Sibdane Posted August 31, 2016 Report Share Posted August 31, 2016 I can't take this anymore. Romey 1878 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
London Blue Posted August 31, 2016 Report Share Posted August 31, 2016 AAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH markjazzbassist, Romey 1878 and chicagoblue 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted August 31, 2016 Report Share Posted August 31, 2016 Fucking knobs. Sibdane 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markjazzbassist Posted August 31, 2016 Report Share Posted August 31, 2016 They will let Brahimi go (or something to that effect) who is that person on twitter? a journo? credible? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter H Posted August 31, 2016 Report Share Posted August 31, 2016 who is that person on twitter? a journo? credible? No idea but his feed consists of around 90% tweets about football Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghoat Posted August 31, 2016 Report Share Posted August 31, 2016 which i believe is 5pm for you and i Tonks. you misspelled "Beer-thirty" Sibdane 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chicagoblue Posted August 31, 2016 Report Share Posted August 31, 2016 you misspelled "Beer-thirty o'clock" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cornish Steve Posted August 31, 2016 Report Share Posted August 31, 2016 At what time was the original Lukaku loan deal announced? About five minutes 'til, if I remember correctly. It's now five 'til. Why give up hope? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve_E Posted August 31, 2016 Report Share Posted August 31, 2016 https://twitter.com/dzlyes10/status/771083470739214336 They will let Brahimi go (or something to that effect) 'Pas' means 'not'. They don't want to let him leave. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lowensda Posted August 31, 2016 Report Share Posted August 31, 2016 (edited) This one could have seen him as our Mahrez, Payet, Silva, Erikssen. Still we wait. Edited August 31, 2016 by Lowensda Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gethinO Posted August 31, 2016 Report Share Posted August 31, 2016 Another farce. Why didn't we just pay what they wanted? Left it too late again and by January he'll be a target for other clubs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duncanmckenzieismagic Posted September 1, 2016 Author Report Share Posted September 1, 2016 Another farce. Why didn't we just pay what they wanted? Left it too late again and by January he'll be a target for other clubs. Because they were taking the piss asking for €50M . Gutted we never got him but the club did the right thing walking away from this Matt and Lowensda 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted September 1, 2016 Report Share Posted September 1, 2016 too many fans acting like spoilt kids at Christmas. Go back a few years when we overspent and left ourselves in debt. Moshiri isn't a sugar daddy - he is here to set up the club to be self sustainable and to operate within the FFP by increasing commercial revenue - to underwrite a stadium development which in turn will allow us to operate on bigger budgets. Matt 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shukes Posted September 1, 2016 Report Share Posted September 1, 2016 too many fans acting like spoilt kids at Christmas. Go back a few years when we overspent and left ourselves in debt. Moshiri isn't a sugar daddy - he is here to set up the club to be self sustainable and to operate within the FFP by increasing commercial revenue - to underwrite a stadium development which in turn will allow us to operate on bigger budgets. Stayed out of it due to thinking the same. He is a business man and can see past the tunnel vision. We are stronger now than anytime in the last ten years in my opinion. Let's see how we push on and see what he can do in January. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lowensda Posted September 1, 2016 Report Share Posted September 1, 2016 Stayed out of it due to thinking the same. He is a business man and can see past the tunnel vision. We are stronger now than anytime in the last ten years in my opinion. Let's see how we push on and see what he can do in January. That MIGHT be the case, but those around us are also stronger than ever. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted September 1, 2016 Report Share Posted September 1, 2016 That MIGHT be the case, but those around us are also stronger than ever. That same argument is used every year... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted September 1, 2016 Report Share Posted September 1, 2016 That same argument is used every year... And certainly came to pass in the last 2 years as we finished 11th, while the likes of Southampton and West Ham finished above us. Lets hope we fix that this season. Sibdane 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duncanmckenzieismagic Posted September 1, 2016 Author Report Share Posted September 1, 2016 too many fans acting like spoilt kids at Christmas. Go back a few years when we overspent and left ourselves in debt. Moshiri isn't a sugar daddy - he is here to set up the club to be self sustainable and to operate within the FFP by increasing commercial revenue - to underwrite a stadium development which in turn will allow us to operate on bigger budgets. Totally agree, I'm as frustrated and disappointed as the next Evertonian but we need some perspective here . As peteO eluded to we have come out of the window stronger than we went in to it so it has not been that bad, underwhelming maybe disastrous definitely not Some agents/players have definitely used the club as a bargaining chip and there isn't much the club could have done about that but we definitely shouldn't be going around throwing ridiculous money at clubs for players that are simply not worth it just to appease some of our fans nutmegwolf203, Matt and Hafnia 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smeghead1 Posted September 1, 2016 Report Share Posted September 1, 2016 Another farce. Why didn't we just pay what they wanted? Left it too late again and by January he'll be a target for other clubs. Reported today they decided they wanted 50 million Euros instead of the already agreed 40 million. I'm gutted we never signed him but every player has their ceiling price and obviously we weren't prepared to go that high. Being held to ransom by the sounds of things. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted September 1, 2016 Report Share Posted September 1, 2016 Totally agree, I'm as frustrated and disappointed as the next Evertonian but we need some perspective here . As peteO eluded to we have come out of the window stronger than we went in to it so it has not been that bad, underwhelming maybe disastrous definitely not Some agents/players have definitely used the club as a bargaining chip and there isn't much the club could have done about that but we definitely shouldn't be going around throwing ridiculous money at clubs for players that are simply not worth it just to appease some of our fans Reported today they decided they wanted 50 million Euros instead of the already agreed 40 million. I'm gutted we never signed him but every player has their ceiling price and obviously we weren't prepared to go that high. Being held to ransom by the sounds of things. This is what I am talking about. Transfer deadline day is a farce - clubs across Europe have been looking enviously at the cash in our league and have been ridiculous..... they have tried it on big time. Ashley at Newcastle has done the same - out of pocket now he's in the championship. we spent big on bolassie and some fans moaned, we only spent £7m on gueye and fans moaned. Its like kids at Christmas - they want big names so they can boast. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted September 1, 2016 Report Share Posted September 1, 2016 And certainly came to pass in the last 2 years as we finished 11th, while the likes of Southampton and West Ham finished above us. Lets hope we fix that this season. To be honest, that was more down to our self-destructive manager than them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lowensda Posted September 1, 2016 Report Share Posted September 1, 2016 That same argument is used every year... And certainly came to pass in the last 2 years as we finished 11th, while the likes of Southampton and West Ham finished above us. Lets hope we fix that this season. What Mark said. See how we get on this year then. Let's hope the likes of Leicester, Stoke, Southampton, West Ham don't finish above us this year. Otherwise I'm going to ...your ass MO FO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shukes Posted September 1, 2016 Report Share Posted September 1, 2016 If we finish tenth am I allowed to say it's progress? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lowensda Posted September 1, 2016 Report Share Posted September 1, 2016 If we finish tenth am I allowed to say it's progress? Technically, yes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cornish Steve Posted September 1, 2016 Report Share Posted September 1, 2016 Totally agree, I'm as frustrated and disappointed as the next Evertonian but we need some perspective here . As peteO eluded to we have come out of the window stronger than we went in to it so it has not been that bad, underwhelming maybe disastrous definitely not Some agents/players have definitely used the club as a bargaining chip and there isn't much the club could have done about that but we definitely shouldn't be going around throwing ridiculous money at clubs for players that are simply not worth it just to appease some of our fans Oh yes there is! We ensure our negotiators know their stuff and are not amateurs. Then we'd be "using" other clubs to our advantage. Matt 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duncanmckenzieismagic Posted September 1, 2016 Author Report Share Posted September 1, 2016 Oh yes there is! We ensure our negotiators know their stuff and are not amateurs. Then we'd be "using" other clubs to our advantage. Really? So in the case of Sissoko, when his representatives contacted the club and said he wanted to come to Everton , should we have just said fuck off we don't believe you? Romey 1878 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trigger Posted September 1, 2016 Report Share Posted September 1, 2016 Really?So in the case of Sissoko, when his representatives contacted the club and said he wanted to come to Everton , should we have just said fuck off we don't believe you? Add to this that you cannot talk directly to the player until you have clubs permission. The way this unfolded seem to be with only a few hours left in the window. 1) Sissoko agent contacts Everton and outlines the deal needed to close quickly. 2) Outlines Personal Terms (probably what was already agreed with Spurs) and is probably agreed first. 3) Transfer fee was the Issue as Spurs will not offer £30m needed, so Everton you will need to contact Mr. Ashley (or whoever) and state you agree to the fee. 4) Once you've agreed with Mr. Ashley let me know and I'll give you Mr. Sissoko's phone number for you to talk directly. In the meantime Spurs have been back in touch to say don't sign anything we going to agree the fee. Personally I don't think any negotiating professional would have avoided this. The 2 outcomes regardless would have been either. 1) Say "not interested" and either Sissoko would still be at NUFC or at Spurs for less than £30m 2) Get Involved and Spurs cave in to pay the full £30m To be honest I'm happy we got involved as we got a Peer football club to pay more than they wanted to for a player. That gives them less money to spend because of us! That's still a win in my book! That and I think we can spend £30m more wisely. Romey 1878 and MikeO 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted September 1, 2016 Report Share Posted September 1, 2016 Really? So in the case of Sissoko, when his representatives contacted the club and said he wanted to come to Everton , should we have just said fuck off we don't believe you? ideally, would've saved us a lot of time to concentrate elsewhere Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markjazzbassist Posted September 1, 2016 Report Share Posted September 1, 2016 I'm glad we passed. I've done some reading and he only plays well when he's trying to get a move or has just secured a move. After a season his production suffers and he wants out. Wasn't even a worldie in the Portuguese league, so glad we passed at 50m euros. These other leagues are trying to skin is on these transfers with all this money. Walsh will have to be smart to find the cheap buys. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duncanmckenzieismagic Posted September 1, 2016 Author Report Share Posted September 1, 2016 ideally, would've saved us a lot of time to concentrate elsewhere On who and how would the negotiators be certain it wouldn't have the same outcome? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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