Matt Posted June 17, 2014 Report Share Posted June 17, 2014 The way Lukaku is playing today against Algeria, I think his price will drop considerably. think thats unfair, Belgium gave him nothing to work with at all.... ... long may it continue! We might get him at a cut price Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
verreauxi Posted June 17, 2014 Report Share Posted June 17, 2014 think thats unfair, Belgium gave him nothing to work with at all.... ... long may it continue! We might get him at a cut price Okay, true enough, the whole team is playing poorly, Lukaku included. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueBlood81 Posted June 17, 2014 Report Share Posted June 17, 2014 http://www.express.co.uk/sport/football/483033/Chelsea-slap-32m-price-tag-on-Romelu-Lukaku-as-Juventus-close-in Would like to get him back but not at that price £32mill........Fuck off Jose! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted June 17, 2014 Report Share Posted June 17, 2014 Wish we could have bought origi on when lukaku had one of those games. For me that is why lukaku is not worth the money. The difference between his good game and poor game is too great. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted June 17, 2014 Report Share Posted June 17, 2014 Wish we could have bought origi on when lukaku had one of those games. For me that is why lukaku is not worth the money. The difference between his good game and poor game is too great. I wonder if Barkley got no service all game long and wasnt able to shine, you would be just as harsh in your criticism nutmegwolf203 and Mirallas 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted June 17, 2014 Author Report Share Posted June 17, 2014 I think Lukaku did well not to throw a tantrum with the lack of service. I'd have been blowing a gasket. Mirallas 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted June 17, 2014 Report Share Posted June 17, 2014 I think Lukaku did well not to throw a tantrum with the lack of service. I'd have been blowing a gasket. oh good, its not just me... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted June 17, 2014 Report Share Posted June 17, 2014 I think strachan nailed the point, Origi made things happen. Showed appetite, I've seen Rom do what he did today on several occassions for Everton. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted June 17, 2014 Report Share Posted June 17, 2014 I think strachan nailed the point, Origi made things happen. Showed appetite, I've seen Rom do what he did today on several occassions for Everton. so far as I remember, he won a header which he ran on to and keeper did well, and did made a good run for the goal. Otherwise, nothing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thoward18 Posted June 17, 2014 Report Share Posted June 17, 2014 It was one game. Cristiano Ronaldo looked like shit in one game. It amazes me how small of a sample size some of you guys are willing to base things off of. Matt and Sibdane 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sibdane Posted June 17, 2014 Report Share Posted June 17, 2014 I think strachan nailed the point, Origi made things happen. Showed appetite, I've seen Rom do what he did today on several occassions for Everton. I would argue that Fellaini and Mertens made things happen. As others have said above: no service. Matt 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted June 17, 2014 Report Share Posted June 17, 2014 I would argue that Fellaini and Mertens made things happen. As others have said above: no service. Mertens in particular. Felli played the way we know he can. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted June 17, 2014 Report Share Posted June 17, 2014 It was one game. Cristiano Ronaldo looked like shit in one game. It amazes me how small of a sample size some of you guys are willing to base things off of. His touch was shite yet again. Another game where when things aren't happening he goes missing. I've seen this a good few times before. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted June 17, 2014 Report Share Posted June 17, 2014 His touch was shite yet again. Another game where when things aren't happening he goes missing. I've seen this a good few times before. Ronaldo was absent against Germany too. No point arguing with you though, you've made your mind up MC11 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted June 17, 2014 Report Share Posted June 17, 2014 Ronaldo was absent against Germany too. No point arguing with you though, you've made your mind up It's all very well looking a good player when things are going your way, when the team play nice easy through balls and you aren't needing to show other fundamental attributes. This has been my beef with lukaku since late last year. This has nothing to do with ronaldo, who is effectively a one man team. Lukakus contribution barring goals is not good enough. A modern day Tony cottee is not what we need, at £20m plus I'll pass. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted June 17, 2014 Report Share Posted June 17, 2014 I give up. For someone with so much footballing knowledge, your stubbornness is incredible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted June 17, 2014 Report Share Posted June 17, 2014 I give up. For someone with so much footballing knowledge, your stubbornness is incredible. What? It's as clear as day, closely marked he can't operate, yeah they tightly marked him and he can't deal with it. You want us to spend top dollar on a forward with limitations on parts of his game that will allow other teams to nullify him? He scored 15 goals for us, I would expect any half decent forward to have done that for us last season. I really do not see the massive attraction with him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted June 17, 2014 Report Share Posted June 17, 2014 What? It's as clear as day, closely marked he can't operate, yeah they tightly marked him and he can't deal with it. You want us to spend top dollar on a forward with limitations on parts of his game that will allow other teams to nullify him? He scored 15 goals for us, I would expect any half decent forward to have done that for us last season. I really do not see the massive attraction with him. Sorry, didnt mean to sound disrespectful. Got too much time for you to mean to offend (despite our near constant disagreements! ) My point is you play to players strengths and Belgium, as with Everton after he came back from injury, didnt do that. I wont bring his age up again, nor his goalscoring record, because Im not sure that under debate. Today, Lukaku was given no service and was clearly suffering from his knock from the friendly game. I dont think thats fair to judge him on. He did show his poor touch again today once or twice, though the passes were launched at him. That will improve, though never be his strongest attribute. 