EFC-Paul Posted June 7, 2014 Report Share Posted June 7, 2014 (edited) As said earlier, it's just an idea for negotiating. That's how it works right? I mean, someone asks for 5k for their car, you don't go in with a 5k offer do you? Play it and see what you can get. The Luiz deal was great for Chelsea, as you say. What if a great deal could be pulled off in Evertons favour for Lukaku? It won't happen if you just go in with what they want. Lay down what you want, and see where you end up. In that case, it's not idiotic and it is not a ridiculous assumption. I find it a bit frustrating that one persons opinion can be trashed, yet you finish with the classic IMO!!! The great get out clause...The 3 letters that say 'don't come back at me bitch, you can't do that now I've IMO'd'!!! Ha. Anyway, where I fully agree is that he ain't coming here anyway. I've also said it several times. So we are square with that one! No you don't you negotiate a fee agreed but the loan fee would have no bearing on a fee for purchase how can it such a deal would have to have been put into place already which it obviously hasn't? In short it's like Chelsea turning round and saying ok we've had a deal which is now expired but if you want him we'll let you off with the "rumoured" £5m they just wouldn't have it they would milk us for every penny. As said we've had his services for a period which has ended and worked well for all involved it's a simple as that really, also I wasn't thrashing your post I just found it odd that a few people suggested we should hypothetically have the loan fee taken into account it just clearly wouldn't happen don't get me wrong it would be great if it was possible. IMO is simply just that my opinion nothing more how the fuck You've taken it as you've stated I'll never know it was simply an idea that a few put forward that I thought was never going to happen. I'll leave it at that as it's a pointless debate and not really worth harping on about. Edited June 7, 2014 by EFC-Paul Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted June 8, 2014 Report Share Posted June 8, 2014 (edited) We dont even know what the original loan fee was. Its all been pure speculation like most transfer fees/wages these days.i know mate. The reason I mentioned it is because the transfer fee at the end would be closer to 25m, assuming the 5m loan fee and touted 20m transfer fee are correct and that makes me uncomfortable despite how much I want the lad here Edited June 8, 2014 by Matt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duncanmckenzieismagic Posted June 8, 2014 Report Share Posted June 8, 2014 No you don't you negotiate a fee agreed but the loan fee would have no bearing on a fee for purchase how can it such a deal would have to have been put into place already which it obviously hasn't? In short it's like Chelsea turning round and saying ok we've had a deal which is now expired but if you want him we'll let you off with the "rumoured" £5m they just wouldn't have it they would milk us for every penny. As said we've had his services for a period which has ended and worked well for all involved it's a simple as that really, also I wasn't thrashing your post I just found it odd that a few people suggested we should hypothetically have the loan fee taken into account it just clearly wouldn't happen don't get me wrong it would be great if it was possible. IMO is simply just that my opinion nothing more how the fuck You've taken it as you've stated I'll never know it was simply an idea that a few put forward that I thought was never going to happen. I'll leave it at that as it's a pointless debate and not really worth harping on about. Totally agree, I just dont get why anybody would think that the fee we paid for last seasons loan would have any bearing on any future deal. I mean by that logic could West Brom also get £5M knocked off the asking price because they had him the season before? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newty82 Posted June 8, 2014 Report Share Posted June 8, 2014 I'll leave it at that as it's a pointless debate and not really worth harping on about. Thank fuck for that. What an absolute waffle. Guess that's the beauty of forums. The weather's too nice and too much to do to respond in any other way!!! And he ain't coming anyway!!! Ha. As for you Dunc. Well, it's just you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EFC-Paul Posted June 8, 2014 Report Share Posted June 8, 2014 Good man glad your not a financial advisor btw Newty ;-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shukes Posted June 8, 2014 Report Share Posted June 8, 2014 Because until we are told what we actually have we are assuming we don't have 25m to blow on one player. At least I am. Does anyone have any real info on what we have to spend? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted June 8, 2014 Report Share Posted June 8, 2014 Because until we are told what we actually have we are assuming we don't have 25m to blow on one player. At least I am. Does anyone have any real info on what we have to spend? No. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EFC-Paul Posted June 8, 2014 Report Share Posted June 8, 2014 It's all guess work I've seen a few posts of rough figures from projected revenue increases etc but it all depends on how the club use it and what's left over for transfers In short nope not a clue but it would be nice to have half of what figures have been banded around Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duncanmckenzieismagic Posted June 9, 2014 Report Share Posted June 9, 2014 http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/romelu-lukaku-everton-fc-loan-7240324 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duncanmckenzieismagic Posted June 9, 2014 Report Share Posted June 9, 2014 Just heard on Radio City that Chelsea have accepted Atletico Madrid loan bid for him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lowensda Posted June 9, 2014 Report Share Posted June 9, 2014 Just heard on Radio City that Chelsea have accepted Atletico Madrid loan bid for him People thought that may happen. Shame. