Feedback & Content Requests

[StevO]

If there is anything you would like to see in here then please let me know.

[Zoo 2.0]

Is there any way I can save the XXX selfies that @Romey 1878 sends me? I've built up quite the collection and afraid of losing it should the forum go down.

[Matt]

4 minutes ago, Zoo 2.0 said:

Is there any way I can save the XXX selfies that @Romey 1878 sends me? I've built up quite the collection and afraid of losing it should the forum go down.

I thought he'd stopped his modelling career

[Romey 1878]

The fuck is going on here?!

[StevO]

1 hour ago, Zoo 2.0 said:

Is there any way I can save the XXX selfies that @Romey 1878 sends me? I've built up quite the collection and afraid of losing it should the forum go down.

I’ve already made TTXXX.com, I’ll send you the password. 
It’ll be a big help to have more content. So far all I’ve got is a few selfies of Palfy in the shower and Haf at the driving range. 

[Matt]

3 minutes ago, StevO said:

I’ve already made TTXXX.com, I’ll send you the password. 
It’ll be a big help to have more content. So far all I’ve got is a few selfies of Palfy in the shower and Haf at the driving range. 

I've got one of Shukes with his mini-fridge and strategically placed bottle of red wine 

[Palfy]

I've got a question why are all the threads closed to all members bar mods?

[Matt]

3 hours ago, Palfy said:

I've got a question why are all the threads closed to all members bar mods?

I presume because Steve just wanted to share the information, not use the threads as a place for discussion (we've got a stadium thread). 

What I want to know is why I can't put them on ignore

 

[StevO]

12 hours ago, Palfy said:

I've got a question why are all the threads closed to all members bar mods?

We have a discussion place for the stadium, and didn’t want this to be a place for discussion. This was designed to be a place for information, as Matt said. 
 

I also wanted to see the response this set up got before making any changes. 
 

8 hours ago, Matt said:

I presume because Steve just wanted to share the information, not use the threads as a place for discussion (we've got a stadium thread). 

What I want to know is why I can't put them on ignore

 

Ooh, don’t know why you can’t. But this is first time I’ve made a new section on here. It took me about ten goes to get it this far.

[Palfy]

3 minutes ago, StevO said:

We have a discussion place for the stadium, and didn’t want this to be a place for discussion. This was designed to be a place for information, as Matt said. 
 

I also wanted to see the response this set up got before making any changes. 
 

Ooh, don’t know why you can’t. But this is first time I’ve made a new section on here. It took me about ten goes to get it this far.

When you first started it and they were all closed, I thought exactly as you said, you just wanted to keep them clean and only information relevant to be added as a way of informing people of the Stadium progression, then Mike confused me by adding a post that didn't make sense in the context of the forum, I noticed Matt had made a post before which was very much in keeping with the flavour of the forum. And for the record I think what you have done and the way you have set it up is brilliant  

[StevO]

15 minutes ago, Palfy said:

When you first started it and they were all closed, I thought exactly as you said, you just wanted to keep them clean and only information relevant to be added as a way of informing people of the Stadium progression, then Mike confused me by adding a post that didn't make sense in the context of the forum, I noticed Matt had made a post before which was very much in keeping with the flavour of the forum. And for the record I think what you have done and the way you have set it up is brilliant  

Thank you  

Now I need to find Mike’s post.

[Cornish Steve]

18 minutes ago, Palfy said:

When you first started it and they were all closed, I thought exactly as you said, you just wanted to keep them clean and only information relevant to be added as a way of informing people of the Stadium progression, then Mike confused me by adding a post that didn't make sense in the context of the forum, I noticed Matt had made a post before which was very much in keeping with the flavour of the forum. And for the record I think what you have done and the way you have set it up is brilliant  

Daily event. Haven't you noticed?

[StevO]

2 hours ago, Palfy said:

When you first started it and they were all closed, I thought exactly as you said, you just wanted to keep them clean and only information relevant to be added as a way of informing people of the Stadium progression, then Mike confused me by adding a post that didn't make sense in the context of the forum, I noticed Matt had made a post before which was very much in keeping with the flavour of the forum. And for the record I think what you have done and the way you have set it up is brilliant  

Fixed it.

