Cornish Steve Posted November 26, 2015 Report Share Posted November 26, 2015 (edited) Can you feel it, too? More and more people are beginning to realize just how strong is the young core of our team: a really talented group of players who could feasibly stay together for several years, with another wave coming along behind them. I just read the report about Conor Grant, and it mentions Felipe Mattioni, whom I must have forgotten. Yet another talented youngster to add to the current crop. Tom Cleverley just stated that nothing can stop Everton securing a spot this season in Europe. Players are beginning to gel and enter a good run of form. Of course, it only takes one disappointing loss to bring us back to earth with a bump, but I really do think that, as we dream about the potential of this team, the excitement will continue to build. It will be interesting to read whether those attending matches at Goodison sense the same thing among the crowds there. (Sorry. Had to edit because I kant spill.) Edited November 26, 2015 by Cornish Steve Chach 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnh Posted November 26, 2015 Report Share Posted November 26, 2015 When I saw the title of this thread in 'Recent Topics' my first thought was to ask for the address! However, I do agree with your views. I think it is, potentially, the best Everton team in a very long time. If we can just keep them together then we will go places. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted November 26, 2015 Report Share Posted November 26, 2015 (edited) Mattioni isn't a youngster, he's 27/28. He signed for us a few weeks ago on a free transfer. Apart from that, I agree. Hopefully we can keep them together but there's not a lot of patience in football, so if we don't get CL football at least 1 will go this summer. Edited November 26, 2015 by Romey 1878 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cornish Steve Posted November 26, 2015 Author Report Share Posted November 26, 2015 Mattioni isn't a youngster, he's 27/28. He signed for us a few weeks ago on a free transfer. Apart from that, I agree. Hopefully we can keep them together but there's not a lot of patience in football, so if we don't get CL football at least 1 will go this summer. Ah. I missed that completely about Mattioni. Still, he sounds like another solid addition, albeit not a youngster. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted November 26, 2015 Report Share Posted November 26, 2015 My excitement is that something is gonna get done at corporate level. How many storms can they weather. On the playing front I have been a big Martinez fan for a while. Some things he does pisses me off but I believe he has a plan, a continuous plan that will see us not carry penknives to gun fights but hand grenades. Chach 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markjazzbassist Posted November 26, 2015 Report Share Posted November 26, 2015 Yes Martinez had a plan and both him and the scouting department are damn near best in England. some real bright young prospects. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Btay Posted November 26, 2015 Report Share Posted November 26, 2015 Although I agree our core is fantastic, I am excited about this team, we need better results against the teams around us. Man city, Man, U and Arsenal swept us off the park and we've drawn with every team around us bar Southhampton. Once start getting good results against a few more teams in the top half, then we will be a top 4 team. It's not impossible though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Makis Posted November 26, 2015 Report Share Posted November 26, 2015 Team needs to find consistency, I think we will drop points in an easy game and people will again moan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MC11 Posted November 26, 2015 Report Share Posted November 26, 2015 I had a sense of excitement in Martinez first season when we were turning over the top sides and sitting in the top 4 at Christmas - that was excitement. This season is all too meh! I have absolutely no idea why anyone else would? There's a sense of "hope" for the future but the immediate feeling can only be described as "inconsistant" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markjazzbassist Posted November 27, 2015 Report Share Posted November 27, 2015 I had a sense of excitement in Martinez first season when we were turning over the top sides and sitting in the top 4 at Christmas - that was excitement. This season is all too meh! I have absolutely no idea why anyone else would? There's a sense of "hope" for the future but the immediate feeling can only be described as "inconsistant" We have a run of games that are completely winnable and would put us top 4. That's the optimism, we went through the the gauntlet unscathed and are ready to attack. Plus were in the quarter final of a cup with another cup still to come. Lot of positive in the horizon. For me it's all the youth and scouting. I'm blown away by Roberto and the scouting department. With moyes we had great scouts but now with actually playing youngsters regularly it's like we are a top destination for young talent. They want to come here. Transfers have been solid too. Gerry romelu Barry McCarthy Kone Mori etc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest rusty747 Posted November 27, 2015 Report Share Posted November 27, 2015 If we can keep adding some steel, bite and leadership to the skill that is undoubtedly there, then I do think we could be on the cusp of a major leap forward. Confidence is key, and that comes from results. In that regard, the Bournemouth game is an deal yardstick to see how we deal with the favourites tag in an away game that actually isn't as easy as some would have you believe. In short, the Bournemouth game is important. We need a professional performance and three points. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue 250 Posted November 27, 2015 Report Share Posted November 27, 2015 Liecester City sit proudly on top of the league, whilst Chelsea flounder.Man City drop points to Villa, a team we made look almost non-league. We've got a very good squad, if we don't play too much 'tip tap' crap across the middle of the pitch we have a good chance of doing something this season form and injuries permiting, so yes I'm pretty excited about this season at the moment. In Stones and Lukaku we have two of the best young talents in world football, can we keep them, probably not ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chalkpie Posted November 28, 2015 Report Share Posted November 28, 2015 Agreed, yet my concern is Howard. He has cost us points and matches both this year and last year, and unless we get somebody who is a f***ing solid rock back there, there will be balls flying into the back of our net. In fairness, he has had some decent games very recently, but he has also had some shite matches. He really worries me and I cringe every time there is either a cross or corner. So while we see some big progress in most other areas, we are still VERY vulnerable at the back. But yes, the potential of this team is huge. Night and day from last season - I think Geri has infused some life and energy into this team, and the other lads (Mirallas notwithstanding) are all generlly playing well. There is a directness and attacking quality that was missing from last year - I think Martinez wised up and put his pride and ego aside in many ways. COYB's!