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  1. 1. In or out?

    • Stay in
      26
    • Leave
      24

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3 hours ago, johnh said:

Matt, the insults are no more accurate than those that say that Remainer's were weak, naive and gullible to believe the ''project fear' garbage.

We'll have to agree to disagree mate. I've made no secret of my contempt for pretty much all politicians, and the fact they have lied to the public (both sides of Brexit, both parties) means they deserve any insults they get. The insults are not aimed at Leave voters, for the most part. Certainly not towards those on here that chose to vote that way

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Do the leave voters still believe they are going to get what they voted for when they voted out or what they were told would happen if they voted out, cause it looks more and more like we will be adopting the Danish scenario which is doing everything the E.U say and having no say, oh and paying for the pleasure great move. Not even Moshiri could make that big a mistake and he's made some big mistakes:D

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25 minutes ago, Palfy said:

Do the leave voters still believe they are going to get what they voted for when they voted out or what they were told would happen if they voted out, cause it looks more and more like we will be adopting the Danish scenario which is doing everything the E.U say and having no say, oh and paying for the pleasure great move. Not even Moshiri could make that big a mistake and he's made some big mistakes:D

No mate, its going to be like the good old days before the war.

Make Albion Great Again. #MAGA

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1 hour ago, Palfy said:

Do the leave voters still believe they are going to get what they voted for when they voted out or what they were told would happen if they voted out, cause it looks more and more like we will be adopting the Danish scenario which is doing everything the E.U say and having no say, oh and paying for the pleasure great move. Not even Moshiri could make that big a mistake and he's made some big mistakes:D

It really is pointless isn'tt it. Why put the country through all of the BS that we have been through over the last couple of years to remain in the EU in all but name. It doesn' suit the remainers because they still want to make decisions in the EU and it doesn' suit the leavers because it offers none of the perceived benefits of leaving. 

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2 minutes ago, Bailey said:

It really is pointless isn'ttt it. Why put the country through all of the BS that we have been through over the last couple of years to remain in the EU in all but name. It doesn' suit the remainers because they still want to make decisions in the EU and it doesn' suit the leavers because it offers none of the perceived benefits of leaving. 

And that's truth Bailey there have been no winners we have all been losers, the biggest decision that this country has had to face for years and it's being orchestrated by one of the weakest governments we had for years, God help us I think were going to need it.

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1 hour ago, Chach said:

No mate, its going to be like the good old days before the war.

Splendid Isolation, one of the few things I remember from school history lessons; great to see us moving forward as a country:huh:. 19th century here we come:rolleyes:.

"It is the duty of the Government of this country, placed as it is with regard to geographical position, to keep itself upon terms of goodwill with all surrounding nations, but not to entangle itself with any single or monopolising alliance with any one of them; above all to endeavour not to interfere needlessly and vexatiously with the internal affairs of any foreign country."

Lord Derby, 1866. 

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http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2018/01/30/germans-hate-us-celebrating-glorious-victory-against-nazism/amp/?utm_campaign=Echobox&utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Twitter&__twitter_impression=true

The Telegraph has for a while now been on the same level as Daily Mail and Daily Express, with this piece they have managed to find a new low.

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2 hours ago, holystove said:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2018/01/30/germans-hate-us-celebrating-glorious-victory-against-nazism/amp/?utm_campaign=Echobox&utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Twitter&__twitter_impression=true

The Telegraph has for a while now been on the same level as Daily Mail and Daily Express, with this piece they have managed to find a new low.

Common blue theme among those rags... 

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On 8-2-2018 at 10:09, Matt said:

And in true Tory style, the poorest areas will be the most effected :doh: 

Poorest indeed, but also the areas with highest Leave vote.

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As we enter phase 2, expect a lot more of this:

https://www.ft.com/content/a217ae1a-0cf0-11e8-8eb7-42f857ea9f09 : "Britain has a message for the rest of the world after Brexit next year: please pretend we are still in the EU. A “technical note” prepared by the UK government asks non-EU nations to treat the UK during its post-Brexit transition period starting in March 2019 as if it was still covered by more than 700 treaties agreed by Brussels with third-party countries."

Today the UK has asked the EU for opt-ins on Justice and Security affairs... 

All of this to go from a member state that's half out but with a powerful voice, to a third country that's half-in but with no seat at the table? So strange... If I were the UK I'd go for full Rees-Mogg, so you'd be able to say that you at least gave it a real shot.

The current approach doesn't address any of the underlying issues that led to brexit, quite the opposite.

 

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  • 2 weeks later...

Two of the three companies bidding to produce our new blue passports are French it turns out:lol:.

And Theresa May, "....and I think it's absolutely right that when we leave the EU we return to deciding the colour of passports that we want, not what the European...." trails off.

She probably trailed off because she knew she was on the verge of lying. If she'd said "union dictate" she'd have been pulled up but if she'd have finished "union offered as an option" it wouldn't have had the same impact. The EU never mandated burgundy passports: it simply produced a standard format that many member states chose to use for the sake of convenience. Croatia chose to stay blue, we could've done as well.

Ask her about that deception next time she pops in for a chat John;).

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2 hours ago, MikeO said:

Two of the three companies bidding to produce our new blue passports are French it turns out:lol:.

And Theresa May, "....and I think it's absolutely right that when we leave the EU we return to deciding the colour of passports that we want, not what the European...." trails off.

She probably trailed off because she knew she was on the verge of lying. If she'd said "union dictate" she'd have been pulled up but if she'd have finished "union offered as an option" it wouldn't have had the same impact. The EU never mandated burgundy passports: it simply produced a standard format that many member states chose to use for the sake of convenience. Croatia chose to stay blue, we could've done as well.

Ask her about that deception next time she pops in for a chat John;).

Who even gives a shit about the colour? Of all the things we have to think about and deal with, the colour of the passport could be decided by a toddler or that octopus that picked the world cup results. It should be headline news!

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11 hours ago, Bailey said:

Who even gives a shit about the colour? Of all the things we have to think about and deal with, the colour of the passport could be decided by a toddler or that octopus that picked the world cup results. It should be headline news!

Most of the negotiations would be done better too;

http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-43139703

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There’s loads of fruit pickers in this country make everyone who’s not in work pick the fruits and the farmers can pay the government for their services.

 If that was to happen there would be a massive cry out for a second referendum from all the dole dosing I’m hard done by moaners who voted out. 

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