[StevO]

Can I ask, are people finding this helpful or enjoyable having this on TT? 

Is it helpful having things in the one space?

Are you looking at content you might not have seen if it wasn’t here?

Dont want to do it for nothing and if it’s not bringing anything to the members here on TT. 

[MikeO]

2 hours ago, Palfy said:

When you first started it and they were all closed, I thought exactly as you said, you just wanted to keep them clean and only information relevant to be added as a way of informing people of the Stadium progression, then Mike confused me by adding a post that didn't make sense in the context of the forum, I noticed Matt had made a post before which was very much in keeping with the flavour of the forum. And for the record I think what you have done and the way you have set it up is brilliant  

I've not posted anything at all in this section (until now obviously), so now I'm confused as well

[StevO]

13 minutes ago, MikeO said:

I've not posted anything at all in this section (until now obviously), so now I'm confused as well

If you look at the last post in the stadium discussion it was one you posted in the Paul Frost thread.

Have a few beers last night Mike?

[MikeO]

1 hour ago, StevO said:

If you look at the last post in the stadium discussion it was one you posted in the Paul Frost thread.

Have a few beers last night Mike?

That was in the Blue Bill thread on the main site though, not in this section....unless I'm missing something

[StevO]

1 hour ago, MikeO said:

That was in the Blue Bill thread on the main site though, not in this section....unless I'm missing something

it was in the Paul Frost thread. I moved it earlier. 

[Palfy]

There are some huge pieces of cast concrete coming to site, these would have been poured over a month before they arrived, and dried to make sure they achieve their optimum strength before being fitted. To think they are making pieces weeks before the sections they fit onto have even been completed and sent to site, I find the precision of good engineering and architecture astounding if not brave. Okay I know everything is computerised these days with CAD software which is a huge help in building design, but still find it incredibly fascinating that more doesn't go wrong than goes right. 

[StevO]

7 hours ago, Palfy said:

There are some huge pieces of cast concrete coming to site, these would have been poured over a month before they arrived, and dried to make sure they achieve their optimum strength before being fitted. To think they are making pieces weeks before the sections they fit onto have even been completed and sent to site, I find the precision of good engineering and architecture astounding if not brave. Okay I know everything is computerised these days with CAD software which is a huge help in building design, but still find it incredibly fascinating that more doesn't go wrong than goes right. 

I saw a video on YouTube a while back showing some of the work done at Laing O’Rourke’s plant. It’s very impressive. If I get chance I’ll try to find it. 
Each section of concrete and steel is made with a very small tolerance for adjustments to be made on site, but watching the videos of the fellas assembling things on site it looks like each piece fits perfectly. 
 

My uncle used to work alongside Colin Chong at Laing O’Rourke, said he’s a very very good operator, but they have been making buildings using this technique for ages. That’s why they are so confident in the technology, the partners who make the steel, and their ability to control costs. 
 

I drove past a lorry with some of the steel work on the back a few days ago, when they are up there at the top of the north and south stands they look so thin. When they are right next to you on the motorway they are bloody massive!!!

[MikeO]

1 hour ago, StevO said:

I saw a video on YouTube a while back showing some of the work done at Laing O’Rourke’s plant. It’s very impressive.

This?

 

[Palfy]

1 hour ago, StevO said:

I saw a video on YouTube a while back showing some of the work done at Laing O’Rourke’s plant. It’s very impressive. If I get chance I’ll try to find it. 
Each section of concrete and steel is made with a very small tolerance for adjustments to be made on site, but watching the videos of the fellas assembling things on site it looks like each piece fits perfectly. 
 

My uncle used to work alongside Colin Chong at Laing O’Rourke, said he’s a very very good operator, but they have been making buildings using this technique for ages. That’s why they are so confident in the technology, the partners who make the steel, and their ability to control costs. 
 

I drove past a lorry with some of the steel work on the back a few days ago, when they are up there at the top of the north and south stands they look so thin. When they are right next to you on the motorway they are bloody massive!!!

