Bailey Posted July 5, 2018 Report Share Posted July 5, 2018 5 hours ago, pete0 said: God help us if they win it. Martinez still bangs on about getting to two Cup semi finals and 11th like it was an achievement he'll be up there with the '5 times' lot for annoyance if he gets a world cup. We'll never hear the end of it. Given he has won the FA cup I am pretty sure he doesnt give too many fucks. The reason he put that much stock into them cups is he believed that its what us fans wanted above all else, which he was kind of right, which in turn would give him more time in the job. I still cant believe we didnt beat Utd in that FA cup semi. We absolutely battered them in that second half and got sucker punched by that Martial goal. Sibdane 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markjazzbassist Posted July 5, 2018 Report Share Posted July 5, 2018 martinez is a very smart man. i expect him to be Spain's manager right after this World cup. he is perfect for them, playing style is there, and he's from catalan, but he's not a diehard barca guy which is good for the real madrid and other guys. holystove 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted July 5, 2018 Report Share Posted July 5, 2018 1 hour ago, markjazzbassist said: and he's from catalan Pedantry 101. He's a Catalan which means he's from Catalonia. Like "MJB is from American" doesn't really work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markjazzbassist Posted July 5, 2018 Report Share Posted July 5, 2018 45 minutes ago, MikeO said: Pedantry 101. He's a Catalan which means he's from Catalonia. Like "MJB is from American" doesn't really work. depends on where in america you are located nyblue23 and Quinn31 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve_E Posted July 6, 2018 Report Share Posted July 6, 2018 On 28/06/2018 at 17:02, Steve_E said: I'm leaving for Sevilla for five days on Monday and apparently the winner of Group G plays the quarter finals (if they make it that far) on 6 July 8pm CET. As I'll be on the plane back home then, I might actually be actively rooting for England to win tonight… I've booked an early flight and will be watching Belgium - Brazil in Brussels Hope Martinez has learned from the Japan game and will finally stop playing three at the back. He should play Vertonghen, Kompany, Alderweireld, Meunier in defense, De Bruyne hasn't performed offensively or defensively in his current role, so I would either play Fellaini and Dembele (Witsel once again at fault for Japan's second goal) with De Bruyne ahead of them or I would drop Mertens and play De Bruyne on the right. If he insists on playing three at the back, he has to leave out Carrasco, move Vertonghen into left wing back and play Vermaelen next to Kompany and Alderweireld. holystove and Bailey 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailey Posted July 6, 2018 Report Share Posted July 6, 2018 47 minutes ago, Steve_E said: I've booked an early flight and will be watching Belgium - Brazil in Brussels Hope Martinez has learned from the Japan game and will finally stop playing three at the back. He should play Vertonghen, Kompany, Alderweireld, Meunier in defense, De Bruyne hasn't performed offensively or defensively in his current role, so I would either play Fellaini and Dembele (Witsel once again at fault for Japan's second goal) with De Bruyne ahead of them or I would drop Mertens and play De Bruyne on the right. If he insists on playing three at the back, he has to leave out Carrasco, move Vertonghen into left wing back and play Vermaelen next to Kompany and Alderweireld. I agree, the three doesnt work well enough. I think he is probably using the 3 to give Hazard that free role rather than give him resposibility from a wide position. I feel like it sacrifices De Bruyne considerably though as he needs protection behind him to be at his best. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnh Posted July 6, 2018 Report Share Posted July 6, 2018 Rumour has it that Uruguay supporters are raising a petition to have the game against France replayed as their goalie had concussion. They refer to 'case history'! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
holystove Posted July 6, 2018 Report Share Posted July 6, 2018 If France do win it all they will have gone through Argentina, Uruguay, Brazil/Belgium and England. Would be a very impressive run. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sibdane Posted July 6, 2018 Report Share Posted July 6, 2018 Belgium is looking scary right now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sibdane Posted July 6, 2018 Report Share Posted July 6, 2018 What a goal! Excellent run by Lukaku and an arrow by KDB. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted July 6, 2018 Report Share Posted July 6, 2018 8 minutes ago, tonkaroost said: Belgium is looking scary right now. This game could be 2-2.... Brazil had chances from corners. Lukaku playing well, Brazil and Belgium both look weak at back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghoat Posted July 6, 2018 Report Share Posted July 6, 2018 Interesting to me that Lukaku is being played out on the wing of a 4-3-3 and DeBryune is playing as the striker. It's working tho Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghoat Posted July 6, 2018 Report Share Posted July 6, 2018 11 minutes ago, hafnia said: This game could be 2-2.... Brazil had chances from corners. Lukaku playing well, Brazil and Belgium both look weak at back. Belgium is getting legs and feet everywhere, that have blocked/deflected shot after shot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 6, 2018 Report Share Posted July 6, 2018 shit that Martinez isn'tt he Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted July 6, 2018 Report Share Posted July 6, 2018 12 minutes ago, yamar said: shit that Martinez isn'tttt he He wasn't... he just got carried away with himself and lost the dressing room and fans. He can't moan - he got too arrogant. He had