Guest blueboy122 Posted February 19, 2014 Report Share Posted February 19, 2014 As a donation to scientific experiments? Ha exactly or useful to pull carts. Lukaku is fit just can't play against his parent club Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duncanmckenzieismagic Posted February 20, 2014 Report Share Posted February 20, 2014 Hooray Antilin is fit and all his injury problems are over ....... For this week Romey 1878 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oztoffee Posted April 20, 2014 Report Share Posted April 20, 2014 I thought that Alcaraz had a good game today despite his being on the bench for so long. Distin doesn't get injured that much so I'd basically forgotten that Alcaraz was still around. Yes he trains with the squad so he should slot in whenever necessary but being sharp enough and up to match speed sometimes takes time. I thought he fitted in well today. Matt 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cornish Steve Posted April 21, 2014 Report Share Posted April 21, 2014 I thought that Alcaraz had a good game today despite his being on the bench for so long. Distin doesn't get injured that much so I'd basically forgotten that Alcaraz was still around. Yes he trains with the squad so he should slot in whenever necessary but being sharp enough and up to match speed sometimes takes time. I thought he fitted in well today. Me too. He's a good player, and I get frustrated with all the jokes and bad-mouthing of him. EFC-Paul, Bailey and Matt 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markjazzbassist Posted April 21, 2014 Report Share Posted April 21, 2014 Me too. He's a good player, and I get frustrated with all the jokes and bad-mouthing of him. As do I. He's been great when fit and I hope this offseason will see him rejuvenated and ready to play a full season next year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted April 21, 2014 Report Share Posted April 21, 2014 Played great when he came on, slotted in seamlessly. I still hope it's not true that Distin will miss the rest of the season though, because you can't rely on Alcaraz to stay fit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted April 21, 2014 Report Share Posted April 21, 2014 He's a bit of a player and I said he would be a smart signing. When fit and required he's been very good. Effectively he is a swap for heitinga, a low maintenance player who knows he's a squad member. Gives a good presence in the air, comfortable on the ball. Yeah all the nay sayers seemed to have him judged before he had played. Good player, and good business. Kant and EFC-Paul 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete0 Posted April 21, 2014 Report Share Posted April 21, 2014 Prefer him and Stones ahead of the Jags-Distin partnership. Matt 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brett Angel Posted April 21, 2014 Report Share Posted April 21, 2014 I can't believe some people on these sites. I think he is technically a good CB but font tell me yous have already forgotton about the performance against the shite at anfield. You guys are so fickle it's untrue. He Haf a good game yesterday, partly down to playing against players that had played 45 minutes prior and down to the fact that not one man utd player ran behind our back four. I tell you now if this would have happened you would be typing a different post today. He read the game well that's all but he's got a long way to go to justify his signing. Matt, Toffee_in_LA and EFC-Paul 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted April 21, 2014 Report Share Posted April 21, 2014 I can't believe some people on these sites. I think he is technically a good CB but font tell me yous have already forgotton about the performance against the shite at anfield. You guys are so fickle it's untrue. He Haf a good game yesterday, partly down to playing against players that had played 45 minutes prior and down to the fact that not one man utd player ran behind our back four. I tell you now if this would have happened you would be typing a different post today. He read the game well that's all but he's got a long way to go to justify his signing. It's hardly fickle to say he had a good game when he did! How he played at Anfield is nothing to do with how he played yesterday, so why would that even come into the thinking when talking about how he performed against Manchester United? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EFC-Paul Posted April 21, 2014 Report Share Posted April 21, 2014 (edited) I can't believe some people on these sites. I think he is technically a good CB but font tell me yous have already forgotton about the performance against the shite at anfield. You guys are so fickle it's untrue. He Haf a good game yesterday, partly down to playing against players that had played 45 minutes prior and down to the fact that not one man utd player ran behind our back four. I tell you now if this would have happened you would be typing a different post today. He read the game well that's all but he's got a long way to go to justify his signing. It's the defenders job to make sure they never get a chance to run behind hence why they were caught out offside so many time due to good decision making , the rest of your post is just nonsense and irrelevant and there's no need for the mindless labeling...... I personally think he's a cracking player great at slowing the game down calm and very astute on the ball and if not for the injury problems in my eyes he'd have probably cemented himself in the starting eleven. Edited April 21, 2014 by EFC-Paul Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
