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Romey 1878
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Two brilliant autocorrects in here .

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Personally I’m desperate for this to go through, love him or hate him Kenyon most definitely knows how to run a football club He may be ruthless in his approach but I think that’s what we despera

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An attractive proposition then.

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21 hours ago, Romey 1878 said:

And now we're relying on him making the right decision on who to sell to... frightening.

I know what you are saying, but we can be assured that who ever he sells to won’t be made on what’s best for the club, but what’s best for him. Yet knowing that I still want him to sell the club. 
I read some of the the old posts at the time of his takeover and the euphoria and  expectations was huge we were going to be like Man City or Man Utd, instead with one of the biggest budgets in the league we have become more akin to Mansfield Town, can Kenyon who knows his way around a successful club with his consortium really be any worse than Moshiri. 

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1 hour ago, Palfy said:

I know what you are saying, but we can be assured that who ever he sells to won’t be made on what’s best for the club, but what’s best for him. Yet knowing that I still want him to sell the club. 
 

So do I, but what I'm saying is we're now relying on a man that has made shit decision after shit decision to make a good one, The odds are not in our favour :lol:.

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1 hour ago, Palfy said:

I know what you are saying, but we can be assured that who ever he sells to won’t be made on what’s best for the club, but what’s best for him. Yet knowing that I still want him to sell the club. 
I read some of the the old posts at the time of his takeover and the euphoria and  expectations was huge we were going to be like Man City or Man Utd, instead with one of the biggest budgets in the league we have become more akin to Mansfield Town, can Kenyon who knows his way around a successful club with his consortium really be any worse than Moshiri. 

Not sure anyone can be worse than we have been over the last 5years but villa already complaining about prices going up by 40% so that's what will happen next season I presume.

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23 hours ago, RuffRob said:

I have just been reading that some Villa fans are up in arms as they have seen some of there season ticket prices go up by over 40% for this season. You would have to guess that this is one revenue stream any new owners could instant improve for Everton FC when a shiney new stadium is built. What is our current average match day revenue and what would that increase to with extra capacity and say 30% price hike on ticket prices. I am guessing with a  back of a fag packet calculation this could almost double the net profit at each home game - as game day 'overhead' will remain almost the same.

I think it's pretty much expected that prices will go up at the new stadium, this was mentioned a while back when they announced the season ticket price rises, likely increasing a little to soften the blow when we move to the new stadium.

I would hope that they don't raise prices drastically certainly for a majority of the ground as there's nothing to gain by pricing out those that go every week.

The other big profit from the shiny new stadium is that it will have better hospitality and corporate boxes.  This was Arsenal's biggest revenue boost when they built their new stadium (I believe).  Whilst we are unlikely to match Arsenal or Spurs for hospitality demand with their wealth of rich London supporters there are always people willing to pay the VIP treatment when going to a game plus you also get boxes that would be bought for the season by companies to use each week.

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Goodison Park has 14 executive boxes

Arsenal have 146

I think Anfield has 64

As an example price, from the most expensive team so not likely our ball park

I can book an executive box for our game at Emirates for £7,200 (12 people) or one for £9,000 (15 people) so £600 per ticket!  If they had 12 in each one of their boxes that would be a revenue of £1million!  If you look at an individual paying £50 per ticket (roughly our non season ticket price) that's 21,000 people!

There's obviously other options that we offer at the moment like the 1878 brasserie and '85 lounge which I'm sure will in the new ground offer bigger capacity, more options and probably higher prices.

These are where the real match day revenue comes from when building a new ground.

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On top of that by having better facilities, in a better location and with the views across the Mersey to go with it you will make better use of the ground outside of match days.  I don't know how much our facilities get used for corporate things but I went to a conference at Old Trafford once, the space wasn't anything special but having the ground as a back drop works really well.  I've no doubt there would be lots of corporates wanting to use our space at the new stadium.

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Actually to continue on with my out of place thread.

This link shows match day revenue by club, all be in in 2018/19 - https://sqaf.club/premier-league-clubs-matchday-income/

We were making just 0.59m per game

Ignoring Man Utd's huge ground and Arsenal's ridiculous fees 3rd were Liverpool who with 52,983 average attendance were making 3.01m per game!

Southampton and Brighton were only averaging 30,000 per game but were bringing in 0.77m per game, no doubt due to their newer grounds.

Whilst they are the only 2 teams with lower attendances that are above us the gulf in income for fairly small crowd differences is huge.

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I think we definitely have MASSIVE potential for any buyer.

We are currently at a low point in our Premiership performance and showing but really are actually only two or three really decent signings off being a team who would easily be competing in the top half again. This summer we are going to be relatively cheap - would we be valued at 25% more if we had been scrapping in to Europe?