20m for me is still about right and we would make a profit on him. He will end up playing for one of the best teams in the world in 5 years time, Ive no doubt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted June 17, 2014 Report Share Posted June 17, 2014 Bony for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted June 17, 2014 Report Share Posted June 17, 2014 Bony for me. I know But Ive similar view on him; not sure what the fuss is about, hes done ok for 1 season much like Benteke did well in his first season then.... Plus, who provides the goals when he buggers off for ACOF? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve_E Posted June 18, 2014 Report Share Posted June 18, 2014 Sorry, didnt mean to sound disrespectful. Got too much time for you to mean to offend (despite our near constant disagreements! ) My point is you play to players strengths and Belgium, as with Everton after he came back from injury, didnt do that. I wont bring his age up again, nor his goalscoring record, because Im not sure that under debate. Today, Lukaku was given no service and was clearly suffering from his knock from the friendly game. I dont think thats fair to judge him on. He did show his poor touch again today once or twice, though the passes were launched at him. That will improve, though never be his strongest attribute. 20m for me is still about right and we would make a profit on him. He will end up playing for one of the best teams in the world in 5 years time, Ive no doubt. The thing is though that if you're the more talented team, you're probably not going to be able to play to Lukaku's strengths. I'm sure we would have loved to have Lukaku sit at the halfway line and hoof balls over the top for him to chase all game long, but Algeria's game plan didn't allow for that. I'm sure we would have loved countering with a winger able to break through and put a cross in for Lukaku to run onto, but Algeria sat deep all game long and held 11 men behind the ball. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EFC-Paul Posted June 18, 2014 Report Share Posted June 18, 2014 To be fair to Lukaku the whole side were poor prior to the substitutions not just himself and Algeria who are a better side than people give them credit for did a good job of slowing the game and nullifying most of what Belgium had to offer. He didn't look a 100% match fit to me and should probably have been used in the last 20 minutes rather than from the start. Generally I share similar views to you Haf and I do to a certain extent on Lukaku but Algeria simply had his number as Mexico did with Neymar and Holland did with Costa two men stick tight and job done tactics will nine times out of ten out do individual talent.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter H Posted June 18, 2014 Report Share Posted June 18, 2014 I like Lukaku, I just dont 20mil like him. I kinda 15mil like him tho StevO 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted June 18, 2014 Report Share Posted June 18, 2014 I like Lukaku, I just dont 20mil like him. I kinda 15mil like him tho £15m is about right. Its his lower level performances and games where defenders have his number that concern me. Strikers good games vs bad games should not be determined by the reliability of them "controlling a football and being able to find a team mate" - Lukaku's are. I can handle him heading over, missing the target every now and then, but I just can't accept a footballer without the ability to look after the ball when it needs looking after. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quinn31 Posted June 18, 2014 Report Share Posted June 18, 2014 Bony for me. Swansea want close to 20m for him, don't they? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted June 18, 2014 Report Share Posted June 18, 2014 Swansea want close to 20m for him, don't they? Yeah and for me he is worth it, the ACN would bother me but he is a complete forward. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NyarkosLeftToe Posted June 18, 2014 Report Share Posted June 18, 2014 Yeah and for me he is worth it, the ACN would bother me but he is a complete forward. Have you watched Swansea all season? From what I have seen from Bony (which isn't alot i'll admit) he is very much a similar player to Lukaku. If we get him then I hope he is as good as you say, just wondering how you think he is worth it yet a player who is 5 years younger still developing isn't? Sibdane, Quinn31 and Matt 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted June 18, 2014 Report Share Posted June 18, 2014 Yeah and for me he is worth it, the ACN would bother me but he is a complete forward. for 3/4s of the season Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted June 18, 2014 Report Share Posted June 18, 2014 Have you watched Swansea all season? From what I have seen from Bony (which isn't alot i'll admit) he is very much a similar player to Lukaku. If we get him then I hope he is as good as you say, just wondering how you think he is worth it yet a player who is 5 years younger still developing isn't? He's far better linking up play than Lukaku, better in the air depsite being a few inches shorter. He just does not get knocked off the ball - at all, he uses his strength whereas Lukaku seems off balance. Give Lukau 5 years - give him 10 years - that touch of his is here to stay. Lukaku is quicker, Bony has a better strike on him. In short Bony is ideal for our play. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MC11 Posted June 18, 2014 Report Share Posted June 18, 2014 No to Bony over Lukaku. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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