Jump to content
Sign in to follow this  
Shy_Talk

Davy Klaassen

Recommended Posts

would provide the challenge Barkley needs, however I cant see where he fits in with a fully fit squad, would be a good buy no doubt.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Seen him play a few times. Imo a good buy at 7-9m, but definitely not more.

I mentioned him a few months ago and got shot to pieces for it.

 

Not good enough, no better than Naismith they said.

 

Actually I have some dutch friends who I talk football with. They rate him quite highly but say he blows hot and cold too often. When Klaassen has a good game then Ajax have a good game, when he struggles then it seems the whole team do and this happens quite a bit.

 

That said I would certainly have him in the squad. He would improve upon what we have and he has bags of energy, pace to burn and can spot a pass.

 

He would be a great signing for under £10m if we could get him.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Think people forget how good Fellaini can be.

I agree. He is at his best when deployed behind the striker. At Utd he is playing in defence midfield and he is useless at it. He can't play further forward because Rooney and Ibrahimovic both drop off so that encroaches into his territory. It's the same problem that afflicts Pogba. Pogba also like to burst out of midfield but the space he wants to run into is occupied by his team mates.

 

I'd have had Fellaini back honestly and I think Lukaku would really have benefited from him being up there and winning aerial challenges.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

I agree. He is at his best when deployed behind the striker. At Utd he is playing in defence midfield and he is useless at it. He can't play further forward because Rooney and Ibrahimovic both drop off so that encroaches into his territory. It's the same problem that afflicts Pogba. Pogba also like to burst out of midfield but the space he wants to run into is occupied by his team mates.

 

I'd have had Fellaini back honestly and I think Lukaku would really have benefited from him being up there and winning aerial challenges.

I'd say DM is his best position. He completely bossed Man City when playing there for us. This game

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/eng_prem/8456839.stm

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

And I think people are forgetting what a masterful tactician Mourinho is. 14 finals, 12 wins, isn't it? He sets out to frustrate opponents, and he's especially adept against sides that play the style of Ajax/Barcelona. His whole "thing" is exploiting that style with a resolute, well-organized defense and attacking players that will get the job done on the counter. Look at the way he deployed Fellaini the other day. Always available to receive the long diagonal ball. He had United 60 yards upfield in a matter of seconds.

 

Fact of the matter is that United has a deep bench full of a variety of styles of quality player. Mourinho put together an XI to go along with a game plan (stifle and frustrate Ajax and exploit their youth and inexperience). Fellaini was a key part of that. Fellaini catches a lot of unnecessary flak, but he's always been an excellent midfielder and a matchup nightmare for opposing teams. You just have to deploy him with a purpose.

 

Back to Klaassen and Dolberg. Again, you can't judge them on this performance, because, tactically, they were never going to get a sniff. Ajax didn't have a plan b. Mourinho made them look impotent.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Say this to a united fan mate of mine and he refuses to believe me.

 

When he came to everton he was one of the best holding mids in the league.

Same here. Arrogant bunch of wankers most of them, care more about there fifa rating. I've not seen Pogba play any where near the level of Fellaini yet the bum him.

 

Completely agree.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

 

AC is really making a statement right now.

 

They're getting the types of players we should be getting/going after. Maybe we are, but it just doesn't feel like it.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

how is that ok with FFP? they're in Europa i believe.

theyll pay a fine and get on with it, ala City and PSG (I think)

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

theyll pay a fine and get on with it, ala City and PSG (I think)

 

Exactly, the fine won't be anything near the amount they'll pay to get these players. They'll probably start factoring the fines into the acquisition prices.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

 

Within 10 days apparently. Good to know that planning we've been doing since January has been fruitful.

Wouldn't say no! Seems to have had a great couple of seasons for Ajax. I'm always really sceptical when it comes to signings from the Dutch league though.

 

As long as the fee is low(ish) I'm happy. Seems to love arriving late and scoring a goal.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Just had a snoop on their forums not a great deal said bar speculation but one of them said he's heard it's a done deal £20m

 

I'd be very happy with him here if it happens

 

Keane Klaassen and Sandro would be a great start....... Please

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Apparently Spurs are sniffing- if that's true we all know the drill.

Doubt it unless they lose a key player, a midfield graveyard

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

He was class before the injury, he's still so young I have no doubt he will bounce back

It's been his hip that's been problem, that's not something I'd like to take a risk on. And he wouldn't be cheap.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

£26m....he better be worth it.

 

Some suggesting he's not an outright playmaker, more of a mini Lampard who bursts forward when attacking.

 

I thought we needed a playmaker who was interchangeable with other attacking positions...?

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Reminds me of naismith..... maybe it's the hair and build.

 

That's actually a fair comparison. A 24 year old Naismith could have torn up the Dutch league and then disappear in the Europe League final just as well as Klaassen.

 

Now the question is, who would pay 26m for a younger version of Naismith..

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

"Capable of playing as a deep-lying playmaker, a box-to-box midfielder or higher up as a No.10, Klaassens versatility makes him a prized asset."

 

Read of few articles on him he seems very versatile and models his game on Bergkamp who played similar positions until he eventually became a number 10

 

He's a mixture of a few things we've needed for awhile a playmaker but can play as a number 10, depends on what happens with Ross imo where he could potentially play.... Possible partner for Ramirez?

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

 

That's actually a fair comparison. A 24 year old Naismith could have torn up the Dutch league and then disappear in the Europe League final just as well as Klaassen.

 

Now the question is, who would pay 26m for a younger version of Naismith..

 

Bar them both looking like Silas from The Da Vinci Code he doesn't seem to be in any way shape or form a similar player to Naismith

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Bar them both looking like Silas from The Da Vinci Code he doesn't seem to be in any way shape or form a similar player to Naismith

 

well if you're expecting Bergkamp 2.0 you're in for a surprise.

 

I hope I'll be proven wrong, I can only go on what I've seen from him so far. Once live (for The Netherlands), completely anonymous playing against proven Premier League midfielders, and numerous times on TV where he flourishes in the poor Dutch league but disappears in the biggest game of the season against ManU.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

My mate follows Ajax a lot and has described him as a poor mans Christian Erikson, but not to the point where you wouldn't want him. Would need to change bits of his game but overall would be a decent signing. (He's a Kopite so could be talking utter shite which wouldn't be rare for those lot).

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

 

well if you're expecting Bergkamp 2.0 you're in for a surprise.

 

I hope I'll be proven wrong, I can only go on what I've seen from him so far. Once live (for The Netherlands), completely anonymous playing against proven Premier League midfielders, and numerous times on TV where he flourishes in the poor Dutch league but disappears in the biggest game of the season against ManU.

I'm not expecting anything that's how he describes himself as do Managers who have managed him

 

I know one thing though the lad isn't comparable to bloody Naismith, people have made a daft comparison because he's a pale bolding footballer!

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

£26m....he better be worth it.

 

Some suggesting he's not an outright playmaker, more of a mini Lampard who bursts forward when attacking.

 

I thought we needed a playmaker who was interchangeable with other attacking positions...?

That's euros I think mate

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Jesus- that's pricey for a player from the Dutch league- hopefully he's decent. Have to admit I know nothing of the lad.

It's more than Suarez! Although the market has changed since that deal.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Create an account or sign in to comment

You need to be a member in order to leave a comment

Create an account

Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!

Register a new account

Sign in

Already have an account? Sign in here.

Sign In Now

Sign in to follow this  

  • Recently Browsing   0 members

    No registered users viewing this page.

×