Newty82 Posted October 5, 2014 Report Share Posted October 5, 2014 Regardless how good we were in patches the real thing is we could be in the bottom 3 today. The real thing is where we finish after game 38. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lowensda Posted October 5, 2014 Report Share Posted October 5, 2014 Besic the beast. Good contributions from Jags, Stones, Baines Ok contributions from Hibbert (?), Barry, Osman, Oviedo, Browning Poor from Lukaku, Howard Shite from McGeady Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newty82 Posted October 5, 2014 Report Share Posted October 5, 2014 Question: Some please summarise McGeady's contribution today, in one letter. Response:_ He's a direct player playing in a non direct team. Bit of a mismatch. I like what he could bring, if used correctly. He should be allowed to run at players with the ball played in front of him, not tracking back to find it and then having to stop to play an inside pass. Same for Lukaku really...play to their strengths. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Newty82 Posted October 5, 2014 Popular Post Report Share Posted October 5, 2014 Can we be fair to Hibbert too. We all had misgivings about him. But that's 4 games in a row having not played for 2 years. And he hasn't really done much wrong. Ok, he's not as dynamic as Coleman but he has done no harm. Fair play to him. pete0, MC11, BlueBlood81 and 4 others 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lowensda Posted October 5, 2014 Report Share Posted October 5, 2014 He's not that direct though. He turns back every time. Unless he has space, he won't run into it and even when there is, he manages to lose the ball. I've seen nothing from the 8+ games he's played. 1 goal after an anonymous performance, isn't justifying his selection. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lowensda Posted October 5, 2014 Report Share Posted October 5, 2014 I thought he did alright. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newty82 Posted October 5, 2014 Report Share Posted October 5, 2014 He's not that direct though. He turns back every time. Unless he has space, he won't run into it and even when there is, he manages to lose the ball. I've seen nothing from the 8+ games he's played. 1 goal after an anonymous performance, isn't justifying his selection. No one else to put in though is there?! The problem with a pacey player is when they do go full on...no one can keep up! So there are no options other than to mess about with it. He hasn't been brilliant, no where near. I just like what his sort can bring to a team if used properly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markjazzbassist Posted October 5, 2014 Report Share Posted October 5, 2014 Question: Some please summarise McGeady's contribution today, in one letter. Response:_ haha yeah, he gives the ball away 90% of his passes. he'll make a great run and burst and then pass to the opposition. honestly, osman out there looked decent, had some trickery and a couple shots, granted the other team was tired, but he might be an option to bench mcgeady and get his head right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted October 5, 2014 Report Share Posted October 5, 2014 Question: Some please summarise McGeady's contribution today, in one letter. Response:_ Imagine the responses on here if he had been expensive... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MC11 Posted October 5, 2014 Report Share Posted October 5, 2014 McGeady just won't cut it here. Another one who Haf was so sure of. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newty82 Posted October 5, 2014 Report Share Posted October 5, 2014 McGeady just won't cut it here. Another one who Haf was so sure of. But to be fair...you right off a fair few of our players! Laws of probability mean you are bound to get one right somewhere!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MC11 Posted October 5, 2014 Report Share Posted October 5, 2014 But to be fair...you right off a fair few of our players! Laws of probability mean you are bound to get one right somewhere!!! Who have I been wrong about.... People can argue McCarthy but I still don't rate him as our "lynch pin" Apart from the odd game were I've seen him do well. He's the most overrated player in the squad. The lad who came in today Besic wasn't absolutely brilliant but there was no big hole (McCarthy) missing in there. There's a lot more about Besic as well. Again I say this lightly because I haven't seen anything extraordinary about Besic. But he's no less of a player than McCarthy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newty82 Posted October 5, 2014 Report Share Posted October 5, 2014 haha yeah, he gives the ball away 90% of his passes. he'll make a great run and burst and then pass to the opposition. honestly, osman out there looked decent, had some trickery and a couple shots, granted the other team was tired, but he might be an option to bench mcgeady and get his head right. 81% pass success rate. The team had 84%. So he did ok. Lukaku was 71%. Just saying. Haha...Turning into a bash now!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted October 5, 2014 Report Share Posted October 5, 2014 Can we be fair to Hibbert too. We all had misgivings about him. But that's 4 games in a row having not played for 2 years. And he hasn't really done much wrong. Ok, he's not as dynamic as Coleman but he has done no harm. Fair play to him. This is true, but we're having to waste a sub every game with him which is a bit annoying! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted October 5, 2014 Report Share Posted October 5, 2014 This is true, but we're having to waste a sub every game with him which is a bit annoying!True, but consider he hadn't played in 2 years regularly he's done well Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted October 5, 2014 Report Share Posted October 5, 2014 True, but consider he hadn't played in 2 years regularly he's done well Which is why I said Newty was right about that part. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnh Posted October 5, 2014 Report Share Posted October 5, 2014 Its not often you get a penalty at Old Trafford, when you do, you must score it. Romey 1878 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MC11 Posted October 5, 2014 Report Share Posted October 5, 2014 Hibbert has done really well considering. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sibdane Posted October 5, 2014 Report Share Posted October 5, 2014 Hibbert has done really well considering.Hibbert doing well means he didn't make any damning mistakes, but he's not really adding anything either. We need Coleman and Barkley back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keith B Posted October 5, 2014 Report Share Posted October 5, 2014 Don't even know what to say...really disappointed in the result. Somehow it feels like we deserved more. Injuries are taking their toll. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MC11 Posted October 5, 2014 Report Share Posted October 5, 2014 Hibbert doing well means he didn't make any damning mistakes, but he's not really adding anything either.We need Coleman and Barkley back. Hibbert has never been known for mistakes. He's always been solid. It was his lack of ability once over the half way line. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markjazzbassist Posted October 5, 2014 Report Share Posted October 5, 2014 81% pass success rate. The team had 84%. So he did ok. Lukaku was 71%. Just saying. Haha...Turning into a bash now!!! wow, surprised his was that high. not surprised with lukaku to be honest. not going to bash him, i've stated in his thread my defense of him, also he's 21. thanks for the info though, very interesting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newty82 Posted October 5, 2014 Report Share Posted October 5, 2014 wow, surprised his was that high. not surprised with lukaku to be honest. not going to bash him, i've stated in his thread my defense of him, also he's 21. thanks for the info though, very interesting. I think it just shows that sometimes we see what we want to see. That's not aimed as a slant against you, but all of us really Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
London Blue Posted October 5, 2014 Report Share Posted October 5, 2014 Second Half display is the level we should be playing at. Cant really blame anyone for the goals, first was due to Jags clearance falling to UTD, and second was due to a Dia Maria miss hit shot falling to Falco. Think if we can get through the international break we can push on and go on a run. Matt 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markjazzbassist Posted October 5, 2014 Report Share Posted October 5, 2014 I think it just shows that sometimes we see what we want to see. That's not aimed as a slant against you, but all of us really Half that and the other half is stats don't tell a whole story. Back passes side passes , the old cb to wing to cb to Barry to cb to wing to barry helps pad the stats. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nottsblue Posted October 5, 2014 Report Share Posted October 5, 2014 I thought Hibbert was our most dangerous player in the 1st half I jumped out my seat when he surged into the box for the penalty - our only attempt on target in the half. We deserved a point from this game and it's maddening that we didn't get it. Stones is becoming more important each game I really hope the injury's not serious. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seve Posted October 5, 2014 Report Share Posted October 5, 2014 it does not matter who plays whos over rated who cost to much if the man between the sticks constantly gives goals away the whole thing is pointless Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted October 5, 2014 Report Share Posted October 5, 2014 McGeady just won't cut it here. Another one who Haf was so sure of. I said he will prove to be a good signing, is the fact that he's a new hate figure make that wrong?. Do you need my posts to be all "ah yeah mirallas and Barkley are the team, without them we have nothing. I'd play mirallas instead of McCarthy in midfield cos McCarthy is crap" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted October 5, 2014 Report Share Posted October 5, 2014 wow, surprised his was that high. not surprised with lukaku to be honest. not going to bash him, i've stated in his thread my defense of him, also he's 21. thanks for the info though, very interesting. Is Lukaku 21? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MC11 Posted October 5, 2014 Report Share Posted October 5, 2014 (edited) I said he will prove to be a good signing, is the fact that he's a new hate figure make that wrong?. Do you need my posts to be all "ah yeah mirallas and Barkley are the team, without them we have nothing. I'd play mirallas instead of McCarthy in midfield cos McCarthy is crap"I'm just saying you don't appreciate the real quality players, instead you seem to like players who really aren't all that. In terms of McGeady I agree he's talented but he's never going to be a good signing. Against poor opposition he can do the odd good thing. Key word being odd. Against quality opposition he's useless, I'd even go as far as saying against average sides he's a floater. I will always bring McCarthy into this as he's had far too much praise for his "water carrying" ability. I just don't rate him as a valuable member. He's been absolutely terrible this season. Besic came in and covered that area just as well. He's not irreplaceable, players like Barkley and Mirallas are. Edited October 5, 2014 by MiguelCotto Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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