Hafnia Posted July 25, 2023 Report Share Posted July 25, 2023 4 hours ago, duncanmckenzieismagic said: https://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/everton-problem-brutally-exposed-678m-27382177 It’s a good job bill was there to oversee the running of the club and keep things stable……….. Newty82 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palfy Posted July 25, 2023 Report Share Posted July 25, 2023 The ramifications of this mismanagement are going to be felt for a few years to come, and we may not even be at the bottom of this if FFP hearing doesn’t go our way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RuffRob Posted July 26, 2023 Report Share Posted July 26, 2023 I do actually have a degree of sympathy for Moshiri - he has actually been very good at putting money in to the club and has come up trumps with the new stadium, after decades of thinking about it. I do believe he has done things with good intentions. But the execution has been diabolical and a lesson in how not to run a football club. How much of this was Usmananov behind the scene we will never know - a case of maybe too many cooks spoiling the broth. Moshiri-Kenwright-Usmananov has just turned out to be a complete car crash. The ban on Russia money has really his us hard this past 12 months with drop in sponsorships etc we had , but ultimately in the longer run I think getting away from the Usmananov influence will be a blessing in discuses. I think plenty of our problems actually lead back to him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted July 26, 2023 Report Share Posted July 26, 2023 1 hour ago, RuffRob said: I do actually have a degree of sympathy for Moshiri - he has actually been very good at putting money in to the club and has come up trumps with the new stadium, after decades of thinking about it. I do believe he has done things with good intentions. But the execution has been diabolical and a lesson in how not to run a football club. How much of this was Usmananov behind the scene we will never know - a case of maybe too many cooks spoiling the broth. Moshiri-Kenwright-Usmananov has just turned out to be a complete car crash. The ban on Russia money has really his us hard this past 12 months with drop in sponsorships etc we had , but ultimately in the longer run I think getting away from the Usmananov influence will be a blessing in discuses. I think plenty of our problems actually lead back to him. Moshiri came in with a wedge of money. He sat in on a board of kenwright sycophants and a club structured not on ability to do a good job and challenge things that aren’t good - but to create excuses and cover arses and crush anything that challenges them. moshiri has his way of operating which clearly involves agents like Kia, but he has likely gone that way cos he had no faith in the numskulls that bill had in place. kenwright and his cronies should have gone a long time ago and moshiri been guided by people who are strong and competent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post StevO Posted July 26, 2023 Popular Post Report Share Posted July 26, 2023 8 hours ago, RuffRob said: I do actually have a degree of sympathy for Moshiri - he has actually been very good at putting money in to the club and has come up trumps with the new stadium, after decades of thinking about it. I do believe he has done things with good intentions. But the execution has been diabolical and a lesson in how not to run a football club. How much of this was Usmananov behind the scene we will never know - a case of maybe too many cooks spoiling the broth. Moshiri-Kenwright-Usmananov has just turned out to be a complete car crash. The ban on Russia money has really his us hard this past 12 months with drop in sponsorships etc we had , but ultimately in the longer run I think getting away from the Usmananov influence will be a blessing in discuses. I think plenty of our problems actually lead back to him. Billionaires run their businesses very professionally, hiring people to do the bits they can’t do them selves. Then they have a hobby, and want to do the fun stuff themselves. Like signing players and showing their faces when things go well. Unfortunately, most hobbyists aren’t very good at it. These guys are no different. No one feels sorry for me when I miss a two foot putt, don’t feel sorry for a billionaire for messing up his hobby too. Matt, Palfy, Romey 1878 and 3 others 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palfy Posted July 26, 2023 Report Share Posted July 26, 2023 27 minutes ago, StevO said: Billionaires run their businesses very professionally, hiring people to do the bits they can’t do them selves. Then they have a hobby, and want to do the fun stuff themselves. Like signing players and showing their faces when things go well. Unfortunately, most hobbyists aren’t very good at it. These guys are no different. No one feels sorry for me when I miss a two foot putt, don’t feel sorry for a billionaire for messing up his hobby too. I’d feel for you if you missed a two foot putt mate I know what it’s like been there many times myself. StevO and Newty82 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted July 31, 2023 Report Share Posted July 31, 2023 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trigger Posted July 31, 2023 Report Share Posted July 31, 2023 1 hour ago, Romey 1878 said: 48 hours? MikeO 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted August 9, 2023 Report Share Posted August 9, 2023 Shit flying round that 777 are back and are going to buy Moshiri out in full. Matt 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
London Blue Posted August 9, 2023 Report Share Posted August 9, 2023 35 minutes ago, Romey 1878 said: Shit flying round that 777 are back and are going to buy Moshiri out in full. Where? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newty82 Posted August 9, 2023 Report Share Posted August 9, 2023 Christ. Forgot all about this investment malarkey. Did it all go quiet? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted August 9, 2023 Report Share Posted August 9, 2023 1 hour ago, London Blue said: Where? The Esk. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevO Posted August 9, 2023 Report Share Posted August 9, 2023 1 hour ago, Newty82 said: Christ. Forgot all about this investment malarkey. Did it all go quiet? That’s what Bill wanted to happen! Forget all about it, move on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted August 12, 2023 Report Share Posted August 12, 2023 StevO 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duncanmckenzieismagic Posted August 17, 2023 Report Share Posted August 17, 2023 https://inews.co.uk/sport/football/everton-takeover-investors-excited-club-untapped-potential-todd-boehly-2553906 StevO and Romey 1878 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted August 17, 2023 Report Share Posted August 17, 2023 16 minutes ago, duncanmckenzieismagic said: https://inews.co.uk/sport/football/everton-takeover-investors-excited-club-untapped-potential-todd-boehly-2553906 Much better. duncanmckenzieismagic 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trigger Posted August 17, 2023 Report Share Posted August 17, 2023 2 hours ago, Romey 1878 said: Much better. Is it? And I'm not saying that it is or it isn't. If I read the article correctly they want to be prudent with money. It said they want expand commercial revenue especially match day revenue in line with new stadium as opposed to them forward investing like Todd Boehy. So, I read this as.... we will charge more for season tickets, food, drinks and everything associated with match day spending. I.e. we want the fan base to be our funding engine and spend what we collect from them. That way as investors we don't have to risk lots of our own money . I think this is sound running of a business, but is this the way to get Everton back in to Europe and a regular top 6 team? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
patto Posted August 17, 2023 Report Share Posted August 17, 2023 5 minutes ago, Trigger said: Is it? And I'm not saying that it is or it isn't. If I read the article correctly they want to be prudent with money. It said they want expand commercial revenue especially match day revenue in line with new stadium as opposed to them forward investing like Todd Boehy. So, I read this as.... we will charge more for season tickets, food, drinks and everything associated with match day spending. I.e. we want the fan base to be our funding engine and spend what we collect from them. That way as investors we don't have to risk lots of our own money . I think this is sound running of a business, but is this the way to get Everton back in to Europe and a regular top 6 team? Didn’t expect anything different really we will end up with prices equivalent to Anfield it was always going to happen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevO Posted August 17, 2023 Report Share Posted August 17, 2023 7 minutes ago, Trigger said: Is it? And I'm not saying that it is or it isn't. If I read the article correctly they want to be prudent with money. It said they want expand commercial revenue especially match day revenue in line with new stadium as opposed to them forward investing like Todd Boehy. So, I read this as.... we will charge more for season tickets, food, drinks and everything associated with match day spending. I.e. we want the fan base to be our funding engine and spend what we collect from them. That way as investors we don't have to risk lots of our own money . I think this is sound running of a business, but is this the way to get Everton back in to Europe and a regular top 6 team? I have no problem with that. We need the club to be run without investors constantly pumping money in. I don’t want my season ticket price to go up, but it’s going to anyway. We currently outsource our catering to Sudexo, so any increases of food and drink will be for them, unless we get a new deal in place (likely due to the various offerings at BMD). Most of all, the finding engine is tv rights. The money made from fans is a fraction of the clubs turnover. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted August 17, 2023 Report Share Posted August 17, 2023 20 minutes ago, Trigger said: Is it? And I'm not saying that it is or it isn't. If I read the article correctly they want to be prudent with money. It said they want expand commercial revenue especially match day revenue in line with new stadium as opposed to them forward investing like Todd Boehy. So, I read this as.... we will charge more for season tickets, food, drinks and everything associated with match day spending. I.e. we want the fan base to be our funding engine and spend what we collect from them. That way as investors we don't have to risk lots of our own money . I think this is sound running of a business, but is this the way to get Everton back in to Europe and a regular top 6 team? It’s better than being linked to a group under investigation the US, yes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duncanmckenzieismagic Posted August 17, 2023 Report Share Posted August 17, 2023 5 minutes ago, Romey 1878 said: It’s better than being linked to a group under investigation the US, yes. Lol I read it as you were saying it was a better post after threatening to ban me for the Onana to The Shite link Romey 1878, Matt and Newty82 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted August 17, 2023 Report Share Posted August 17, 2023 25 minutes ago, duncanmckenzieismagic said: Lol I read it as you were saying it was a better post after threatening to ban me for the Onana to The Shite link I did mean that as well tbh . Thought I’d kill two birds with one stone. duncanmckenzieismagic 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newty82 Posted August 17, 2023 Report Share Posted August 17, 2023 49 minutes ago, duncanmckenzieismagic said: Lol I read it as you were saying it was a better post after threatening to ban me for the Onana to The Shite link Same Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted August 20, 2023 Report Share Posted August 20, 2023 Considering Billy Bullshit was kept on because of how valuable he'd be during the transfer window I'm expecting a big 11 days from him. Unless they meant that we'd be selling him to Chelsea. plaidharper, Matt and StevO 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goodison Glory Posted August 21, 2023 Report Share Posted August 21, 2023 And then to be gone right after the window....fat chance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted August 23, 2023 Report Share Posted August 23, 2023 This is all starting to get the whiff of the Fortress Sports Fund, a means to an end. StevO and Newty82 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KinL Posted August 23, 2023 Report Share Posted August 23, 2023 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted August 23, 2023 Report Share Posted August 23, 2023 18 minutes ago, KinL said: He was also very often drunk, so I'd take that with a pinch of salt Romey 1878, Palfy and KinL 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted August 23, 2023 Report Share Posted August 23, 2023 15 minutes ago, Matt said: He was also very often drunk, so I'd take that with a pinch of salt I'd take it with a Siberian salt mine. Matt, KinL and Palfy 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KinL Posted August 23, 2023 Report Share Posted August 23, 2023 31 minutes ago, MikeO said: I'd take it with a Siberian salt mine. Are you both saying there's a slight possibility it's not true? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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