I also watched the video where they built the stadium as 3D model prior to the commencement of the build, so that they could solve any potential problems before they started. I know they've been building this way for years, but I find it fascinating how they push the boundaries of architecture and engineering, to create buildings that seem to break the laws of physics, and are stunningly complex and beautiful. I'll take my Kevin McCloud hat off now I'm starting to sound like an Anorak

[StevO]

6 hours ago, MikeO said:

This?

 

Possibly. Just waiting for my daughter to fall asleep then I’ll have a look. 

[StevO]

5 hours ago, Palfy said:

I also watched the video where they built the stadium as 3D model prior to the commencement of the build, so that they could solve any potential problems before they started. I know they've been building this way for years, but I find it fascinating how they push the boundaries of architecture and engineering, to create buildings that seem to break the laws of physics, and are stunningly complex and beautiful. I'll take my Kevin McCloud hat off now I'm starting to sound like an Anorak

I’m with you completely. I’ve been a fan of Grand Designs for years, never worked in any sort of construction (born and bred in the motor trade), but I find construction fascinating. Add into that this being Everton and I feel addicted. 

[barryj]

Cheers @StevO been looking for those files for ages! I had them originally but couldn’t locate them recently. I’m a bit of a stadium geek. 

[StevO]

5 hours ago, barryj said:

Cheers @StevO been looking for those files for ages! I had them originally but couldn’t locate them recently. I’m a bit of a stadium geek. 

Just like myself.

Im about to watch Mister Drone’s video with the first roof truss going up. 

[barryj]

22 hours ago, StevO said:

Just like myself.

Im about to watch Mister Drone’s video with the first roof truss going up. 

Just seen - looking good. I was down the before the Leicester game briefly. The speed of the build is incredible. 

[StevO]

1 hour ago, barryj said:

Just seen - looking good. I was down the before the Leicester game briefly. The speed of the build is incredible. 

Sitting down with a brew to watch Paul Frosts half hour video now. 
 

I’ve got a meeting in Bottle in a couple of weeks, so great excuse for lunch at Ten Streets Social and take a look at the site. 

[Zoo 2.0]

1 hour ago, StevO said:

I've got a meeting in Bottle in a couple of weeks, so great excuse for lunch at Ten Streets Social and take a look at the site. 

Will raise a glass if all goes well, hope it's a cork-er. 

[Matt]

22 hours ago, Zoo 2.0 said:

Will raise a glass if all goes well, hope it's a cork-er. 

Maybe draft some questions in case. 

[StevO]

Thanks for the help Matt.

Everton keep throwing me off, putting these videos on Twitter a few days before YouTube. 

[StevO]

Apparently the site has closed until new year now, so I think this weekends updates will be the last for a couple of weeks. 

[Palfy]

Really enjoyed Mister Drones last video, can see clearly why there looks like a lack of exit stairwells for exiting the stands, could be a long time for the people at the top of the stands to exit the stadium, but the downside of more stairwells means less capacity, so an extra 10 minutes or so to leave the ground is a small compromise for a larger capacity. 

[StevO]

36 minutes ago, Palfy said:

Really enjoyed Mister Drones last video, can see clearly why there looks like a lack of exit stairwells for exiting the stands, could be a long time for the people at the top of the stands to exit the stadium, but the downside of more stairwells means less capacity, so an extra 10 minutes or so to leave the ground is a small compromise for a larger capacity. 

The offset of that is there are more exits from the stadium, and more stairwells inside the stands, so it should flow pretty well. The bigger concourses will help too. 

[Palfy]

Finding it hard to get excited about the new stadium at the moment, all the shite going on surrounding the club, team, manager, and the reality that we will probably be relegated as completely taken the gloss off the new stadium for me, so much so that I'm now starting to look at it as a potential financial sentence whether kept by the club or sold to an investor.  

[StevO]

5 minutes ago, Palfy said:

Finding it hard to get excited about the new stadium at the moment, all the shite going on surrounding the club, team, manager, and the reality that we will probably be relegated as completely taken the gloss off the new stadium for me, so much so that I'm now starting to look at it as a potential financial sentence whether kept by the club or sold to an investor.  

