Wiggytop Posted November 7, 2020 Report Share Posted November 7, 2020 I’d rather he just has a steady game and he doesn’t have too much to do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted November 7, 2020 Report Share Posted November 7, 2020 https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/54845812 Romey 1878 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shukes Posted November 7, 2020 Report Share Posted November 7, 2020 42 minutes ago, Matt said: https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/54845812 I have been thinking the same watching him. Because his form has dipped, he seems to be trying to hard to do certain things instead of relying on what he is good at. Hopefully Carlos words will sink in and he will start playing his position like he enjoys it again. Matt, Palfy and Romey 1878 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted November 7, 2020 Report Share Posted November 7, 2020 I'll be honest, I didn't see the incident because my stream was being a dick at that time. So for me, I thought he had a decent game. Palfy and Matt 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aidan Posted November 7, 2020 Report Share Posted November 7, 2020 He's keeping up with his one blunder a game. Lets stop pissing about now and give Olsen a good run of games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted November 7, 2020 Report Share Posted November 7, 2020 2 minutes ago, Aidan said: He's keeping up with his one blunder a game. Lets stop pissing about now and give Olsen a good run of games. Which blunder? The one where he’s pushed? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aidan Posted November 7, 2020 Report Share Posted November 7, 2020 10 minutes ago, Matt said: Which blunder? The one where he’s pushed? Thats the one StevO 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted November 7, 2020 Report Share Posted November 7, 2020 5 minutes ago, Aidan said: Thats the one So a blunder is him not being able to catch a ball whilst being pushed? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palfy Posted November 7, 2020 Report Share Posted November 7, 2020 Hopefully McGuires statement clarifys the situation and we all acknowledge he had a decent game, and like Olsen he can't be held responsible for the 2 goals conceded. StevO and Matt 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted November 7, 2020 Report Share Posted November 7, 2020 10 minutes ago, Palfy said: Hopefully McGuires statement clarifys the situation and we all acknowledge he had a decent game, and like Olsen he can't be held responsible for the 2 goals conceded. Or the three we conceded StevO 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palfy Posted November 7, 2020 Report Share Posted November 7, 2020 1 minute ago, Romey 1878 said: Or the three we conceded Fuck forgot the last one, the day just keeps getting worse. Romey 1878 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aidan Posted November 8, 2020 Report Share Posted November 8, 2020 17 hours ago, Matt said: So a blunder is him not being able to catch a ball whilst being pushed? Honestly, he looks like he's going to make a meal of it anyway. Hardly even a push really, but i suppose he gets the benefit of the doubt as who knows what would have happened if Maguire didn't touch him? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete0 Posted November 8, 2020 Report Share Posted November 8, 2020 4 minutes ago, Aidan said: Honestly, he looks like he's going to make a meal of it anyway. Hardly even a push really, but i suppose he gets the benefit of the doubt as who knows what would have happened if Maguire didn't touch him? Probably catches the ball. Worse case bounces it on the spot and catches it as he'd be directly over the ball without the push. This man hunt for Pickford is getting out of hand. Really feels like people are willing him to fail. He's won us more points than he's cost since he's been here, so far this season he hasn't cost us any and yesterday even played apart in us scoring. He's not the best in the world but he's very fucking good. If any of the top six lost their keeper no doubt in my mind he'd be on their short lists. Matt, Palfy, Romey 1878 and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted November 8, 2020 Report Share Posted November 8, 2020 1 hour ago, Aidan said: Honestly, he looks like he's going to make a meal of it anyway. Hardly even a push really, but i suppose he gets the benefit of the doubt as who knows what would have happened if Maguire didn't touch him? But he did get pushed, there’s no point discussing what would’ve happened. Try jumping with your hands up trying to catch a moving ball and have someone push you slightly in the middle of your chest. Your arms immediately move inward, you move back and you’ve lost balance. Maguire has even said he “probably” fouled, so why is this even a discussion? pete0, Palfy, Romey 1878 and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palfy Posted November 8, 2020 Report Share Posted November 8, 2020 1 hour ago, pete0 said: Probably catches the ball. Worse case bounces it on the spot and catches it as he'd be directly over the ball without the push. This man hunt for Pickford is getting out of hand. Really feels like people are willing him to fail. He's won us more points than he's cost since he's been here, so far this season he hasn't cost us any and yesterday even played apart in us scoring. He's not the best in the world but he's very fucking good. If any of the top six lost their keeper no doubt in my mind he'd be on their short lists. I agree mate for me I find incomprehensible that fellow Evertonians are looking for him to fuck up every game, so much so that they have to nick pick on the smallest insignificant incidents every game, I can understand that from supporters of other team's but our own very poor. Referring to yesterday's incident I myself said fucking hell Pickford catch it, which I take back and apologise to him for, others won't in fact knowing now what happened they still hold him responsible, some even claimed it was a Stonewall penalty that Pickford had fouled McGuire, no hands up I was wrong instead they will be even