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted June 9, 2014 Author Report Share Posted June 9, 2014 People thought that may happen. Shame. Are people forgetting Lukaku has to agree? Matt 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gethinO Posted June 9, 2014 Report Share Posted June 9, 2014 The Daily Mail are reporting that we've agreed a fee of £23 million for Rom! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted June 9, 2014 Author Report Share Posted June 9, 2014 The Daily Mail are reporting that we've agreed a fee of £23 million for Rom! That fee has me breaking out into a sweat! I know people have speculated we'd have £30m to spend before sales but I can't see us having more than £20m. So we've just blown our whole budget on him (if it's true and I'm right about how much we have to spend). Martinez will have to get very creative in the transfer market if he really does want to bring 6 or 7 new players in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted June 9, 2014 Report Share Posted June 9, 2014 The Daily Mail are reporting that we've agreed a fee of £23 million for Rom! Not a chance. Mirallas 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lowensda Posted June 9, 2014 Report Share Posted June 9, 2014 Not a chance. Seems somewhat excessive. Maybe total based on achievements. Not to start. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueBlood81 Posted June 10, 2014 Report Share Posted June 10, 2014 £10-12mil up front and the rest on the drip based on achievements and I'd be happy with it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NyarkosLeftToe Posted June 10, 2014 Report Share Posted June 10, 2014 23 million for him is a good price I'd be happy with that, as Patto says you could get your money back if you sold him in a few years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted June 10, 2014 Author Report Share Posted June 10, 2014 23 million for him is a good price I'd be happy with that, as Patto says you could get your money back if you sold him in a few years. It's not the fee that's got me worried really; it's how we're going to fund other signings if we're spending that much in one go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted June 10, 2014 Author Report Share Posted June 10, 2014 Also, I didn't see this posted elsewhere, if it has been then I apologise! http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/romelu-lukaku-everton-fc-loan-7240324 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NyarkosLeftToe Posted June 10, 2014 Report Share Posted June 10, 2014 It's not the fee that's got me worried really; it's how we're going to fund other signings if we're spending that much in one go. We're not called Everloan for nothing mate Quinn31 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted June 10, 2014 Author Report Share Posted June 10, 2014 We're not called Everloan for nothing mate We need more than that though, and we all know it. This is why I said I don't envy Martinez over this decision, it's something he's going to have to weigh up very carefully. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marcopaulo Posted June 10, 2014 Report Share Posted June 10, 2014 http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/romelu-lukaku-everton-fc-loan-7240324 Also, I didn't see this posted elsewhere, if it has been then I apologise! http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/romelu-lukaku-everton-fc-loan-7240324 are you louis in disguise? Matt, Romey 1878, BlueBlood81 and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted June 10, 2014 Report Share Posted June 10, 2014 are you louis in disguise? was wondering how long it would take Mark to slip up too Steve_E 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted June 10, 2014 Author Report Share Posted June 10, 2014 was wondering how long it would take Mark to slip up too The thing is I even looked through the thread and still managed to miss it! Matt 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marcopaulo Posted June 10, 2014 Report Share Posted June 10, 2014 you're not louis then at least you read other posts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duncanmckenzieismagic Posted June 10, 2014 Report Share Posted June 10, 2014 Any links to the Daily Mail story, I cant seem to find it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeQuince Posted June 10, 2014 Report Share Posted June 10, 2014 Any links to the Daily Mail story, I cant seem to find it? I was looking last night. Pretty sure it doesn't exist. Twitter rumor about a fake article, I'm guessing. Maybe I'm wrong though. Steve_E 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve_E Posted June 10, 2014 Report Share Posted June 10, 2014 I was looking last night. Pretty sure it doesn't exist. Twitter rumor about a fake article, I'm guessing. Maybe I'm wrong though. I follow Oliver Kay, Tony Barrett, Andy Hunter, Greg O'Keeffe and Phil McNulty on Twitter and none of them have tweeted anything about a deal either. Even if there is such a Daily Mail report out there somewhere, it's still not true probably. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue4Ever Posted June 10, 2014 Report Share Posted June 10, 2014 (edited) I no us Everton fans have to be dreamers some times but seriously we have 0 chance of getting lukaku get on with it now. At times he looked no better than anichebe did, obviously he does have class but its just not worth it and he was blatently just playing for a new team when he could be assed last season, imo if we got in the champions league he still wouldnt have signed but thats opinion Edited June 10, 2014 by Blue4Ever Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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