Hafnia Posted July 27, 2015 Report Share Posted July 27, 2015 how do the press "know" this.... clearly there is someone in chelsea leaking their intentions to the media. Scummy behaviour, love it if they got a ban of some sort - sadly they have got enough quality for it not to bother them too much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lowensda Posted July 27, 2015 Report Share Posted July 27, 2015 http://www.theguardian.com/football/2015/jul/26/chelsea-26m-everton-john-stones-bid Keep walking, arseholes. That's the deposit. The following 80% must be paid by August 1st. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
captainbeaker Posted July 27, 2015 Report Share Posted July 27, 2015 Maybe we'll get Hernandez, Young, Evans and Blackett plus 20 million. I can see it being evans and money, at least he'll get a centre back in plus money to strengthen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RampageJohnson Posted July 27, 2015 Report Share Posted July 27, 2015 If we sell Stones we could sign that bournmouth defender, is it Distan on loan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lowensda Posted July 28, 2015 Report Share Posted July 28, 2015 http://www.skysports.com/football/news/11095/9927218/sylvain-distin-tips-john-stones-for-move-to-big-club?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted July 28, 2015 Report Share Posted July 28, 2015 little veiled dig there by Sylvain - not needed. He had a good time at Everton - we were a big enough club to pay him £60k a week. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lowensda Posted July 28, 2015 Report Share Posted July 28, 2015 little veiled dig there by Sylvain - not needed. He had a good time at Everton - we were a big enough club to pay him £60k a week. It does seem like that. However I now see all this press as an opportunity to ask for more and more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted July 28, 2015 Report Share Posted July 28, 2015 It does seem like that. However I now see all this press as an opportunity to ask for more and more. Sylvain needs to remember how this little club could have got into an FA Cup final to play the supposed big club if he didnt play Luis Suarez through to get Liverpool into the game when they looked beaten. Petulent man. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quinn31 Posted July 28, 2015 Report Share Posted July 28, 2015 I have no problem with what he said. Romey 1878 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted July 28, 2015 Report Share Posted July 28, 2015 I have no problem with what he said. Neither do I. I don't think he said it in a disrespectful way at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seve Posted July 28, 2015 Report Share Posted July 28, 2015 I have no problem with what he said. I think he got a raw deal from a clueless manager he gave us excellent service for no money and yet was cast into the reserves by a manger who can not spell defence never mind organise one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted July 28, 2015 Report Share Posted July 28, 2015 I think he got a raw deal from a clueless manager he gave us excellent service for no money and yet was cast into the reserves by a manger who can not spell defence never mind organise one. No money ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seve Posted July 28, 2015 Report Share Posted July 28, 2015 No money ? was he not a free transfer or very little ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted July 28, 2015 Report Share Posted July 28, 2015 was he not a free transfer or very little ? £5m. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seve Posted July 28, 2015 Report Share Posted July 28, 2015 £5m. Like I said very little for 5 + years as a very solid defender Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted July 28, 2015 Report Share Posted July 28, 2015 Like I said very little for 5 + years as a very solid defender £5m was very high for a "solid" defender in his thirties five years ago. Think virtually everyone thought it was a bad move at the time. We also paid him handsomely, which was why I think, "he gave us excellent service for no money" is a hell of a stretch. And he stopped playing for the first team because he wasn't good enough any more. He was dropped, happens to players all the time. Romey 1878 and Lowensda 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EFC-Paul Posted July 28, 2015 Report Share Posted July 28, 2015 I watched the interview earlier today before I read the link on here and he didn't seem to say anything in a disrespectful way he basically said what most of us would if honestly asked We are by no means a small club but we are by no means in todays world where money and trophies talk a big club either historically fan base wise etc we are to an extent but in truth what he said is right Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marcopaulo Posted July 28, 2015 Report Share Posted July 28, 2015 £5m was very high for a "solid" defender in his thirties five years ago. Think virtually everyone thought it was a bad move at the time. We also paid him handsomely, which was why I think, "he gave us excellent service for no money" is a hell of a stretch. And he stopped playing for the first team because he wasn't good enough any more. He was dropped, happens to players all the time. Agreed..The guy is is a physical freak but was always gonna get to the day when he wasn't first choice Does seem a decent bloke though so I don't think it would have been disrespectful...it's true for starters Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shukes Posted July 28, 2015 Report Share Posted July 28, 2015 £5m was very high for a "solid" defender in his thirties five years ago. Think virtually everyone thought it was a bad move at the time. We also paid him handsomely, which was why I think, "he gave us excellent service for no money" is a hell of a stretch. And he stopped playing for the first team because he wasn't good enough any more. He was dropped, happens to players all the time. This. By the time he was dropped he simply wasn't good enough for the first team anymore. A clueless manager would have kept him in the team based on past performances. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter H Posted July 28, 2015 Report Share Posted July 28, 2015 Getting bored with the "Martinez dont know this and that crowd". When i talk to any football fan, regardless of which club they support, they all seem to think that we have a great manager in RM. I agree 100% He dropped Distin when he wasnt good enough to play. Who should he have been on instead of? Stones or Jags? A fit Alcaraz was the better option too. Distin looked really shaky last season. One of the reasons that we got such a poor start and lost so much confidence in the back four. He was a really good Everton player before that but was left wanting last season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markiediow Posted July 28, 2015 Report Share Posted July 28, 2015 Getting bored with the "Martinez dont know this and that crowd". When i talk to any football fan, regardless of which club they support, they all seem to think that we have a great manager in RM. I agree 100% He dropped Distin when he wasnt good enough to play. Who should he have been on instead of? Stones or Jags? A fit Alcaraz was the better option too. Distin looked really shaky last season. One of the reasons that we got such a poor start and lost so much confidence in the back four. He was a really good Everton player before that but was left wanting last season. I thought it should have been Jags dropped at the time when Distin was dropped. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter H Posted July 28, 2015 Report Share Posted July 28, 2015 Both of them had a very shaky season imo. Jags improved a ton after the Liverpool game. That goal gave him a lof of confidence back Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter H Posted July 28, 2015 Report Share Posted July 28, 2015 http://youtu.be/p_q8wWBoGvs Just had to post it. One of few highlights markjazzbassist and Btay 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lowensda Posted July 28, 2015 Report Share Posted July 28, 2015 Getting bored with the "Martinez dont know this and that crowd". When i talk to any football fan, regardless of which club they support, they all seem to think that we have a great manager in RM. I agree 100% He dropped Distin when he wasnt good enough to play. Who should he have been on instead of? Stones or Jags? A fit Alcaraz was the better option too. Distin looked really shaky last season. One of the reasons that we got such a poor start and lost so much confidence in the back four. He was a really good Everton player before that but was left wanting last season. Then why does he persist with players like Kone, McGeady, Barry? When they've all had horrors the year just gone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quinn31 Posted July 28, 2015 Report Share Posted July 28, 2015 Neither do I. I don't think he said it in a disrespectful way at all. He said on Twitter that he didn't mean any disrespect by it. I think he meant to compliment Stones more than take a dig at Everton. I'll believe him because I think he's an honest guy and I don't see the point in getting angry over nothing. I think he got a raw deal from a clueless manager he gave us excellent service for no money and yet was cast into the reserves by a manger who can not spell defence never mind organise one. Yeah, not sure why he got cast into the reserves. It's a shame he clearly has lost a bit of ability over the past year or so because I had always wondered if he'd be wearing our shirt at age 40! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted July 28, 2015 Report Share Posted July 28, 2015 Then why does he persist with players like Kone, McGeady, Barry? When they've all had horrors the year just gone. I'll give you Barry but Kone barely plays and McGeady only started ten league games last season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lowensda Posted July 28, 2015 Report Share Posted July 28, 2015 I'll give you Barry but Kone barely plays and McGeady only started ten league games last season. But Kone's getting game time in pre-season. Alot more game time than Connor Mac, who was excellent in the Swindon Game but hasn't had a sniff since. Matt 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted July 28, 2015 Report Share Posted July 28, 2015 Yeah, not sure why he got cast into the reserves. It's a shame he clearly has lost a bit of ability over the past year or so because I had always wondered if he'd be wearing our shirt at age 40! Don't get the dramatic language, he wasn't "cast" anywhere. He turned out for the reserves to keep match fit in case we needed him, as did many other first team squad members over the year (as they do every year). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted July 28, 2015 Report Share Posted July 28, 2015 But Kone's getting game time in pre-season. Alot more game time than Connor Mac, who was excellent in the Swindon Game but hasn't had a sniff since. VDM used to get a lot of pre season from Moyes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seve Posted July 28, 2015 Report Share Posted July 28, 2015 £5m was very high for a "solid" defender in his thirties five years ago. Think virtually everyone thought it was a bad move at the time. We also paid him handsomely, which was why I think, "he gave us excellent service for no money" is a hell of a stretch. And he stopped playing for the first team because he wasn't good enough any more. He was dropped, happens to players all the time. 5 mil was peanuts for a quality CB all that experience he made us solid at the back as for being dropped for not being good enough you mean for bird man by a manager who does not practice defending corners or anything else to do with defence for that matter he is just leading us down the same street as last season its funny all the players other people want is moyes people Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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