Steve_E Posted August 26, 2013 Report Share Posted August 26, 2013 I understand you're point, and I expected Martinez to bring in a few ex-Wigan players, but it seems as if that's all he's looked at/gone for. We have a scouting network at Everton beyond the areas of Wigan, Manchester, and Liverpool. Maybe McCarthy was wanted by our scouts. He's one of the best young midfielders in the league outside of the top six and Wigan going down makes him an even more realistic target. Martinez already knows him closely, so he can judge more than just his play on the pitch (also is he a good worker in training, is he a good character to have in a group, etc.). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cornish Steve Posted August 26, 2013 Report Share Posted August 26, 2013 The moment the Fellaini deal goes through, McCarthy will turn blue. I thought DM told the press that his next offer would be made right after today's Chelsea game? Come on, Davie boy: stop dithering. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted August 26, 2013 Report Share Posted August 26, 2013 The moment the Fellaini deal goes through, McCarthy will turn blue. I thought DM told the press that his next offer would be made right after today's Chelsea game? Come on, Davie boy: stop dithering. I mustve missed that then. Baines is now 1/3 on SkyBet to go so who knows. Maybe Davie is having palpitations at the thought of parting with 40m (which would be a reasonably respectful bid) ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cornish Steve Posted August 26, 2013 Report Share Posted August 26, 2013 I mustve missed that then. Baines is now 1/3 on SkyBet to go so who knows. Maybe Davie is having palpitations at the thought of parting with 40m (which would be a reasonably respectful bid) ... As I recall, the press claimed the offer to be made this evening would be for 36m. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted August 26, 2013 Report Share Posted August 26, 2013 (edited) still 14m short in my opinion, only say 40m because i reckon that would be the turning point. edit: Moyes being an absolute dick in his interview. Moaning about pens (was never a pen against Lampard). Edited August 26, 2013 by Matt pete0 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevO Posted August 26, 2013 Report Share Posted August 26, 2013 Also with united now in for Bale, probably too late anyway typical Dave, I wonder if they'll back off our lads a bit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted August 26, 2013 Report Share Posted August 26, 2013 Also with united now in for Bale, probably too late anyway typical Dave, I wonder if they'll back off our lads a bit.agree. Also think Bale is well suited for the Spanish game, any physical contact is instantly penalized plus Madrid will give him a wage to rival Spain's national budget (maybe a bad parody there, since they're skint!) Hope he does go to Utd, means no funds for Felli and Baines Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted August 27, 2013 Report Share Posted August 27, 2013 (edited) TwitterOfficial Everton @EvertonRoberto Martinez confirms there has been no further contact from Manchester United #EFC TwitterOfficial Everton @EvertonRoberto Martinez says Everton have not made a bid for Wigan's James McCarthy #EFC http://www.evertonfc.com/news/archive/2013/08/27/no-united-contact Edited August 27, 2013 by Matt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alguna Vez Tonelada Posted August 27, 2013 Report Share Posted August 27, 2013 Daily Express this morning are reporting that Newcastle are in pole position to sign McCarthy as replacement for Cabaye Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoodisonRoad Posted August 27, 2013 Report Share Posted August 27, 2013 Daily Express this morning are reporting that Newcastle are in pole position to sign McCarthy as replacement for Cabaye thought this would be the case straight away. We cant afford him unless Felli goes. Newcastle probably could even if Cabaye doesnt go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fearthainn Posted August 27, 2013 Report Share Posted August 27, 2013 (edited) The closer we get to the end of the transfer window the more worried I get. The "sell Felli on the last day, fail to bring in a replacement" scenario cannot be ruled out yet. Edited August 27, 2013 by Fearthainn Matt, Romey 1878 and Zoo 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cornish Steve Posted August 27, 2013 Report Share Posted August 27, 2013 Moyes put an early date on Fellaini's buy-out clause for a reason - to prevent just the scenario of a last day transfer. It looks like ManU will continue their strategy of submitting bids before games, which means not until Friday or Saturday. Indeed, this puts the squeeze on winning McCarthy. Frankly, if ManU don't complete a deal in the next day or two, we should not sell - at any price. That would be protecting the club in the spirit of the buy-out clause instituted by DM. He could have no cause to complain - but would anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gethinO Posted August 29, 2013 Report Share Posted August 29, 2013 Greg O'Keeffe reporting on twitter that "informal talks" have taken place over the sale of James McCarthy. Quinn31 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcirony Posted August 30, 2013 Report Share Posted August 30, 2013 Here's the blurb Geth.. @GregOK: Roberto Martinez tells @AHunterGuardian that informal talks between #efc and Wigan over James McCarthy have taken place Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted August 30, 2013 Report Share Posted August 30, 2013 Here's the blurb Geth.. @GregOK: Roberto Martinez tells @AHunterGuardian that informal talks between #efc and Wigan over James McCarthy have taken place Read, we have no money until we sell someone. Sad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcirony Posted August 30, 2013 Report Share Posted August 30, 2013 Read, we have no money until we sell someone. Sad. Sad. Yet unsurprising Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted August 30, 2013 Report Share Posted August 30, 2013 £15m is the touted figure, which is probably why we know that United need to cough up a combined £40m for baines and fellaini. £25m/£15m split. On the deck I believe McCarthy to be a better asset than Fellaini, he has a better range of passing, more mobile, more disciplined, more consistent. I think he reads the game better. What we lose is the physicality to hold off players, arial ability and the chest control.... But in all seriousness having a player with those attributes under martinez is as much use as a convertible in a monsoon. Sure we will be better armed to deal with the opposition hoofs up field but surely that doesn't warrant keeping a £25m asset for. I think we may come in with a supplemental centre mid to provide the means to:- Drop osman (sorry leon, you've been a great servant, but your legs have gone) Cover Gibson/provide competition for places allow us the adapt for physical teams I'm not an expert on 6ft 2 midfield destroyers, but maybe Barry is being brought in to alleviate the reliance on Osman and Gibson, whilst we can go after a young physical midfielder. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avinalaff Posted August 30, 2013 Report Share Posted August 30, 2013 £15m is the touted figure, which is probably why we know that United need to cough up a combined £40m for baines and fellaini. £25m/£15m split. On the deck I believe McCarthy to be a better asset than Fellaini, he has a better range of passing, more mobile, more disciplined, more consistent. I think he reads the game better. What we lose is the physicality to hold off players, arial ability and the chest control.... But in all seriousness having a player with those attributes under martinez is as much use as a convertible in a monsoon. Sure we will be better armed to deal with the opposition hoofs up field but surely that doesn't warrant keeping a £25m asset for. I think we may come in with a supplemental centre mid to provide the means to:- Drop osman (sorry leon, you've been a great servant, but your legs have gone) Cover Gibson/provide competition for places allow us the adapt for physical teams I'm not an expert on 6ft 2 midfield destroyers, but maybe Barry is being brought in to alleviate the reliance on Osman and Gibson, whilst we can go after a young physical midfielder. I think Fellaini offers much more than that Haf. Just because he's tall with big hair, people forget his skills with the ball. Mccarthy is not in his league mate in my opinion. Lowensda and Matt 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted August 30, 2013 Report Share Posted August 30, 2013 I think Fellaini offers much more than that Haf. Just because he's tall with big hair, people forget his skills with the ball. Mccarthy is not in his league mate in my opinion. To be honest Av, skills with the ball is something we don't really need nor associate with Felli, sure he does the odd pirouet etc, but for me his distribution and how he is often so easily dribbled past by mobile players means we can get mccarthy in who will improve on that. He gets dribbled past more than any other player at our club. For me anything further than a 10-15 yard pass represents a risk. I just think that Fellaini is a Moyes player through and through, which is why instead of busting a gut to get a more rounded ball playing midfielder that we could not attract (Ozil, Thiago) he has ended up with Fellaini as his remaining realistic target. He's a great signing for the right team, just like McCarthy will be. I do actually think McCarthy would be the better signing for the mancs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevO Posted August 30, 2013 Report Share Posted August 30, 2013 McCarthy and Holtby in midfield with Barkley infront? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lowensda Posted August 30, 2013 Report Share Posted August 30, 2013 McCarthy and Holtby in midfield with Barkley infront? Romey 1878, Sibdane and Matt 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marcopaulo Posted August 30, 2013 Report Share Posted August 30, 2013 won't happen but i would tickle myself Romey 1878 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevO Posted August 30, 2013 Report Share Posted August 30, 2013 J you just made me trip!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cornish Steve Posted August 30, 2013 Report Share Posted August 30, 2013 (edited) McCarthy and Holtby in midfield with Barkley infront? Add Moses upfront and Alderweireld at back (if not too late), and we'd have the makings of a good young team. I'd say it's more likely, though, that we're in for Marrone. Edited August 30, 2013 by Cornish Steve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sibdane Posted August 30, 2013 Report Share Posted August 30, 2013 (edited) Add Moses upfront and Alderweireld at back (if not too late), and we'd have the makings of a good young team. I'd say it's more likely, though, that we're in for Marrone. Why are you making me dream like this? This will never happen. I'd be happy with any combination of Moses, Holtby, McCarthy, Marrone, or Alderweireld. Edited August 30, 2013 by TonkaRoost Romey 1878 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted August 30, 2013 Report Share Posted August 30, 2013 McCarthy and Holtby in midfield with Barkley infront?i'll admit, a little sex wee escaped then.... Lowensda 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gethinO Posted August 30, 2013 Report Share Posted August 30, 2013 (edited) Howard Coleman Jagielka © Alderwield Baines Mirallas Holtby McCarthy Moses Barkley Jelavic Subs: Joel Distin Gibson Deulofeu Pienaar Osman Kone Squad Players: Anichebe, Naismith, Oviedo, Hibbert, Stones, Alcaraz, Heitinga, Vellios Wow! What a team and squad! We can dream lads!! Edited August 30, 2013 by Geth Matt and Sibdane 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted August 30, 2013 Report Share Posted August 30, 2013 Shame a dream is all it's likely to be . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gethinO Posted August 30, 2013 Report Share Posted August 30, 2013 I agree. If Fellaini leaves then I think it's a given we'll sign McCarthy. Moses is available and Holtby looks like he'll be on the bench mostly this season so I'm sure a decent offer would get him. What's frustrating is that all of these players are available on the cheap (in today's market) and we still can't afford them. I'm sure we could get Moses, Holtby and Alderwield for about 25 million. Pissing me off being skint all the time. Steve_E, Sibdane and Romey 1878 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sibdane Posted August 30, 2013 Report Share Posted August 30, 2013 Howard Coleman Jagielka © Alderwield Baines Mirallas Holtby McCarthy Moses Barkley Jelavic Subs: Joel Distin Gibson Deulofeu Pienaar Osman Kone Squad Players: Anichebe, Naismith, Oviedo, Hibbert, Stones, Alcaraz, Heitinga, Vellios Wow! What a team and squad! We can dream lads!! This would be my favorite squad in awhile. I like all these players. Just wow at all that potential. Now excuse me while I exhale and come back to reality. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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