I’m the same. I’ve been looking forward to every video that comes out, but now it feels like a chore. I want to get back to being excited about it, after all, we’ve waited about 20 years to be at this point. 
The only thing I can see from this is that should by some miracle we stay in the premier league, the stadium could make the club more valuable and make Moshiri some money so he fucks off. If he does I don’t see any new buyer keeping the rest of the clowns in a job. I don’t want to derail this section of the site, I put it together for one reason, but it’s tough right now isn’t it?

[Palfy]

25 minutes ago, StevO said:

I’m the same. I’ve been looking forward to every video that comes out, but now it feels like a chore. I want to get back to being excited about it, after all, we’ve waited about 20 years to be at this point. 
The only thing I can see from this is that should by some miracle we stay in the premier league, the stadium could make the club more valuable and make Moshiri some money so he fucks off. If he does I don’t see any new buyer keeping the rest of the clowns in a job. I don’t want to derail this section of the site, I put it together for one reason, but it’s tough right now isn’t it?

I wouldn't want or expect you to derail what you have put together, the locomotive has already left the station so we need to see it reach it's destination. My biggest problem is I don't trust Moshiri he hasn't got or doesn't want to put his own money in to finish the project. I worry if he can't find a buyer for Club and ground, he may try and sell the ground independently of the Club to claw back his losses. 

[Matt]

13 hours ago, Palfy said:

I wouldn't want or expect you to derail what you have put together, the locomotive has already left the station so we need to see it reach it's destination. My biggest problem is I don't trust Moshiri he hasn't got or doesn't want to put his own money in to finish the project. I worry if he can't find a buyer for Club and ground, he may try and sell the ground independently of the Club to claw back his losses. 

Is Palfy Mr Burns?!

[Romey 1878]

17 hours ago, Palfy said:

Finding it hard to get excited about the new stadium at the moment, all the shite going on surrounding the club, team, manager, and the reality that we will probably be relegated as completely taken the gloss off the new stadium for me, so much so that I'm now starting to look at it as a potential financial sentence whether kept by the club or sold to an investor.  

 

17 hours ago, StevO said:

I’m the same. I’ve been looking forward to every video that comes out, but now it feels like a chore. I want to get back to being excited about it, after all, we’ve waited about 20 years to be at this point. 
The only thing I can see from this is that should by some miracle we stay in the premier league, the stadium could make the club more valuable and make Moshiri some money so he fucks off. If he does I don’t see any new buyer keeping the rest of the clowns in a job. I don’t want to derail this section of the site, I put it together for one reason, but it’s tough right now isn’t it?

The thing will probably fucking sink the day after it's opened with the way things are going with this club.

[Matt]

37 minutes ago, Romey 1878 said:

 

The thing will probably fucking sink the day after it's opened with the way things are going with this club.

I've got the Monty Python sketch in my head now

[Palfy]

2 hours ago, Romey 1878 said:

 

The thing will probably fucking sink the day after it's opened with the way things are going with this club.

We're be singing we all live in a yellow submarine

[Palfy]

5 hours ago, Matt said:

Is Palfy Mr Burns?!

Cheers mate please call me John

[StevO]

Oh shit, I’ve recently employed a guy called John Burns. I need to ask some questions tomorrow. 

[MikeO]

8 minutes ago, StevO said:

Oh shit, I’ve recently employed a guy called John Burns. I need to ask some questions tomorrow. 

Ask him to do a karaoke number and if he chooses this then be worried...

 

[Matt]

17 minutes ago, StevO said:

Oh shit, I’ve recently employed a guy called John Burns. I need to ask some questions tomorrow. 

Invite him into the office but have a Hornby trainset box on the side table and see if he can hold a conversation.

[Matt]

8 minutes ago, MikeO said:

Ask him to do a karaoke number and if he chooses this then be worried...

 

Fucking hate that song.

[MikeO]

1 minute ago, Matt said:

Fucking hate that song.

I do too.

Hammond was a very talented guy (and a good mate of my dad) who wrote and recorded some great stuff, but quite what he'd been smoking before recording this one is a total mystery.

[StevO]

On these videos, the club being in such a shambles and an awful state, a few of the drone operators have now chosen to ignore the time and day requests the club have had in place for a while. Just one more group of people with little/less respect for the club. 

