Cornish Steve Posted October 9, 2013 Report Share Posted October 9, 2013 please tell me youve made that up. Yes sir! Was wondering who would take the bait. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted October 10, 2013 Report Share Posted October 10, 2013 Yes sir! Was wondering who would take the bait. you trying to get me to make a trip up to manchester with a pair of pliers and a blow torch? Matt and marcus jones 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted October 10, 2013 Report Share Posted October 10, 2013 Come on people, as if Moyes would call it soccer. Dead giveaway! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted October 10, 2013 Report Share Posted October 10, 2013 Yes sir! Was wondering who would take the bait. you trying to get me to make a trip up to manchester with a pair of pliers and a blow torch? I'll hold him down, Haf! Steve... :shaking fist: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted October 10, 2013 Report Share Posted October 10, 2013 Why is it that England has the strongest league in the world and yet has an abysmal national team? I wonder what difference it would make if as many English players played in other countries as players from overseas play in the EPL. It means we don't understand the style of play of other national teams as well as our opponents understand us. What if 50% of England's team played for clubs overseas - instead of zero of them? because its full of bloody foreigners ruining the game :shaking fist: Told ya http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/24467371 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cornish Steve Posted October 10, 2013 Report Share Posted October 10, 2013 So why don't more English players join top teams overseas? I don't see the presence of strong international players in the EPL as a problem. It's more that our players, unlike their counterparts on the continent, prefer to be parochial, which hinders their development. Why are there no English Deulofeu's spending a year playing in the Spanish league, for example? In the end, the argument of 'free trade' always wins. Protectionism would hurt the EPL and lower its quality. Bailey 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted October 11, 2013 Report Share Posted October 11, 2013 http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/24393746 Cleverly out... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted October 11, 2013 Report Share Posted October 11, 2013 http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/24393746 Cleverly out... Huge blow. :jump for joy: Romey 1878 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted October 11, 2013 Report Share Posted October 11, 2013 So... the team Id like to see in the last 2 games: ................Hart.................. Walker Jags Cahill Baines .... Gerrard Carrick ........ Barkley Rooney Wilshere .............Sturridge.............. I know, Barkley and Wilshere are more central, but Id play that attacking mid 3 more narrow to allow quick short passing triangles in the centre, with the 2 wingbacks getting some exercise. the 2 CDM should be more than enough cover if the WBs go forward rather than the AMR/L players having to track back each time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted October 11, 2013 Report Share Posted October 11, 2013 Word is that Wilshere won't be starting isn't it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vranny Posted October 11, 2013 Report Share Posted October 11, 2013 (edited) I'd actually be very tempted to play 3 at the back if the squad could manage the formation adjustment. There's a lack of wide players in the squad and it'd allow Baines and Walker to bomb forward freely. Something like Hart, Jags, Cahill, Jones; Walker, Gerrard, Carrick, Baines; Barkley; Sturridge, Rooney would look ace. Edited October 11, 2013 by Vranny Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted October 11, 2013 Report Share Posted October 11, 2013 I'd actually be very tempted to play 3 at the back if the squad could manage the formation adjustment. There's a lack of wide players in the squad it'd allowand release Baines and Walker to bomb Hodgson's a dinosaur so that's never going to happen really. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vranny Posted October 11, 2013 Report Share Posted October 11, 2013 Hodgson's a dinosaur so that's never going to happen really. He won't play it, but it'd be interesting to see it happen. Fixed the above post btw. Bloody smart phones. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lowensda Posted October 11, 2013 Report Share Posted October 11, 2013 Ultimately. England are just a bit...shit. Boring. Predictable. Don't enjoy watching the games anymore. There used to be excitement to the games but with the loss of passion for the national team, it's all just a bit dull and lifeless. A young, long haul manager is needed me thinks. Someone who likes to mix it up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted October 11, 2013 Report Share Posted October 11, 2013 Word is that Wilshere won't be starting isn't it? dunno mate, but its what Id like to see Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted October 11, 2013 Report Share Posted October 11, 2013 1 Hart 2 Walker 3 Baines 4 Gerrard 5 Cahill 6 Jagielka 7 Townsend 8 Lampard 9 Sturridge 10 Rooney 11 Welbeck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted October 11, 2013 Report Share Posted October 11, 2013 Townsend starting... Hmm. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted October 11, 2013 Report Share Posted October 11, 2013 Townsend to start, Barkley to finish them off... would live him to get on and burst the net Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cornish Steve Posted October 11, 2013 Report Share Posted October 11, 2013 Sorry, folks, but I'm not convinced England can win. They are playing a decent side, and there's no fire in their belly. We are really going to struggle to qualify for the WC this time around. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted October 11, 2013 Report Share Posted October 11, 2013 Rooney is playing well, he will get a brace. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailey Posted October 11, 2013 Report Share Posted October 11, 2013 Townsend starting... Hmm. At least its a winger playing on the wing. I dont understand why so many managers try and shoe horn strikers into wide midfield roles. I would have gone with this: Hart Walker - Jags - Cahill - Baines Barry (or Carrick) - Gerrard Townsend - Rooney - Barkley/Wilshere Sturridge To be honest I wanted a proper winger on the left but I cant think of one and it probably answers my first line! Its also desperate to think Jags and Cahill are our best CB's! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cornish Steve Posted October 11, 2013 Report Share Posted October 11, 2013 This is going to be a typical England performance. Montenegro will score at about 55 minutes, England will push for goal like crazy and score at about 80 minutes, and the match will end as a draw. England will finish fail to win the group and fight next week for second place and the playoffs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cornish Steve Posted October 11, 2013 Report Share Posted October 11, 2013 Well, thank goodness I"m wrong so far! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avinalaff Posted October 11, 2013 Report Share Posted October 11, 2013 I thought the opposition were particularly poor tonight, allowing us far too much play. Sturridge looks a player. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted October 12, 2013 Report Share Posted October 12, 2013 I thought the opposition were particularly poor tonight, allowing us far too much play. Sturridge looks a player. They came to get a draw and nothing else, so I'm quite pleased we managed to break down a team happy to just sit back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailey Posted October 12, 2013 Report Share Posted October 12, 2013 They looked like they could have been quite dangerous on the counter attack but they had no real pace fortunately. It was a decent enough performance in the end. Bainesy and Jags did well along with Walker and Hart in the back 5. Cahill doesnt look like he is an international centre half to me and I wasnt really impressed by his performance. Gerrard did ok, Lampard was anonymous, Welbeck wasnt even worth mentioning because he was poor but Townsend did ok. Its crazy that he is so one footed and Montengro should have dealt with him a bit better but then the two times he actually did anything with his right foot, they ended up in goals with a scuffed cross that eventually broke to Rooney and the goal which he wouldnt score again if you gave him 50 goes (judging by his technique on it anyway!). Sturridge was a handful, but again he wasted some good chances and his penalty was piss poor but luckily the keeper went the wrong way. Rooney was another that never really got going IMO. Based on that performance its hard to fathom exactly why we have never beaten them on the previous 3 occasions because they were really poor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted October 12, 2013 Report Share Posted October 12, 2013 They looked like they could have been quite dangerous on the counter attack but they had no real pace fortunately. It was a decent enough performance in the end. Bainesy and Jags did well along with Walker and Hart in the back 5. Cahill doesnt look like he is an international centre half to me and I wasnt really impressed by his performance. Gerrard did ok, Lampard was anonymous, Welbeck wasnt even worth mentioning because he was poor but Townsend did ok. Its crazy that he is so one footed and Montengro should have dealt with him a bit better but then the two times he actually did anything with his right foot, they ended up in goals with a scuffed cross that eventually broke to Rooney and the goal which he wouldnt score again if you gave him 50 goes (judging by his technique on it anyway!). Sturridge was a handful, but again he wasted some good chances and his penalty was piss poor but luckily the keeper went the wrong way. Rooney was another that never really got going IMO. Based on that performance its hard to fathom exactly why we have never beaten them on the previous 3 occasions because they were really poor. Thought Gerrard's passing was shocking. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted October 12, 2013 Report Share Posted October 12, 2013 http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/24439799 Sterling in for Cleverly... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted October 12, 2013 Report Share Posted October 12, 2013 http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/24439799 Sterling in for Cleverly... Most Liverpool fans will tell you he's been shite so far this season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted October 12, 2013 Report Share Posted October 12, 2013 Most Liverpool fans will tell you he's been shite so far this season. to be honest, couldnt care less. Watched the game yesterday and realised Ive absolutely no interest in England... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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