more eager to run him down at a later date to make up for the fact that they can't hang him for Saturday's incident, because as much as they are blinkered there is a limit to how much they can blame him for. pete0, Romey 1878, Matt and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shukes Posted November 8, 2020 Report Share Posted November 8, 2020 Another player that’s not allowed to be criticised because others get upset? Really guys, you all need to relax a bit. Both sides have lost all subjectively here. Pickford hasn’t been good this season. Simple. Those sticking up for him are glossing over cracks. Pickford hasn’t been awful this season. Simple. Those slating him are over reacting. Was him dropping the ball down to a push? If it was then he needs to work out more, that was more of a tickle. Was it a terrible mistake? More like a player low on confidence, takes a slight nudge and being already fragile dropped the ball. But there is a growing trend on TT recently where we’re not allowed to discuss. I can personally recall getting slated for criticising Gomes in the... Gomes thread. A page later everyone is at it haha. I think we all need to stop taking it so personally. It’s ugly to watch recently. Hafnia and Sibdane 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete0 Posted November 8, 2020 Report Share Posted November 8, 2020 24 minutes ago, Shukes said: Another player that’s not allowed to be criticised because others get upset? Really guys, you all need to relax a bit. Both sides have lost all subjectively here. Pickford hasn’t been good this season. Simple. Those sticking up for him are glossing over cracks. Pickford hasn’t been awful this season. Simple. Those slating him are over reacting. Was him dropping the ball down to a push? If it was then he needs to work out more, that was more of a tickle. Was it a terrible mistake? More like a player low on confidence, takes a slight nudge and being already fragile dropped the ball. But there is a growing trend on TT recently where we’re not allowed to discuss. I can personally recall getting slated for criticising Gomes in the... Gomes thread. A page later everyone is at it haha. I think we all need to stop taking it so personally. It’s ugly to watch recently. You weren't willing him to fail though. The vibe I get from some Everton fans is that they want him to fail and that's just weird to me. As for the push if you're in the air it doesn't matter how strong you are, you're gonna move. (One of my bug bears is when people give you a little shove on the back when you go for a header, doesn't even have to be hard but it can knock you for 6). Shukes, Matt, StevO and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palfy Posted November 8, 2020 Report Share Posted November 8, 2020 37 minutes ago, Shukes said: Another player that’s not allowed to be criticised because others get upset? Really guys, you all need to relax a bit. Both sides have lost all subjectively here. Pickford hasn’t been good this season. Simple. Those sticking up for him are glossing over cracks. Pickford hasn’t been awful this season. Simple. Those slating him are over reacting. Was him dropping the ball down to a push? If it was then he needs to work out more, that was more of a tickle. Was it a terrible mistake? More like a player low on confidence, takes a slight nudge and being already fragile dropped the ball. But there is a growing trend on TT recently where we’re not allowed to discuss. I can personally recall getting slated for criticising Gomes in the... Gomes thread. A page later everyone is at it haha. I think we all need to stop taking it so personally. It’s ugly to watch recently. When you're off the ground you can't go backwards forwards or sideways try it, you need a separate force to propel you in any of those directions simple Physics really, Pickford is clearly pushed when off the ground which sends him backwards that can not happen with out force impossible. We are discussing there's never been a problem with that that I'm aware of, can you please explain how if you jump straight up in the air you then land 2-3 feet behind where you took off from how that happens, unless of course your David Blaine or Dynamo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shukes Posted November 8, 2020 Report Share Posted November 8, 2020 2 minutes ago, Palfy said: When you're off the ground you can't go backwards forwards or sideways try it, you need a separate force to propel you in any of those directions simple Physics really, Pickford is clearly pushed when off the ground which sends him backwards that can not happen with out force impossible. We are discussing there's never been a problem with that that I'm aware of, can you please explain how if you jump straight up in the air you then land 2-3 feet behind where you took off from how that happens, unless of course your David Blaine or Dynamo. I agree with both of you that a touch on air is like a shove on the ground. But I also know that goalkeepers, along with any other player, gets this type of treatment every single game. DCL possibly ten to fifteen times a game. And they have to learn to deal with it as best they can. If you think he could t have done any better in that situation, then who am I to argue. But I’m simply in the camp of, keeper should have done better there. If he is going to drop the ball anytime he is touched.... then sorry, but the premier league isn’t where he should be. Now saying that, I don’t think Jordan will agree you either of you. I honestly think he will be disappointed with that. Any progressional Keeper would be. And I think he knows he can do better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palfy Posted November 8, 2020 Report Share Posted November 8, 2020 44 minutes ago, Shukes said: I agree with both of you that a touch on air is like a shove on the ground. But I also know that goalkeepers, along with any other player, gets this type of treatment every single game. DCL possibly ten to fifteen times a game. And they have to learn to deal with it as best they can. If you think he could t have done any better in that situation, then who am I to argue. But I’m simply in the camp of, keeper should have done better there. If he is going to drop the ball anytime he is touched.... then sorry, but the premier league isn’t where he should be. Now saying that, I don’t think Jordan will agree you either of you. I honestly think he will be disappointed with that. Any progressional Keeper would be. And I think he knows he can do better. I get what your saying and he will be disappointed at not being able to keep hold of it, but we can only guess really what he's thinking, but I'm prepared to give him the benefit of the doubt more because he was pushed a nano second before the ball arrived so there for I don't believe he had the ball fully in his possession, or you could be in the camp that believes he would have dropped it even if he wasn't pushed . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted November 8, 2020 Report Share Posted November 8, 2020 1 hour ago, Palfy said: When you're off the ground you can't go backwards forwards or sideways try it, you need a separate force to propel you in any of those directions simple Physics really, Pickford is clearly pushed when off the ground which sends him backwards that can not happen with out force impossible. We are discussing there's never been a problem with that that I'm aware of, can you please explain how if you jump straight up in the air you then land 2-3 feet behind where you took off from how that happens, unless of course your David Blaine or Dynamo. Well he was jumping slightly backwards so whilst I know what you’re getting at, you can go in different directions. But that more reinforces the impact of a slight touch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gwlad Posted November 8, 2020 Report Share Posted November 8, 2020 If Jordan's head isn't in the right place then all sympathy and there are few on here who don't have undertanding/experience of mental issues. He'll probably play a blinder or two for England but we are talking Everton and I hope Carlo puts Robin in v Fulham. JP's not instilling confidence in the defence. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aidan Posted November 8, 2020 Report Share Posted November 8, 2020 8 hours ago, pete0 said: Probably catches the ball. Worse case bounces it on the spot and catches it as he'd be directly over the ball without the push. This man hunt for Pickford is getting out of hand. Really feels like people are willing him to fail. He's won us more points than he's cost since he's been here, so far this season he hasn't cost us any and yesterday even played apart in us scoring. He's not the best in the world but he's very fucking good. If any of the top six lost their keeper no doubt in my mind he'd be on their short lists. 7 hours ago, Matt said: But he did get pushed, there’s no point discussing what would’ve happened. Try jumping with your hands up trying to catch a moving ball and have someone push you slightly in the middle of your chest. Your arms immediately move inward, you move back and you’ve lost balance. Maguire has even said he “probably” fouled, so why is this even a discussion? Not a witch hunt. A player who makes on average 1 big mistake a game is going to naturally get scrutinised whatever happens. I agree though, hardly worth arguing about. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aidan Posted November 8, 2020 Report Share Posted November 8, 2020 1 hour ago, Gwlad all over said: If Jordan's head isn't in the right place then all sympathy and there are few on here who don't have undertanding/experience of mental issues. He'll probably play a blinder or two for England but we are talking Everton and I hope Carlo puts Robin in v Fulham. JP's not instilling confidence in the defence. He's been trash since his second season here. His mental health because of the VVD incident has nothing to do with his ability. He's playing as he was prior to the incident and will continue to do so. Its a shame because I thought he showed so much promise after that first season he had for us. I think he's massively let it get to his head. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete0 Posted November 8, 2020 Report Share Posted November 8, 2020 https://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/everton-news-ancelotti-pickford-midfield-19242784.amp Palfy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palfy Posted November 8, 2020 Report Share Posted November 8, 2020 18 minutes ago, pete0 said: https://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/everton-news-ancelotti-pickford-midfield-19242784.amp At this moment in time I think I will agree with the Don, after all I've got to believe he is more knowledgeable about these matters than most, and if I'm wrong about that then God help us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted December 4, 2020 Report Share Posted December 4, 2020 https://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/neville-southall-slams-concerted-effort-19395624 pete0, Palfy, MikeO and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palfy Posted December 4, 2020 Report Share Posted December 4, 2020 4 hours ago, Romey 1878 said: https://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/neville-southall-slams-concerted-effort-19395624 Get in Nev completely feel your pain and understanding Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Btay Posted December 4, 2020 Report Share Posted December 4, 2020 3 hours ago, Palfy said: Get in Nev completely feel your pain and understanding It’s wrong though from the media. Still when I google Everton it comes up with keeper who ended VVD season gets away with another horror tackle ( Maguire ). Absolutely disgusting the freedom the media have to slander and create an agenda against individuals. Romey 1878, pete0 and Palfy 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post duncanmckenzieismagic Posted December 5, 2020 Author Popular Post Report Share Posted December 5, 2020 Another good solid performance from him today, made up he is starting to find form again, hope this continues and he rams it back down the throats of his critics. Could be the making of him Romey 1878, Palfy, Matt and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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