Bailey Posted June 26, 2018 Report Share Posted June 26, 2018 17 hours ago, Sir McGiven said: I think if FIFA or whoever developing it, somehow eliminate refs to stop the game and watch positions again from the screen, it can be more productive and less wasted time on the pitch. There are other refs in the room who are able to watch the suspicious positions from the screens where different angles are also available. So 1 main ref on the pitch and 1 main ref in VAR room (this guy will be responsible only if a misjudged position occurs) will be better. In general, I think it is a pretty good solution, it can be a good thing if it can be developed better. I dont know if rugby union is big in Turkey but thats more or less how it works. The off field ref gives clear advice and information to the on field ref and can ask to take a look at foul play etc when the game stops. They also review all the important moments as well and they discuss the decision (which we can all hear) whilst viewing the big screen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
holystove Posted June 26, 2018 Report Share Posted June 26, 2018 Based on first half, I hope Iceland go through. They deserve a goal, while Argentina is boring as ever. MikeO 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghoat Posted June 26, 2018 Report Share Posted June 26, 2018 I wonder if Nigeria 19 year old keeper gets picked up by a bugger club this season, even if just to play on a U-23 team or sucb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sibdane Posted June 26, 2018 Report Share Posted June 26, 2018 Man, Argentina really lack creativity beyond Messi, and Hiquain just blew a good chance. I will say that Nigeria's penalty was so soft. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mirallas Posted June 26, 2018 Report Share Posted June 26, 2018 I really really hope Messi doesn't get to score again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailey Posted June 26, 2018 Report Share Posted June 26, 2018 1 minute ago, tonkaroost said: Man, Argentina really lack creativity beyond Messi, and Hiquain just blew a good chance. I will say that Nigeria's penalty was so soft. This game has proven what I said yesterday about players looking for the foul with VAR. There is no way Mascherano pulls the attacker down for the penalty and then at the other end Di Maria is waiting for the faintest of touches to go down claiming for a penalty. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sibdane Posted June 26, 2018 Report Share Posted June 26, 2018 4 minutes ago, Bailey said: This game has proven what I said yesterday about players looking for the foul with VAR. There is no way Mascherano pulls the attacker down for the penalty and then at the other end Di Maria is waiting for the faintest of touches to go down claiming for a penalty. Idk -- in today's game players are always looking for the foul. I don't think this is a new thing created by VAR. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mirallas Posted June 26, 2018 Report Share Posted June 26, 2018 eh this sucks. Nigeria through and cocky Argentina sent home would've been a much better storyline. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailey Posted June 26, 2018 Report Share Posted June 26, 2018 14 minutes ago, tonkaroost said: Idk -- in today's game players are always looking for the foul. I don't think this is a new thing created by VAR. Completely, I dont mean that its something that has only just been created but it just turns it up another notch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sibdane Posted June 26, 2018 Report Share Posted June 26, 2018 3 minutes ago, Bailey said: Completely, I dont mean that its something that has only just been created but it just turns it up another notch. You're probably right there. It's interesting to see players making the square symbol after a lot of challenges now. Bailey 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
holystove Posted June 26, 2018 Report Share Posted June 26, 2018 25 minutes ago, tonkaroost said: Idk -- in today's game players are always looking for the foul. I don't think this is a new thing created by VAR. I like the VAR system. Players know the incident will be reviewed so no point in trying to fool the referee. System needs some adjustments but definitely a positive evolution. Sibdane, Matt, Steve_E and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sibdane Posted June 26, 2018 Report Share Posted June 26, 2018 Just now, holystove said: I like the VAR system. Players know the incident will be reviewed so no point in trying to fool the referee. System needs some adjustments but definitely a positive evolution. I'm okay with it also. I know some feel that errors are just part of the game, but I'd rather every call be right (for the most part), so that it's all fair. It will take some time to make it more efficient and accurate, but I think it's the right move to implement it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghoat Posted June 26, 2018 Report Share Posted June 26, 2018 49 minutes ago, tonkaroost said: Idk -- in today's game players are always looking for the foul. I don't think this is a new thing created by VAR. But late in game when it was 2-1, Messi got that long ball and was chasing into the box, feet got tangled a bit, but he stayed up, lost possession, and tackled the defender with a slide at the touch line. He was in the box at speed and did NOT go down, but continued to fight for the ball. So, I would agree, players are going to play the way they