MC11 Posted July 11, 2014 Report Share Posted July 11, 2014 I'm starting to think we should look elsewhere. Surely if we have £20m on the table we can get at least one top end or two decent. markjazzbassist 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted July 11, 2014 Report Share Posted July 11, 2014 Can't wait for this story to be over, whichever way it goes. Amen. nutmegwolf203 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lowensda Posted July 11, 2014 Report Share Posted July 11, 2014 Always had that concern. Don't like our plans hinging on a lad with a swollen ego. I think he's better than people make out, however at present, he's not worth the wait. Get someone more interested in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markjazzbassist Posted July 11, 2014 Report Share Posted July 11, 2014 I'm starting to think we should look elsewhere. Surely if we have £20m on the table we can get at least one top end or two decent. agreed, i think we should get a quick pacy aguero type, there's got to be someone in la liga we can poach. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoof_It_Nev Posted July 11, 2014 Report Share Posted July 11, 2014 Yep, move on. I want someone who wants to play for Everton, rather than waiting for something better to come along. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duncanmckenzieismagic Posted July 11, 2014 Report Share Posted July 11, 2014 http://www1.skysports.com/watch/video/sports/football/9379390/martinez-keen-on-lukaku-return Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duncanmckenzieismagic Posted July 11, 2014 Report Share Posted July 11, 2014 http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/everton-fc-happy-wait-romelu-7412122 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cornish Steve Posted July 12, 2014 Report Share Posted July 12, 2014 For what it's worth, I'm beginning to think now that we will sign him for 20m. I also suspect we'll acquire some lesser known (and therefore cheaper) strikers who turn out to be very good. Time, of course, will tell. chicagoblue 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYBlue Posted July 13, 2014 Report Share Posted July 13, 2014 The Shite have been linked with Lukaku - http://www.caughtoffside.com/2014/07/12/exclusive-liverpool-in-talks-to-complete-26m-deal-to-sign-chelsea-forward/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duncanmckenzieismagic Posted July 13, 2014 Report Share Posted July 13, 2014 http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/chelsea-striker-romelu-lukaku-could-3848391 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuie Hayllor Posted July 13, 2014 Report Share Posted July 13, 2014 it's safe to say the papers have no clue what he's doing and caughtoffside are a joke of a website. The shite are cash rich at the moment and will linked with everyone for the next couple of week. If the papers link him to enough clubs they have a chance of getting it right Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duncanmckenzieismagic Posted July 13, 2014 Report Share Posted July 13, 2014 http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/sport-opinion/carsley-blues-need-strike-right-7414023 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duncanmckenzieismagic Posted July 14, 2014 Report Share Posted July 14, 2014 @Oddschanger: Everton have today been cut to 8/13 to sign Romelu Lukaku this summer. HERE -> http://t.co/BjpPj5vYxd #EFC http://t.co/ayV3uCQkn3 Matt and rubecula 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EFC-Paul Posted July 14, 2014 Report Share Posted July 14, 2014 A few rumours floating around a deal for £22m has been agreed today Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MC11 Posted July 14, 2014 Report Share Posted July 14, 2014 Rumours..... It's just pure speculation based on probability. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted July 14, 2014 Author Report Share Posted July 14, 2014 A few rumours floating around a deal for £22m has been agreed today I'd heard he'd sign Tuesday and that a fee had been agreed in May, it was just down to him deciding if he wanted to sign. Can't see the first bit about him signing tomorrow being true myself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevO Posted July 14, 2014 Report Share Posted July 14, 2014 The bookies don't change their odds that much without something happening. Not saying it's done, but something's changed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted July 14, 2014 Report Share Posted July 14, 2014 The bookies don't change their odds that much without something happening. Not saying it's done, but something's changed. bookies change their odds all the time, to sucker people into placing more bets. I never trust odds Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EFC-Paul Posted July 14, 2014 Report Share Posted July 14, 2014 Rumours..... It's just pure speculation based on probability. Same thing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted July 14, 2014 Report Share Posted July 14, 2014 Honestly... Not arsed. If be thought anything of us and showed his appetite to develop then great. Thinks he he's more than he is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted July 15, 2014 Report Share Posted July 15, 2014 Honestly... Not arsed. If be thought anything of us and showed his appetite to develop then great. Thinks he he's more than he is. hes frequently said he wants to play CL so he can be one of the best, how is that not an appetite to develop? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oztoffee Posted July 15, 2014 Report Share Posted July 15, 2014 This thread has really polarised the fans. The only thing I can add is this, " who was the last Everton player to score 15 in a season, and when?" This is a real question too by the way, 'cos I've really no idea. Probably Latchford in the 18th century :I surrender: Gives some idea of how important he'd be I guess. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted July 15, 2014 Author Report Share Posted July 15, 2014 This thread has really polarised the fans. The only thing I can add is this, " who was the last Everton player to score 15 in a season, and when?" This is a real question too by the way, 'cos I've really no idea. Probably Latchford in the 18th century :I surrender: Gives some idea of how important he'd be I guess. Yakubu? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted July 15, 2014 Report Share Posted July 15, 2014 hes frequently said he wants to play CL so he can be one of the best, how is that not an appetite to develop? Ambition or delusions of granduer? I would say the latter. Point being, he was making statements about needing to play in champions league "whilst we had a top 4 finish in our hands", in the two games where we blew it against Palace and Southampton he was a passenger... So he thinks he's good enough to play in the champions league but didn't really do much to help us when we had it in our hands... He wasn't the only one to play poorly in those games, but he was the only one talking about needing to be at a club that plays in the champs league. Annoying. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gethinO Posted July 15, 2014 Report Share Posted July 15, 2014 Yakubu? Yeah, Yak scored 20 in his first season here. He knew where the goal was, I'll give him that. He then got injured and drifted away slightly, kind of what happens with most our strikers - Radzinski, Beattie, Johnson, Bent, Jelavic, Beckford to name a few. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted July 15, 2014 Report Share Posted July 15, 2014 This thread has really polarised the fans. The only thing I can add is this, " who was the last Everton player to score 15 in a season, and when?" This is a real question too by the way, 'cos I've really no idea. Probably Latchford in the 18th century :I surrender: Gives some idea of how important he'd be I guess. The average top goals scored by a striker is around 12, fellaini got 11 last season as an attacking midfielder who played some games deeper. Basically "Is 15 goals such a big deal when he has been the main striker in a team that performed so well and had a vastly improved possession stats?" For me it was a good tally, and one that met expectaions, rather than surpassed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted July 15, 2014 Report Share Posted July 15, 2014 Ambition or delusions of granduer? I would say the latter. Point being, he was making statements about needing to play in champions league "whilst we had a top 4 finish in our hands", in the two games where we blew it against Palace and Southampton he was a passenger... So he thinks he's good enough to play in the champions league but didn't really do much to help us when we had it in our hands... He wasn't the only one to play poorly in those games, but he was the only one talking about needing to be at a club that plays in the champs league. Annoying. So then its pointless to mention. Martinez has also mentioned being in the Champions League, but got his tactics wrong a few times, should we talk about him as all talk rather than ambition? I would definitely say the former, considering his progress so far. I know its been touted before, but : Sorry, cant find a smaller one. He thinks hes all that because, well stats show he is. You cant be average to already ahead of the likes of these guys. He has things to improve on but those figures speak for themselves. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted July 15, 2014 Author Report Share Posted July 15, 2014 The average top goals scored by a striker is around 12, fellaini got 11 last season as an attacking midfielder who played some games deeper. Basically "Is 15 goals such a big deal when he has been the main striker in a team that performed so well and had a vastly improved possession stats?" For me it was a good tally, and one that met expectaions, rather than surpassed. He missed a whole month of the season through injury, and wasn't even playing for us til September. If he'd not missed that amount of games I feel sure he'd have surpassed 20 league goals for us. Matt 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted July 15, 2014 Report Share Posted July 15, 2014 So then its pointless to mention. Martinez has also mentioned being in the Champions League, but got his tactics wrong a few times, should we talk about him as all talk rather than ambition? I would definitely say the former, considering his progress so far. I know its been touted before, but : Sorry, cant find a smaller one. He thinks hes all that because, well stats show he is. You cant be average to already ahead of the likes of these guys. He has things to improve on but those figures speak for themselves. As I have stated before, being physically mature enough at 16 meant Lukaku had played more games than all the previous players - by the time he was 18 he had made 73 appearances for Anderlecht - more than any of those players at the same age plus he was featuring for longer in the games and starting - he was playing fore them whilst in school!!! .... Messi made his debut at 17 years and 114 days - he made 7 appearances that season. 17 appearances the next season... Owen didn't feature for a full season till he was 18. This is all with discounting the fact that these players were playing in far tougher leagues. Its very well stating the number of goals scored "by an age" - a physical specimen at 16 playing in a lower quality league for a superior team is one convenient way of trying to compare him to Messi, Owen and Rooney... Regarding Martinez I don't see him stating that next season he wants to be at another club playing in the champions league, he has stated he will take Everton to the champions league. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted July 15, 2014 Report Share Posted July 15, 2014 He missed a whole month of the season through injury, and wasn't even playing for us til September. If he'd not missed that amount of games I feel sure he'd have surpassed 20 league goals for us. That maybe so - in fact yes I would say he probably would score 20 in a full season, he's got a 1 in 2 ratio and that is more than respectable. I would also say that the whole "when was the last time someone scored x amount of goals" stat is up to debate. I believe that many a decent striker would have flourished for us last season compared to other seasons, under Moyes we never played to suit the goal scoring striker, last season our play definately did. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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