The stadium - its going to be modern as you can get, with everything you would want commercialise and maximize revenue from a clubs single biggest asset. 

We are based in Liverpool, arguably after London one of the most iconic cities in the country and famous throughout the world. Not all cities in the UK have the same kudos.  

The long and short of it is that with the stadium now under construction and costs locked in - for clever people who actually know what they are doing in sport entertainment and football we have massive scope to improve and expand in pretty much every direction. We have the potential to become a very 'fashionable' premier league club if run correctly.

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1 hour ago, RuffRob said:

I think we definitely have MASSIVE potential for any buyer.

We are currently at a low point in our Premiership performance and showing but really are actually only two or three really decent signings off being a team who would easily be competing in the top half again. This summer we are going to be relatively cheap - would we be valued at 25% more if we had been scrapping in to Europe?

The stadium - its going to be modern as you can get, with everything you would want commercialise and maximize revenue from a clubs single biggest asset. 

We are based in Liverpool, arguably after London one of the most iconic cities in the country and famous throughout the world. Not all cities in the UK have the same kudos.  

The long and short of it is that with the stadium now under construction and costs locked in - for clever people who actually know what they are doing in sport entertainment and football we have massive scope to improve and expand in pretty much every direction. We have the potential to become a very 'fashionable' premier league club if run correctly.

If those three signings are a defence, midfield and forward line then I agree

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1 hour ago, duncanmckenzieismagic said:

If those three signings are a defence, midfield and forward line then I agree

I am not talking about breaking on to the top 6 or 7. Just being toward the best of the rest.

To be honest there is not a great deal between teams finishing 8th and 17th in the Premier League. Last season a Conor Gallaghar in the middle of our team and a slightly less brutal injury list and we would have been just as likely to have been battling for 9th and above come the last couple of games of season. 

 

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58 minutes ago, duncanmckenzieismagic said:

https://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/exclusive-potential-new-everton-owners-24354376

This puts my mind at ease

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The ECHO has also been informed that any deal to purchase the club will be 100 per cent equity and there will be no debt used and the kind of leveraged buyout that was seen at Burnley last year by ALK Capital won't be seen at Goodison Park.

 

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I think that the consortium trying to buy us are very aware that we are big club that has been mismanaged, and that they have all the right ingredients to turn us around. I hope this deal goes through and it’s a win win situation for us and them, not many clubs get a second chance of billionaire owners after failing so miserably the first time round. 

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2 hours ago, Palfy said:

I think that the consortium trying to buy us are very aware that we are big club that has been mismanaged, and that they have all the right ingredients to turn us around. I hope this deal goes through and it’s a win win situation for us and them, not many clubs get a second chance of billionaire owners after failing so miserably the first time round. 

A new owner can only be a good thing - I have not problem with a group of money people coming even if there end goal is to maximize a profit for a consortium. The best way or only way to really make more money in football - is to get a better team and become more profitable. 

In this day of FFP it is all really going to be about having the best sport/football business people in at the top of the club. I have said it before, we are a club currently run by dinosaurs and dreamers - its no good in this day and age. It is time to now have modern business professionals to get the club on a even keel and run it like the business it needs to be to be successful in the global modern game. 

 

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The proposed takeover of Everton was thrown into serious doubt on Friday night with sources close to majority shareholder Farhad Moshiri claiming a deal with the Peter Kenyon-led consortium was off.

The exclusivity period granted to the group led by Kenyon, which was being bankrolled by American businessman Maciek Kaminski, expired on Thursday night, but sources close to the consortium insisted they were unaware of negotiations ending.

There was surprise at Moshiri’s claim, as work was said to still be ongoing between the Kenyon-led group and their lawyers at trying to find an agreement and provide proof of funds.

As reported by Telegraph Sport, Kenyon’s group, which included Kaminski and another American businessman John Thornton, had hoped to reach an agreement to buy the club by July 21.

But Moshiri’s camp were adamant that talks had been called off and will not be revived, with the 67-year-old apparently wanting to focus on stadium financing and squad strengthening.

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The news will cause surprise and significant concern among Everton supporters, who had seen star player Richarlison complete a move to Tottenham Hotspur earlier in the day. 

As first reported by Telegraph Sport, Kenyon’s group had signed heads of terms and believed they had broadly reached agreement over a deal to buy Everton for over £500million.

The consortium had also vowed to fund the building of the new stadium and make transfer funds available to head coach Frank Lampard.

A period of exclusivity had been granted to the group, which allowed them to negotiate with Everton without the threat of a rival bidder holding takeover talks.

Kaminski travelled to England to meet Moshiri in person and visited the site at Bramley-Moore Dock, where Everton’s new stadium will be built.

But the expiry of exclusivity and the claims of sources close to Moshiri have put a major question mark over the future of Everton and a pivotal time for the club.

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