[Palfy]

2 hours ago, StevO said:

On these videos, the club being in such a shambles and an awful state, a few of the drone operators have now chosen to ignore the time and day requests the club have had in place for a while. Just one more group of people with little/less respect for the club. 

Kudos to them why should they respect the clubs wishes, when clearly the club doesn't respect its fans. 

[StevO]

The last few uploaded videos have felt like a chore for the first time. The enthusiasm just hasn’t been there. But after watching Barry’s video tonight I was reminded that this new stadium will be stunning. It already looks so good under the lights and we’re half way through the build. The club is a shambles, no doubt, but thankfully there are some really talented people like Dan Meis, Colin Chong, the team at Laing O’Rourke who are bringing it together, the people at the steel and prefab concrete factories, the crane operators, the people getting their hands dirty on site and the contractors doing the work we can’t see yet inside the stadium. These people are doing a great job. At the moment they are the only positives around Everton, today I’m a bit more grateful to them for their efforts.
 

And the fellas going out in the crappy weather, flying their own drones, editing the videos and putting them out there for us to see. Do them a favour and hit like if you watch any of their videos. 
 

I really hope this stadium is in the Premier League. 

[Romey 1878]

2 hours ago, StevO said:

The last few uploaded videos have felt like a chore for the first time. The enthusiasm just hasn’t been there. But after watching Barry’s video tonight I was reminded that this new stadium will be stunning. It already looks so good under the lights and we’re half way through the build. The club is a shambles, no doubt, but thankfully there are some really talented people like Dan Meis, Colin Chong, the team at Laing O’Rourke who are bringing it together, the people at the steel and prefab concrete factories, the crane operators, the people getting their hands dirty on site and the contractors doing the work we can’t see yet inside the stadium. These people are doing a great job. At the moment they are the only positives around Everton, today I’m a bit more grateful to them for their efforts.
 

And the fellas going out in the crappy weather, flying their own drones, editing the videos and putting them out there for us to see. Do them a favour and hit like if you watch any of their videos. 
 

I really hope this stadium is in the Premier League. 

When do we think the announcement is coming that we’ve ran out of money and building will have to cease?  

[Palfy]

I will be honest I haven't watched any of the last few weeks videos my heart just isn't in it right now, but I know they are there and when the time is right for me to look and enjoy I will. 

[Shukes]

Haven’t watched any since Christmas as I am going up Saturday morning to visit. Lad is ants to go to the site and take a look so I have tried my best to stay away from videos. 
Hopefully this will give us a little hope in a dark season.

[Palfy]

We haven't seen or heard much from Kenwright, do you think there's any chance he's been buried in the fresh concrete poured on the East Stand. 

[StevO]

3 hours ago, Palfy said:

We haven't seen or heard much from Kenwright, do you think there's any chance he's been buried in the fresh concrete poured on the East Stand. 

If wouldn’t surprise me if when he gets to his final days he has already planned for his body to be preserved in bronze and put at the top of the new western terrace. 

[Romey 1878]

Turn his ashes into a toilet at BMD and I’ll happily take a shit in it. 

[Palfy]

I would be very interested to know if there has been much settlement or more or less than expected considering what the stadium has been built on. I vaguely remember watching a documentary many years ago, about an airport that was built on a similar structure that was sinking and moving at an alarming rate, can't remember whether it was in Japan or if the architect was Japanese but from memory it was along those lines. Would be interesting to know though all the same. Steve over to you mate

[StevO]

18 hours ago, Palfy said:

I would be very interested to know if there has been much settlement or more or less than expected considering what the stadium has been built on. I vaguely remember watching a documentary many years ago, about an airport that was built on a similar structure that was sinking and moving at an alarming rate, can't remember whether it was in Japan or if the architect was Japanese but from memory it was along those lines. Would be interesting to know though all the same. Steve over to you mate

I can answer this, I think.

though the stadium is built on sand, it’s not actually sitting on the sand. It’s more like the sand is under it but not part of the structure. 
There are a series of piles that form the foundation. Each load bearing part of the stadium is connected to the piles. There are hundreds of them. If I remember right, each pile goes down about 20 meters into the ground. 
I think that’s somewhat accurate but I might be wrong. Maybe I’ll check the plans again when I’ve chance.