London Blue Posted April 21, 2014 Report Share Posted April 21, 2014 (edited) I can't believe some people on these sites. I think he is technically a good CB but font tell me yous have already forgotton about the performance against the shite at anfield. You guys are so fickle it's untrue. He Haf a good game yesterday, partly down to playing against players that had played 45 minutes prior and down to the fact that not one man utd player ran behind our back four. I tell you now if this would have happened you would be typing a different post today. He read the game well that's all but he's got a long way to go to justify his signing. He had a poor game at Anfield, as did allot of our players, and like a few of our players he was not match fit, which contributed to the teams poor showing. As a defender he is great at reading the game, he always seems to be in the right place at the right time, and always seems to have time, qualities that are very desirable. And as Martinez rates him and trusts him then so do I. Also he cost us nothing as he was signed on a free. Edited April 21, 2014 by London Blue Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted April 21, 2014 Report Share Posted April 21, 2014 (edited) I can't believe some people on these sites. I think he is technically a good CB but font tell me yous have already forgotton about the performance against the shite at anfield. You guys are so fickle it's untrue. He Haf a good game yesterday, partly down to playing against players that had played 45 minutes prior and down to the fact that not one man utd player ran behind our back four. I tell you now if this would have happened you would be typing a different post today. He read the game well that's all but he's got a long way to go to justify his signing. Long way to go to justify his signing??? What did you want, Wigan to pay us to have him? He cost nothing, is on 20k a week and is a decent centre half. He had to get rushed back in against Liverpool. Let's face it, it's not like their forward line haven't destroyed other defences. I seem to recall stones got a good old slating off you for that game, talk about fickle... Edited April 21, 2014 by Hafnia Quinn31 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NyarkosLeftToe Posted April 21, 2014 Report Share Posted April 21, 2014 Alcaraz is decent, made up we've got him, brilliant squad player to have and alot better than Jonny H on the ball. Our defence is fuckin boss to be fair! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted April 21, 2014 Report Share Posted April 21, 2014 I loved the way he looked waiting to come on... Cool as fuck. He doesn't flap, is very good in the air and times tackles well. A free player to boot... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brett Angel Posted April 21, 2014 Report Share Posted April 21, 2014 Long way to go to justify his signing??? What did you want, Wigan to pay us to have him? He cost nothing, is on 20k a week and is a decent centre half. He had to get rushed back in against Liverpool. Let's face it, it's not like their forward line haven't destroyed other defences. I seem to recall stones got a good old slating off you for that game, talk about fickle... The differedifference being haf is stones had a bad game cause he played RB.don't know where he got that position from buy he always has and always will be a CB. Alcaraz played in his preferred position and was found wanting on every occasion. Don't get me wrong I don't think he's a bad player but I'm laughing at the amount of posts stating they prefer him and stones to distin and Jags. Leave it out will ya. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
efc1111 Posted April 21, 2014 Report Share Posted April 21, 2014 The differedifference being haf is stones had a bad game cause he played RB.don't know where he got that position from buy he always has and always will be a CB. Alcaraz played in his preferred position and was found wanting on every occasion. Don't get me wrong I don't think he's a bad player but I'm laughing at the amount of posts stating they prefer him and stones to distin and Jags. Leave it out will ya. I don't think it's fair to judge him purely on the derby, when he was rushed back from injury. In the back-to-back games he played he looked class, as he did again yesterday. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duncanmckenzieismagic Posted April 21, 2014 Report Share Posted April 21, 2014 He's a bit of a player and I said he would be a smart signing. When fit and required he's been very good. Effectively he is a swap for heitinga, a low maintenance player who knows he's a squad member. Gives a good presence in the air, comfortable on the ball. Yeah all the nay sayers seemed to have him judged before he had played. Good player, and good business. Decent enough player and had he been available for selection most games 20k a week would mean it was good business however given his injury record it works out closer to 160k a game which isn't such good business Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue 250 Posted April 21, 2014 Report Share Posted April 21, 2014 I think he has to start every game! Why..........because he actually got on the end of a couple of corner kicks........who knows, couple of weeks time we might actually score from a corner. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted April 21, 2014 Report Share Posted April 21, 2014 Decent enough player and had he been available for selection most games 20k a week would mean it was good business however given his injury record it works out closer to 160k a game which isn't such good business Whereas heitinga as a 1 in 5 squad player cost 350k per game. The likes of Duffy, mcaleny will be on 5k a week. It's a no brainer, alacaraz will be cover and even if he does pick up the odd injury, it's not an issue. Some people behave like he's kolo toure on 80k a week. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duncanmckenzieismagic Posted April 21, 2014 Report Share Posted April 21, 2014 Whereas heitinga as a 1 in 5 squad player cost 350k per game. The likes of Duffy, mcaleny will be on 5k a week. It's a no brainer, alacaraz will be cover and even if he does pick up the odd injury, it's not an issue. Some people behave like he's kolo toure on 80k a week. What Hietinga, Duffy or Mcalaney are on is irrelevant my point is that Alcaraz is too injury prone to be considered as a good bit of business Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted April 21, 2014 Report Share Posted April 21, 2014 What Hietinga, Duffy or Mcalaney are on is irrelevant my point is that Alcaraz is too injury prone to be considered as a good bit of business He cost nothing. He is on a low wage. He's been fit since February..... Unless you are saying we signed a 10m, 100k a week centre half who is meant to be a first name on team sheet then I really can't see the issue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quinn31 Posted April 21, 2014 Report Share Posted April 21, 2014 Let's see what Alcaraz does next year before judging him. He's a good enough player, but hasn't been fit enough. If he can get fit more often, he's a great squad player to have. Matt 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duncanmckenzieismagic Posted April 22, 2014 Report Share Posted April 22, 2014 Let's see what Alcaraz does next year before judging him. He's a good enough player, but hasn't been fit enough. If he can get fit more often, he's a great squad player to have. Totally agree with what your saying but IMO his record to date means you cant really say he has been good business Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted April 22, 2014 Report Share Posted April 22, 2014 He's been fit since February Probably because he hasn't played since February . There's no doubt he's got the quality, he's shown that time and time again, but to be seen as a good squad player he has to be available at all times. I dread to think what our defensive record would have been like if Jags and Distin had spent a significant time out at the same time because we'd probably have had to rely on Hibbert to play alongside Stones a lot! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevO Posted April 22, 2014 Report Share Posted April 22, 2014 Was good against United, barely broke a sweat. If he could stay fit he'd be great, the same as Gibson, but thats the problem. Matt, Sibdane and Romey 1878 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailey Posted April 22, 2014 Report Share Posted April 22, 2014 I can't believe some people on these sites. I think he is technically a good CB but font tell me yous have already forgotton about the performance against the shite at anfield. You guys are so fickle it's untrue. He Haf a good game yesterday, partly down to playing against players that had played 45 minutes prior and down to the fact that not one man utd player ran behind our back four. I tell you now if this would have happened you would be typing a different post today. He read the game well that's all but he's got a long way to go to justify his signing. The differedifference being haf is stones had a bad game cause he played RB.don't know where he got that position from buy he always has and always will be a CB. Alcaraz played in his preferred position and was found wanting on every occasion. Don't get me wrong I don't think he's a bad player but I'm laughing at the amount of posts stating they prefer him and stones to distin and Jags. Leave it out will ya. Surely its fickle to slag Alcaraz off for having one poor game when he has been excellent in every other match he has played in an Everton shirt. Not to mention that in the game in question he was left pretty exposed given how we played and the captain alongside him was an absolute shambles as well. I think our best CB pairing has probably been Stones & Distin all things considered. Not saying they have been faultless but they are improving all the time from a slightly rocky start, especially as Stones has started to believe he is a first team regular. What Hietinga, Duffy or Mcalaney are on is irrelevant my point is that Alcaraz is too injury prone to be considered as a good bit of business You just used the games Alcaraz has played in and not the ones he has been fit but not in the 11 (albeit there arent a huge amount). Alcaraz has come in and done what we needed him to do when he has been called upon. Its shame he has been injured, but to get a guy of that experience and footballing ability for no fee and low wages is very rare in football these days. We could have pissed £14mil and £75k a week up the wall for Sakho for example! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted May 29, 2014 Report Share Posted May 29, 2014 http://www.football365.com/everton/9329678/Alcaraz-Last-season-was-tough Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lowensda Posted May 29, 2014 Report Share Posted May 29, 2014 "Everton defender Antolin Alcaraz has likened his injury-plagued first season at the club to being in prison" Does that make Distin the Purple Aki of footballers? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted May 29, 2014 Report Share Posted May 29, 2014 (edited) "Everton defender Antolin Alcaraz has likened his injury-plagued first season at the club to being in prison" Does that make Distin the Purple Aki of footballers? Alcaraz Prison, boom boom! - he's a funny guy is Antolin Edited May 29, 2014 by Hafnia Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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