Peter H Posted August 8, 2014 Report Share Posted August 8, 2014 First edition, or revised edition? Damnyouautocorrect Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prevenger17 Posted August 8, 2014 Report Share Posted August 8, 2014 Now we have a Mohammed and a Christian on the team, maybe we should be looking for a Buddha Smith? I'm a big fan of Zoroastrian O'Hara, great turn of pace and I don't think he's ever given a bad cross. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 10, 2014 Report Share Posted August 10, 2014 Ramadan can't come soon enough. Its just finished Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted August 12, 2014 Report Share Posted August 12, 2014 http://www.theguardian.com/football/2014/aug/11/hatem-ben-arfa-newcastle-unofficial-meeting-fans Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paddock Posted August 12, 2014 Report Share Posted August 12, 2014 Hmmm I'm not sure on this one. I'd love him here I think he's a great player but he's a bit of a loose cannon. Makes you wonder how his attitude will be if he's benched or dropped if he isn't playing well. A new start could be the making of him though . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted August 12, 2014 Report Share Posted August 12, 2014 He's a bit like Bellamy with regards his attitude, but get him onside and you have a quality player. There is a risk with him though - he has a very quick temper. Toffee_in_LA, StevO and Matt 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jofanon Posted August 12, 2014 Report Share Posted August 12, 2014 Looks a bit of a fatty in recent photos Wont be able to play for quite some time if we bought him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MC11 Posted August 12, 2014 Report Share Posted August 12, 2014 We should go for him at all cost. He's a direct replacement for the ageing Pienaar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluenosetoffee Posted August 12, 2014 Report Share Posted August 12, 2014 We should go for him at all cost. He's a direct replacement for the ageing Pienaar. I wouldn't say he is a direct replacement. Pienaar is a work horse who will track back when Baines goes forward. Ben Arfa is lazy doesn't track back much and isn't consistent enough. I would say Martinez would look at Atsu as a direct replacement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted August 12, 2014 Report Share Posted August 12, 2014 I wouldn't say he is a direct replacement. Pienaar is a work horse who will track back when Baines goes forward. Ben Arfa is lazy doesn't track back much and isn't consistent enough. I would say Martinez would look at Atsu as a direct replacement. Agreed, and I wouldn't say at all cost either. The 1.5 - 3m bracket is worth a gamble worth taking. No more than that please. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluenosetoffee Posted August 12, 2014 Report Share Posted August 12, 2014 (edited) Agreed, and I wouldn't say at all cost either. The 1.5 - 3m bracket is worth a gamble worth taking. No more than that please. I wouldn't want him at the club, just had a quick search on him and these are some of his past instances.... "While at Clairefontaine, he was a part of A la Clairefontaine, a documentary series which chronicled the lives of some of France's top young footballers during their time at the academy.[9][10] During the series, an episode showed Ben Arfa getting into an argument with Abou Diaby" "Despite rumors of a rift between himself and Benzema, Ben Arfa signed a contract extension with Lyon in March 2008 until 2010.[24][25] However, his career at Lyon reached an impasse after he got into a training session scuffle with veteran Sébastien Squillaci" "Similar to his actions in leaving Lyon, Ben Arfa responded to the statement by telling the French sports newspaper L'Equipe that he would not be returning to La Commanderie, Marseille's training facility, and would not play with the team for the remainder of the season.[66][67] He also stated that his relationship with Deschamps had turned sour and was beyond repair.[68][69] Ben Arfa confirmed his intentions by travelling to Newcastle upon Tyne, without authorization, with hopes that Newcastle and Marseille would come to an agreement.[70] After returning to Marseille, he missed several training sessions with his parent club and was, subsequently, left off the match day squad for two league matches against Valenciennes and Lorient.