying is he has terrific vision then?Not close to what he said. He is saying he's a "work in progress", working towards becoming one of the best players the country has seen in a long time. His vision, his delaying on the ball are things that will be improved /eradicated during his progress. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duncanmckenzieismagic Posted March 23, 2014 Report Share Posted March 23, 2014 barkleys vision is increasingly shite. He reminds me of the player who was far superior to all the others ones at school so he just tried to take everyone on. If his Vision was as good as his feet, our goals for this season would be far healthier. His vision was pretty good against Arsenal the other week Bailey 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SimonButtle Posted March 23, 2014 Report Share Posted March 23, 2014 barkleys vision is increasingly shite. He reminds me of the player who was far superior to all the others ones at school so he just tried to take everyone on. If his Vision was as good as his feet, our goals for this season would be far healthier. Don't really think he's ever tried to be a number 10 type anyway has he? seem's a different sort of player imo, more of a support man from midfield. Spraying the ball around is not his thing, he's not a Mata or Silva, it's something we are really lacking imo. Sideliner 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted March 23, 2014 Report Share Posted March 23, 2014 His vision is exceptionally good, at times his decision making clouds this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue 250 Posted March 23, 2014 Report Share Posted March 23, 2014 Barkleys footballing brain works quicker than his feet. When he recieves the ball he knows exactly what he should do with it, he just seems to struggle with the execution.When his feet catch up with his brain, he will be almost unplayable, it will be more a case of whether his team mates are capable of matching him. Clever/talented players need like wise around them, will he, if he improves out grow this team? Does he need better players around him to improve! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shukes Posted March 23, 2014 Report Share Posted March 23, 2014 :major overreaction alert: He wasn't that bad yesterday at all! A sad day? Not going to make it? Be a mid-table player? Wow. Just wow. I admit he hasn't got back to what he showed at the start of the season but this is a major over-reaction by you and those saying to you that he'll be a mid-table player. I didn't say I thought he would be a mid table player. I said fans of other teams have that opinion, well a few I have spoken too. I'm just frustrated because I know how good he can be. And really, yes he was pretty bad yesterday if I'm honest. He slowed down play at pretty much every opportunity. And it's not a one off. The frustration comes from being happy Everytime I read his name on the teamsheet and by 60 mins, just thinking get him off now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shukes Posted March 23, 2014 Report Share Posted March 23, 2014 So we don't think he needs anything other than time then? Personally, I feel he needs freedom to go and enjoy his football. Not sure if he is getting that at the moment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted March 23, 2014 Author Report Share Posted March 23, 2014 I know you didn't say he'd be a mid-table player, Shukes, I worded that bit of my reply wrongly, sorry! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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