play regardless. If that would have been Neymar, he would have gone down and rolled halfway to Estonia holding his spleen. Matt and Sibdane 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Formby Posted June 26, 2018 Report Share Posted June 26, 2018 1 hour ago, Ghoat said: I wonder if Nigeria 19 year old keeper gets picked up by a bugger club this season, even if just to play on a U-23 team or sucb Are there such clubs? Ghoat 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir McGiven Posted June 26, 2018 Report Share Posted June 26, 2018 7 hours ago, Bailey said: I dont know if rugby union is big in Turkey but thats more or less how it works. The off field ref gives clear advice and information to the on field ref and can ask to take a look at foul play etc when the game stops. They also review all the important moments as well and they discuss the decision (which we can all hear) whilst viewing the big screen. Nah mate, It is only being played in colleges, no official senior leagues as far as I know. Not sure being hear about it suits football but rest is quite good enough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
holystove Posted June 27, 2018 Report Share Posted June 27, 2018 11 hours ago, tonkaroost said: I'm okay with it also. I know some feel that errors are just part of the game, but I'd rather every call be right (for the most part), so that it's all fair. It will take some time to make it more efficient and accurate, but I think it's the right move to implement it. Maybe the VAR shouldn't be allowed to intervene, but each team could get 3 challenges like in Tennis. If your challenge was correct, you don't loose one of your 3. isn'tt there a similar system in the NFL, but with only one challenge? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted June 27, 2018 Report Share Posted June 27, 2018 3 hours ago, holystove said: Maybe the VAR shouldn't be allowed to intervene, but each team could get 3 challenges like in Tennis. If your challenge was correct, you don't loose one of your 3. isn'ttt there a similar system in the NFL, but with only one challenge? Cricket uses the same system. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghoat Posted June 27, 2018 Report Share Posted June 27, 2018 14 hours ago, Formby said: Are there such clubs? Liverpool Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghoat Posted June 27, 2018 Report Share Posted June 27, 2018 4 hours ago, holystove said: Maybe the VAR shouldn't be allowed to intervene, but each team could get 3 challenges like in Tennis. If your challenge was correct, you don't loose one of your 3. isn'ttt there a similar system in the NFL, but with only one challenge? Yes, with the caveat that all scoring plays are automatically reviewed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailey Posted June 27, 2018 Report Share Posted June 27, 2018 The difference with cricket, NFL and Tennis is that they have almost immediate natural breaks in the play. A challenge / review is easier in those games because of it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted June 27, 2018 Report Share Posted June 27, 2018 Germany out as the scores stand, they only need one goal though, they'll find a way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted June 27, 2018 Report Share Posted June 27, 2018 If Germany do get that one then Mexico would be the ones to go out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nogs Posted June 27, 2018 Report Share Posted June 27, 2018 Argentina and Germany suffering from playing the same old 'big names' past their sell by date. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted June 27, 2018 Report Share Posted June 27, 2018 Just now, nogs said: Argentina and Germany suffering from playing the same old 'big names' past their sell by date. It’s worked out really well not taking Sane. His unpredictability and invention is exactly what Germany need. Bailey 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted June 27, 2018 Report Share Posted June 27, 2018 I’m a big, BIG fan of VAR Steve_E 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted June 27, 2018 Report Share Posted June 27, 2018 what a day! Now if Neymar and Brazil can fuck off later too it’d be fantastic. Steve_E 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve_E Posted June 27, 2018 Report Share Posted June 27, 2018 6 minutes ago, Romey 1878 said: what a day! Now if Neymar and Brazil can fuck off later too it’d be fantastic. Shame Argentina managed to scrape by, though they still seem shit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted June 27, 2018 Report Share Posted June 27, 2018 Brilliant, had to go out so was listening in the car. Feel for Mexico though, first ever team to go out after winning opening two games since the days only group winners qualified! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mirallas Posted June 27, 2018 Report Share Posted June 27, 2018 7 minutes ago, MikeO said: Brilliant, had to go out so was listening in the car. Feel for Mexico though, first ever team to go out after winning opening two games since the days only group winners qualified! I'm pretty sure Mexico is through edit: look Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted June 27, 2018 Report Share Posted June 27, 2018 5 minutes ago, Mirallas said: I'm pretty sure Mexico is through edit: look I'm being thick, that was a possible scenario had Germany won. I need a lie down . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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