[71] Ben Arfa's number 10 was later given to new signing André-Pierre Gignac, which signaled a transfer was imminent" I realize that anybody can copy and paste but to me he seems to bring trouble wherever he goes, either with the manager, chairman or players. I don't think I would want a player like him at our club. I haven't even mentioned the Newcastle incident with him and Pardew.... Even if he was 1.5 - 3 million, would you want him at the club? Edited August 12, 2014 by bluenosetoffee Steve_E 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sibdane Posted August 12, 2014 Report Share Posted August 12, 2014 To be fair, Pardew and Deschamps aren't known for their man-management skills; however, Martinez is. Matt 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paddock Posted August 12, 2014 Report Share Posted August 12, 2014 Agreed, and I wouldn't say at all cost either. The 1.5 - 3m bracket is worth a gamble worth taking. No more than that please. Yep , pretty much my thoughts on it. No way would I be wanting to pay more than 3 million because of the baggage and risks involved. It's a big gamble but one that could pay off handsomely. Could slso bite us in the arse as well like so that for me is why the fee would have to be so small. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 12, 2014 Report Share Posted August 12, 2014 I reckon Pardew would get rid of him for free to free up his wages Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailey Posted August 12, 2014 Report Share Posted August 12, 2014 I think he is trouble. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brett Angel Posted August 12, 2014 Report Share Posted August 12, 2014 maradona was trouble.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailey Posted August 12, 2014 Report Share Posted August 12, 2014 maradona was trouble.... If Ben Arfa was even a 10th as good as Maradona you would take the risk but he isnt. I also dont think Maradona caused as much trouble in the dressing room as Ben Arfa already has. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brett Angel Posted August 12, 2014 Report Share Posted August 12, 2014 If Ben Arfa was even a 10th as good as Maradona you would take the risk but he isnt. I also dont think Maradona caused as much trouble in the dressing room as Ben Arfa already has. This only means you condone disruption if there really good. You sound like a contradicting liverpool fan now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailey Posted August 12, 2014 Report Share Posted August 12, 2014 This only means you condone disruption if there really good. You sound like a contradicting liverpool fan now. If they are going to bring in more points through their performances then they are going to lose from the disruption then you have to weigh up whether its a risk you want to take. My point is that I dont see the point in taking the risk on a player who isnt worth it and clearly doesnt have enough respect for his employers, the fans and the game itself to get himself in shape. Wanting someone based on reputation is more of Liverpool fan thing which also seems to be happening on the Richards thread as well. pete0 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevO Posted August 12, 2014 Report Share Posted August 12, 2014 If he came in it would have to be under very strict circumstances, and be on the bench for a few months to make him realise how lucky he is when he finally gets to play. As there have been no rumours since, I wouldn't expect it to happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rubecula Posted August 28, 2014 Report Share Posted August 28, 2014 http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/football-transfers/10826604/Transfer-rumours-Premier-League-gossip-and-news.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MC11 Posted August 31, 2014 Report Share Posted August 31, 2014 Rejected a move to Besiktas. Birmingham have asked for him on loan.... Surely surely worth a last minute punt!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest blueboy122 Posted August 31, 2014 Report Share Posted August 31, 2014 No not for me although he does have ability. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted September 1, 2014 Report Share Posted September 1, 2014 Hull have contacted Newcastle about signing him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MC11 Posted September 1, 2014 Report Share Posted September 1, 2014 We need to get on this bandwagon! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EFC-Paul Posted September 1, 2014 Report Share Posted September 1, 2014 Can't see this one happening sadly Immensely talented lad and someone could end up with a bargain if he knuckles down and kicks on Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve_E Posted September 1, 2014 Report Share Posted September 1, 2014 Can't see this one happening sadly Immensely talented lad and someone could end up with a bargain if he knuckles down and kicks on How likely is that though? Matt 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MC11 Posted September 1, 2014 Report Share Posted September 1, 2014 How likely is that though? Very under the right guidance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msloan78 Posted September 1, 2014 Report Share Posted September 1, 2014 Off to 'ull! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted September 2, 2014 Report Share Posted September 2, 2014 His move to Hull did, indeed, go through. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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