Matt Posted March 19, 2013 Report Share Posted March 19, 2013 (edited) It's all just smoke and mirrors, IMO, he knows exactly what he's going to do regarding his contract. oh i know! just thought it was strange hes trying to claim that it makes a difference.... Edited March 19, 2013 by Matt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avinalaff Posted March 20, 2013 Report Share Posted March 20, 2013 OS http://www.evertonfc.com/match/everton-squad.html has 28 in the main squad. 9 haven't started a game, with 5 of them not even making a cameo. He can f off wanting more players when he doesn't even utilise what he's got. It's a sad state of affairs when we're pissed off because he doesn't play the kids isn't it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zoo Posted March 20, 2013 Report Share Posted March 20, 2013 It's a sad state of affairs when we're pissed off because he doesn't play the kids isn't it? I actually couldn't give a shit if he's ignoring the kids. We've still got a Champions League/Europa League spot to play for so we must be doing something right. If we were 17th in the league then I would agree but I think sometimes people get pissed off just for the sake of it, we are in a really healthy position. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avinalaff Posted March 20, 2013 Report Share Posted March 20, 2013 I actually couldn't give a shit if he's ignoring the kids. We've still got a Champions League/Europa League spot to play for so we must be doing something right. If we were 17th in the league then I would agree but I think sometimes people get pissed off just for the sake of it, we are in a really healthy position. I knew you had a sensible post in you ha ha. I agree entirely. Starting to sound like those horrible shite lately. Still loads to look forward to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zoo Posted March 20, 2013 Report Share Posted March 20, 2013 I knew you had a sensible post in you ha ha. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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duncanmckenzieismagic Posted March 20, 2013 Report Share Posted March 20, 2013 I actually couldn't give a shit if he's ignoring the kids. We've still got a Champions League/Europa League spot to play for so we must be doing something right. If we were 17th in the league then I would agree but I think sometimes people get pissed off just for the sake of it, we are in a really healthy position. I agree, but there seems to be a mentality in here that Moyes should play the kids just because they are kids no matter how good they are Quinn31 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Romey 1878 Posted March 20, 2013 Popular Post Report Share Posted March 20, 2013 I agree, but there seems to be a mentality in here that Moyes should play the kids just because they are kids no matter how good they are Hardly. Or at least that's not my view. I'd like him to utilise his squad, not necessarily use the kids, it just so happens that a lot of the squad happens to be kids. It'd have been nice to bring some of them on when games are dead and buried. The Brentford game springs to mind when we were 4-1 up and it was the likes of Naismith and Hitz came on while Vellios and Barkley twiddled their thumbs instead of getting first team experience. I'd also have liked a couple of first teamers to have been dropped in favour of others for a game or two when it was clear they needed a rest or were badly out of form. It does no good to run these players into the ground. Sibdane, Matt, pete0 and 3 others 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duncanmckenzieismagic Posted March 20, 2013 Report Share Posted March 20, 2013 (edited) Hardly. Or at least that's not my view. I'd like him to utilise his squad, not necessarily use the kids, it just so happens that a lot of the squad happens to be kids. It'd have been nice to bring some of them on when games are dead and buried. The Brentford game springs to mind when we were 4-1 up and it was the likes of Naismith and Hitz came on while Vellios and Barkley twiddled their thumbs instead of getting first team experience. I'd also have liked a couple of first teamers to have been dropped in favour of others for a game or two when it was clear they needed a rest or were badly out of form. It does no good to run these players into the ground. Cant really argue with that, Im just against all this shite about the kids should be starting and all this nonsense about Moyes never giving youth a go IMO we have a squad of about 14 good players and apart from a few promising youngsters who aren't quite ready to be starting games yet , that's about it and so I can fully understand why Moyes would want to strengthen the squad Edited March 20, 2013 by duncanmckenzieismagic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EFC-Paul Posted March 20, 2013 Report Share Posted March 20, 2013 Hardly. Or at least that's not my view. I'd like him to utilise his squad, not necessarily use the kids, it just so happens that a lot of the squad happens to be kids. It'd have been nice to bring some of them on when games are dead and buried. The Brentford game springs to mind when we were 4-1 up and it was the likes of Naismith and Hitz came on while Vellios and Barkley twiddled their thumbs instead of getting first team experience. I'd also have liked a couple of first teamers to have been dropped in favour of others for a game or two when it was clear they needed a rest or were badly out of form. It does no good to run these players into the ground. Was about to post then I read this and it pretty much sums it up for Me! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted March 20, 2013 Report Share Posted March 20, 2013 I'm not into the idea of the youth playing for no reason - however when you don't see them despite some of the tired half arsed perfromances of the seniors then you can ask questions of Moyes. Matt 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcirony Posted March 20, 2013 Report Share Posted March 20, 2013 Would I rather be here than anywhere else on a day like this? Well, if youd asked me that when I made a substitution that didnt seem that popular [like Steven Naismith for Mirallas] even though I felt it was right to keep us in the game, then theres a wee element of that as well! I felt I was being questioned at that moment, but maybe people are now big enough to turn around and concede that we perhaps got it right after all. Ive definitely given Everton the respect with my work here and I hope thats mutual." What an egotistical dick head Moyes is. It was an awful substitute and he's trying to make out he's a genius and the mere fan knows fuck all. What did Naismith contribute before a short pass in stoppage time when the game was already wrapped up anyway? Because all I can remember is a shit pass when we were on the counter and a poor corner. That short pass did get us out second goal though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted March 20, 2013 Report Share Posted March 20, 2013 That short pass did get us out second goal though. Wasn't his intended pass though....he was trying to play it to Jela but it deflected off Clichy to Felli, so his only positive contribution was accidental . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zoo Posted March 20, 2013 Report Share Posted March 20, 2013 Wasn't his intended pass though....he was trying to play it to Jela but it deflected off Clichy to Felli, so his only positive contribution was accidental . In my opinion he saw that the pass to Fellaini was hard to make so instead used his quick-thinking initiative to bounce the ball of Clichy's leg and into the path of Marouane. I think you're all being harsh on Stevey - he's a world beater. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailey Posted March 20, 2013 Report Share Posted March 20, 2013 Hardly. Or at least that's not my view. I'd like him to utilise his squad, not necessarily use the kids, it just so happens that a lot of the squad happens to be kids. It'd have been nice to bring some of them on when games are dead and buried. The Brentford game springs to mind when we were 4-1 up and it was the likes of Naismith and Hitz came on while Vellios and Barkley twiddled their thumbs instead of getting first team experience. I'd also have liked a couple of first teamers to have been dropped in favour of others for a game or two when it was clear they needed a rest or were badly out of form. It does no good to run these players into the ground. This is something some people cant seem to get their head around! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sideliner Posted March 20, 2013 Report Share Posted March 20, 2013 " You can never cross the ocean ( read finish in the top 4 or win the league ) unless you have the courage to lose sight of the shore (read Moyes as safe haven for mid-table position for 11 years running ) ." - Christopher Columbus Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avinalaff Posted March 20, 2013 Report Share Posted March 20, 2013 The reason amny of our squad are kids, is because we have to have them to make the numbers up. It 'isn't' because they're good enough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted March 20, 2013 Report Share Posted March 20, 2013 The reason amny of our squad are kids, is because we have to have them to make the numbers up. It 'isn't' because they're good enough. You've been to the pub Avin haven't you ! That's a severe mangling of grammar, DK will be on your case . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted March 20, 2013 Report Share Posted March 20, 2013 Having said that, "That's a severe mangling of grammar" is pretty suspect also . More beer! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marcopaulo Posted March 20, 2013 Report Share Posted March 20, 2013 at least we can all agree beer is good! we need a beer thread..keep the morale up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted March 20, 2013 Report Share Posted March 20, 2013 at least we can all agree beer is good! we need a beer thread..keep the morale up You may have something there Marco! How about an "If Moyes goes which beer would you drink and what word would you be likely to spell incorrectly?" thread ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marcopaulo Posted March 20, 2013 Report Share Posted March 20, 2013 whiskey(if included) and whiskey(if included) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marcopaulo Posted March 20, 2013 Report Share Posted March 20, 2013 and included Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avinalaff Posted March 20, 2013 Report Share Posted March 20, 2013 You've been to the pub Avin haven't you ! That's a severe mangling of grammar, DK will be on your case . Ha ha, just saw that. I'm sure it must be an anagram of something incredibly interesting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted March 21, 2013 Report Share Posted March 21, 2013 Hardly. Or at least that's not my view. I'd like him to utilise his squad, not necessarily use the kids, it just so happens that a lot of the squad happens to be kids. It'd have been nice to bring some of them on when games are dead and buried. The Brentford game springs to mind when we were 4-1 up and it was the likes of Naismith and Hitz came on while Vellios and Barkley twiddled their thumbs instead of getting first team experience. I'd also have liked a couple of first teamers to have been dropped in favour of others for a game or two when it was clear they needed a rest or were badly out of form. It does no good to run these players into the ground. spot on Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dalziel Kane Posted March 21, 2013 Report Share Posted March 21, 2013 Say again, for the benefit of this thread, if Moyes does vacate his position in the summer, I'm kind of looking foward to it, as I do think, by each passing day, it does look increasingly probable this may come to pass. What do you want, more years of mundane stability and trying for a UEFA cup place each year, getting within touch of a trophy, and falling to pieces each damn occasion, or a manager who actually goes out to win or take a gamble ?, and remember saying before, even if Moyes had the funds at his disposal, with his tentative approaches, would it really make for that much of a difference ? For the final time, that Wigan embarrassment recently, was the last straw for many. I had to include myself in that number. I really feel he should leave this close season, not only if we really are to win something again, but for the health and well being of supporters you can truly testify sometimes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EFC-Paul Posted March 22, 2013 Report Share Posted March 22, 2013 UEFA cup I'll get the Delorean Matt, Steve_E and Peter H 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duncanmckenzieismagic Posted March 22, 2013 Report Share Posted March 22, 2013 It seems that the people who want Moyes out would generally like either Martinez or Laudrup in. What makes you think either would be interested in the Everton job? Martinez turned The Shite down in the summer and it looks like Wigan will have European football next season.,same goes for Laudrup who has also just signed a new contract at Swansea. What makes you think either would give that up to come to Everton where they would have no money to spend to put their stamp on the club? marcopaulo 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted March 22, 2013 Report Share Posted March 22, 2013 It seems that the people who want Moyes out would generally like either Martinez or Laudrup in. What makes you think either would be interested in the Everton job? Martinez turned The Shite down in the summer and it looks like Wigan will have European football next season.,same goes for Laudrup who has also just signed a new contract at Swansea. What makes you think either would give that up to come to Everton where they would have no money to spend to put their stamp on the club? I can think of £70,000 reasons... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duncanmckenzieismagic Posted March 22, 2013 Report Share Posted March 22, 2013 I can think of £70,000 reasons... If that's why they would want to come then they can stay away Matt 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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