the perfect balance in the first year. The mistakes being made and overpaying was horrendous. He's probably learned but let's face it - that team he's got is the strongest on paper in terms of individual talent in the world cup. By some distance too. markjazzbassist, Newty82, Matt and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghoat Posted July 6, 2018 Report Share Posted July 6, 2018 Marcello is Brazil's best player by for today for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted July 6, 2018 Report Share Posted July 6, 2018 Stonewall penalty... how has VAR not awarded that? Do they only get one camera view? MikeO and EFC-Paul 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EFC-Paul Posted July 6, 2018 Report Share Posted July 6, 2018 Very poor from the ref and VAR room clear pen would have made it far more interesting Defending well Belgium though won't be surprised if they get another on the counter Miranda is struggling with Lukaku Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted July 6, 2018 Report Share Posted July 6, 2018 Just now, EFC-Paul said: Very poor from the ref and VAR room clear pens would have made it far more interesting Defending well Belgium though won't be surprised if they get another on the counter Miranda is struggling with Lukaku Lukaku and fellaini having the types of games you wanted them to have in a blue shirt but seen all too rarely. 100% up for it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 6, 2018 Report Share Posted July 6, 2018 28 minutes ago, hafnia said: He wasn't... he just got carried away with himself and lost the dressing room and fans. He can't moan - he got too arrogant. He had the perfect balance in the first year. The mistakes being made and overpaying was horrendous. He's probably learned but let's face it - that team he's got is the strongest on paper in terms of individual talent in the world cup. By some distance too. Didn't matter haf, you still need to win with them. The last manager proved that whatever good players at your disposal, you have to be a good manager. And I don't think you could ever out marinez and arrogant in the same sentence. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EFC-Paul Posted July 6, 2018 Report Share Posted July 6, 2018 I don't know how anyone can defend Martinez's sacking or any correlation having success on the international stage with an absolute abundance of talent to domestic football...baffling Curtis the tit Woodhouse tweeted something similar before, I wouldn't say he was arrogant but pig-headed and a decent manager with very little to offer when the shit hit the fan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted July 6, 2018 Report Share Posted July 6, 2018 Just now, yamar said: Didn't matter haf, you still need to win with them. The last manager proved that whatever good players at your disposal, you have to be a good manager. And I don't think you could ever out marinez and arrogant in the same sentence. Arrogance isn'tt necessarily a personality trait... it can be attributed to being defiantly rigid in your approach when it's been proven to not be working. Martinez gave us the best season I've enjoyed under Everton in years - unfortunately he got carried away with himself. In the end he had to go. He looked fookin ill - rather than take stock of the situation and realise that his abandonment of any defensive pragmatism was costing him he just carried on blindly instructing the players to play out from the back. We took forever to get the ball forward... Btw he looks like a rabbit in headlights right now. Needs to change it. Brazil are smelling blood. Matt 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EFC-Paul Posted July 6, 2018 Report Share Posted July 6, 2018 Totally blanked Martinez then not a happy chappy is the primma donna Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mirallas Posted July 6, 2018 Report Share Posted July 6, 2018 Easy half of the table. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EFC-Paul Posted July 6, 2018 Report Share Posted July 6, 2018 Well done Belgium and to the lads on here Great all round performance and looked the part holystove and Mirallas 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted July 6, 2018 Report Share Posted July 6, 2018 7 minutes ago, EFC-Paul said: Totally blanked Martinez then not a happy chappy is the primma donna Spotted that... He would sooner have the golden boot than a winner's medal. Fellaini MOTM for me.... one of those games he played like he did versus man city for us. Sometimes he's a ball magnet. Kompany and hazard also extremely good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markjazzbassist Posted July 6, 2018 Report Share Posted July 6, 2018 well done belgium, the european teams are rounding out the semi-finals nicely Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted July 6, 2018 Report Share Posted July 6, 2018 I think we have a better chance of beating Belgium than Brazil in a final. Belgium looked strong tonight and the key players did well. They are beatable if 2 or 3 aren't quite at it. Plus most Belgians play in the premier too. MikeO 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
holystove Posted July 6, 2018 Report Share Posted July 6, 2018 2 hours ago, holystove said: If France do win it all they will have gone through Argentina, Uruguay, Brazil/Belgium and England. Would be a very impressive run. Japan, Brazil, France, England wouldnt be bad either Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
12ubb3rduck3y Posted July 6, 2018 Report Share Posted July 6, 2018 46 minutes ago, EFC-Paul said: Very poor from the ref and VAR room clear pen would have made it far more interesting Defending well Belgium though won't be surprised if they get another on the counter Miranda is struggling with Lukaku No way a pen the ball was already out when contact was made. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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