EFC-Paul Posted July 6, 2018 Report Share Posted July 6, 2018 Just now, 12ubb3rduck3y said: No way a pen the ball was already out when contact was made. "Going out" doesn't matter it's contact clear as day penalty, tbh I'm glad it wasn't awarded anyway it's just deserts with having Neymar in their side Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
holystove Posted July 6, 2018 Report Share Posted July 6, 2018 5 minutes ago, 12ubb3rduck3y said: No way a pen the ball was already out when contact was made. I agree. Twice no pen and Neymar should have gotten a yellow for dive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finn balor Posted July 6, 2018 Report Share Posted July 6, 2018 I enjoyed Martinez in his first season and equally hated his others. I’ve never been more disinterested as a fan. He was fucking clueless. Don’t know why yamar always has a wank fest over him. Fuck me he was walked in with the golden ticket. Any half decent manager would get a tune out of Belgium aaron 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mirallas Posted July 6, 2018 Report Share Posted July 6, 2018 1 minute ago, Finn balor said: I enjoyed Martinez in his first season and equally hated his others. I’ve never been more disinterested as a fan. He was fucking clueless. Don’t know why yamar always has a wank fest over him. Fuck me he was walked in with the golden ticket. Any half decent manager would get a tune out of Belgium His management style probably fits international football a lot better than club football. EFC-Paul, daib0, Romey 1878 and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elston Gunnn Posted July 6, 2018 Report Share Posted July 6, 2018 Did I hear right that VAR is at full speed, not slo-mo? Probably have to take Courtois for MOTM. Hazard brilliant, too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
12ubb3rduck3y Posted July 6, 2018 Report Share Posted July 6, 2018 11 minutes ago, EFC-Paul said: "Going out" doesn't matter it's contact clear as day penalty, tbh I'm glad it wasn't awarded anyway it's just deserts with having Neymar in their side So you’re happy for penalties to be awarded when there would be no chance for the player to score had a challenge not been made in the first place? The only way he was getting anything at all from that situation was a penalty kick it’s a tough one but I think it’s the right call in footballing terms. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 6, 2018 Report Share Posted July 6, 2018 17 minutes ago, Finn balor said: I enjoyed Martinez in his first season and equally hated his others. I’ve never been more disinterested as a fan. He was fucking clueless. Don’t know why yamar always has a wank fest over him. Fuck me he was walked in with the golden ticket. Any half decent manager would get a tune out of Belgium I just appreciated him. Your slaggin me off coz your one of many who will have their tail between their legs when he lifts it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Formby Posted July 6, 2018 Report Share Posted July 6, 2018 Delighted for Belgium, their fans, and for Martinez. And even more delighted it was at Brazil's expense (I hate their sense of entitlement and the media fawning all over them). holystove, Elston Gunnn and Mirallas 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted July 6, 2018 Report Share Posted July 6, 2018 European winner assured, Russia (sort of) excepted....go EU guys! daib0, markjazzbassist and Matt 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finn balor Posted July 6, 2018 Report Share Posted July 6, 2018 1 hour ago, yamar said: I just appreciated him. Your slaggin me off coz your one of many who will have their tail between their legs when he lifts it Tell me more about your appreciation. I’d be delighted to know how or what made u appreciate the mess he left us in. Was it the first season that you remember? I think it was. Or let me guess was it the embarrassment of shipping goals left right and centre or the worst derby performance I’ve ever had the emabassment of watching? The guy is a fraud. If he lifts it, it’s because of the players. u get that? PLAYERS! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quinn31 Posted July 6, 2018 Report Share Posted July 6, 2018 1 hour ago, 12ubb3rduck3y said: No way a pen the ball was already out when contact was made. That was my angle on the matter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EFC-Paul Posted July 6, 2018 Report Share Posted July 6, 2018 2 hours ago, 12ubb3rduck3y said: So you’re happy for penalties to be awarded when there would be no chance for the player to score had a challenge not been made in the first place? The only way he was getting anything at all from that situation was a penalty kick it’s a tough one but I think it’s the right call in footballing terms. "So you would be happy" Couldn't give a fuck tbh it's a penalty in my opinion along with many others and there's been thousands of instance's in very similar situations were they are given you don't have to have the ball at your feet or be in a goal scoring position for it to be a penalty Not hard to grasp or see https://mobile.twitter.com/GaryLineker/status/1015316381003321344/video/1 Sibdane 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cornish Steve Posted July 7, 2018 Author Report Share Posted July 7, 2018 8 hours ago, holystove said: If France do win it all they will have gone through Argentina, Uruguay, Brazil/Belgium and England. Would be a very impressive run. You mean Sweden? Sibdane and Peter H 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
holystove Posted July 7, 2018 Report Share Posted July 7, 2018 7 hours ago, Finn balor said: Tell me more about your appreciation. I’d be delighted to know how or what made u appreciate the mess he left us in. Was it the first season that you remember? I think it was. Or let me guess was it the embarrassment of shipping goals left right and centre or the worst derby performance I’ve ever had the emabassment of watching? The guy is a fraud. If he lifts it, it’s because of the players. u get that? PLAYERS! As someone who vividly remembers Wilmots, I disagree it's all about the players. Martinez changed the Japan game with two influential subs. Against Brazil he set up Belgium in a way they haven't played before and it worked great. I wanted him gone at Everton at the end because whatever he tried to do didn't work anymore, but he's not a bad manager. Ghoat, Sibdane, Matt and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 7, 2018 Report Share Posted July 7, 2018 The reason he was sacked was because he had no balls to stand up to our fans. When they demanded the ball be played up to romelu quicker, and he gave in on his philosophy and done as fans wanted, he. Lost everything at that point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Posted July 7, 2018 Report Share Posted July 7, 2018 To all those peeps who said no penalty because the ball was out of play. Let me get this right, if a player is waiting to take a corner or throw in, the centre half headbutts a player smashing his nose and taking a few teeth out, that's ok because the ball was out of play. !! Is that what I'm getting from that statement. ?? EFC-Paul and Sibdane 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sibdane Posted July 7, 2018 Report Share Posted July 7, 2018 Let me just say I was rooting for Belgium. ...but that tackle was a bad one and a foul. Kompany should've gotten a yellow card there, and shouldn't that mean a penalty should be awarded since it's in the box? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete0 Posted July 7, 2018 Report Share Posted July 7, 2018 4 hours ago, holystove said: As someone who vividly remembers Wilmots, I disagree it's all about the players. Martinez changed the Japan game with two influential subs. Against Brazil he set up Belgium in a way they haven't played before and it worked great. I wanted him gone at Everton at the end because whatever he tried to do didn't work anymore, but he's not a bad manager. His outdated physio degree cost him the job. Wanted the players to play like barca with the fitness levels of a pub side. Everything was too slow and he done nothing about it, he was too stubborn to listen to new ideas or try and adapt his catalan roots to the English style. Bad manager more like mad manager constantly doing the same thing and expecting a different result.. markjazzbassist, Matt and EFC-Paul 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markjazzbassist Posted July 7, 2018 Report Share Posted July 7, 2018 2 hours ago, pete0 said: His outdated physio degree cost him the job. Wanted the players to play like barca with the fitness levels of a pub side. Everything was too slow and he done nothing about it, he was too stubborn to listen to new ideas or try and adapt his catalan roots to the English style. Bad manager more like mad manager constantly doing the same thing and expecting a different result.. agreed, also the "workout on your own terms" led to no one putting in time in the weight rooms. baines and barkley admitted so after he left. the fitness was atrocious and the injuries were pulling up (looking at you mccarthy) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailey Posted July 7, 2018 Report Share Posted July 7, 2018 A. You both realise we had a team of medical staff and also fitness coaches. Martinez wasnt the head physio or head fitness coach. We also scored a lot of goals late in games which is usually a couter argument to a lack of fitness. B. The notion that you cant trust professional footballers to actual look after and control their fitness during the season shows how unprofessional they are. I love working under managers that trust me to do my job and dont interfere but obviously our "profressionals" are anything but professional if what you have said is true. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markjazzbassist Posted July 7, 2018 Report Share Posted July 7, 2018 3 hours ago, Bailey said: A. You both realise we had a team of medical staff and also fitness coaches. Martinez wasnt the head physio or head fitness coach. We also scored a lot of goals late in games which is usually a couter argument to a lack of fitness. B. The notion that you cant trust professional footballers to actual look after and control their fitness during the season shows how unprofessional they are. I love working under managers that trust me to do my job and dont interfere but obviously our "profressionals" are anything but professional if what you have said is true. you realize we had a physio and fitness coach quit over martinez overruling their decsions right? that's for A. for B only a unyielding optimist would believe a millionaire 21 year old who is trying to get laid at the clubs every other night would be "hitting the weights" extra time. this is what koeman got right, it's mandatory and always should be. if you want to put in extra time to try and make that next step, sure that's on you, ala Ronaldo, but the basics of fitness, conditioning, weights, etc. should all be mandatory. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rubecula Posted July 7, 2018 Report Share Posted July 7, 2018 if Croatia win it will upset a lot of people Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mirallas Posted July 7, 2018 Report Share Posted July 7, 2018 Everyone is somewhat tired at this stage and Russians seem to effortlessly run like madmen all over the place... hmmm.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rubecula Posted July 7, 2018 Report Share Posted July 7, 2018 cracking goal against Croatia too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted July 7, 2018 Report Share Posted July 7, 2018 Wow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
c1982 Posted July 7, 2018 Report Share Posted July 7, 2018 10 minutes ago, MikeO said: Wow. Amazing tournament! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markjazzbassist Posted July 7, 2018 Report Share Posted July 7, 2018 Croatia england belgium france interesting semis Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EFC-Paul Posted July 7, 2018 Report Share Posted July 7, 2018 I really don't rate Croatia tbh I thought they would be much more of a force but they don't seem to play very cohesively Handful of very good players but seem to be easily thrown out of any rhythm when on the back foot, I think we'll really trouble them with our pace Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
12ubb3rduck3y Posted July 7, 2018 Report Share Posted July 7, 2018 12 hours ago, Bill said: To all those peeps who said no penalty because the ball was out of play. Let me get this right, if a player is waiting to take a corner or throw in, the centre half headbutts a player smashing his nose and taking a few teeth out, that's ok because the ball was out of play. !! Is that what I'm getting from that statement. ?? Umm that would be a red card and the throw in would be taken? Or are you trolling? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Posted July 7, 2018 Report Share Posted July 7, 2018 12 minutes ago, 12ubb3rduck3y said: Umm that would be a red card and the throw in would be taken? Or are you trolling? So should it be a penalty. ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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