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chalkpie Posted November 28, 2015 Report Share Posted November 28, 2015 In Stones and Lukaku we have two of the best young talents in world football, can we keep them, probably not ! Well that's the shitty part. How does this team ever expect to transform itself into one of the top 4 or 5 of the PL if we keep losing our best players? Is Everton always going to be regarded as a decent mid-table club? If we make it into the CL for a few seasons, would that heighten the appeal of this club to want to make our best lads stay, or are we just a "temporary" stepping stone? Its a bit frustrating when you look at the outlook of guys like Stones, Geru, Rom, Barkley, etc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markjazzbassist Posted November 28, 2015 Report Share Posted November 28, 2015 Even though we draw if we can win the cup match I'll still be excited. If not I'm afraid I'll revert back to my preaseason pragmatism of 11th place. Come on Roberto prove me wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duncanmckenzieismagic Posted November 28, 2015 Report Share Posted November 28, 2015 Days like today should bring people crashing back down to reality. Bournemouth are a poor side and we made them look like Barcelona in the second half. It was really poor game management. We were in total control and should have gone on to get 4 or 5 but instead we took our foot off the gas and invited them back into the game If this had happened under Moyes there would have been a major melt down in here Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted November 28, 2015 Report Share Posted November 28, 2015 Days like today should bring people crashing back down to reality. Bournemouth are a poor side and we made them look like Barcelona in the second half. It was really poor game management. We were in total control and should have gone on to get 4 or 5 but instead we took our foot off the gas and invited them back into the game If this had happened under Moyes there would have been a major melt down in here You mean like going 1-0 up against a shit Liverpool team in the FA Cup semi final and bottling it? I think we did melt down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duncanmckenzieismagic Posted November 28, 2015 Report Share Posted November 28, 2015 (edited) You mean like going 1-0 up against a shit Liverpool team in the FA Cup semi final and bottling it? I think we did melt down. This was a completely different scenario, yes we choked against The Shite but this was all about game management. We did turn up for this game and we had it won , which makes it even more galling I also think there is a massive difference between being out played by Liverpool and being out played by Bournemouth but yes it was every bit as annoying as that and IMO not enough of the spotlight is on Martinez Edited November 28, 2015 by duncanmckenzieismagic Deacs 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted November 29, 2015 Report Share Posted November 29, 2015 This was a completely different scenario, yes we choked against The Shite but this was all about game management. We did turn up for this game and we had it won , which makes it even more galling I also think there is a massive difference between being out played by Liverpool and being out played by Bournemouth but yes it was every bit as annoying as that and IMO not enough of the spotlight is on Martinez So... we need to be 2-0 up against a 'so called' top side and draw? I'm not excusing Martinez today as I support Everton - not the manager, chairman,CEO, so yes he can fuck off for todays let down. As for moyes... Would you want him back??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted November 29, 2015 Report Share Posted November 29, 2015 Days like today should bring people crashing back down to reality. Bournemouth are a poor side and we made them look like Barcelona in the second half. It was really poor game management. We were in total control and should have gone on to get 4 or 5 but instead we took our foot off the gas and invited them back into the game If this had happened under Moyes there would have been a major melt down in here It's not even the first time we've done it this season, which shows the players and manager aren't learning. We did it against Sunderland and had to beat them twice. We even took our foot off the pedal against Villa, it's just that they're so shite they couldn't do a thing. We played the second half yesterday like we thought we'd already won it. It's not acceptable and it's why we're so inconsistent this season. Fuck, we still haven't managed to win 2 league games in a row this season! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest rusty747 Posted November 29, 2015 Report Share Posted November 29, 2015 If we can keep adding some steel, bite and leadership to the skill that is undoubtedly there, then I do think we could be on the cusp of a major leap forward. Confidence is key, and that comes from results. In that regard, the Bournemouth game is an deal yardstick to see how we deal with the favourites tag in an away game that actually isn't as easy as some would have you believe. In short, the Bournemouth game is important. We need a professional performance and three points. We failed. Carry on like that and we will be lucky to finish in the top half. Given the talent in the squad, that would be criminal. Given the way Martinez manages that talent, it would not be a surprise. Romey 1878 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deacs Posted November 29, 2015 Report Share Posted November 29, 2015 The game against Boro is massive now, we don't have the consistency to finish in the top 6 let alone top 4. We need this cup and I'm very worried we are going to throw it away, by picking a second string team. Martinez needs a kick up the back side, this is the best squad we've had in a long time and he's wasting it. Probably the wrong thread for this post, sorry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markjazzbassist Posted December 13, 2015 Report Share Posted December 13, 2015 All my excitement is gone. Only thing rm can do to win me back is win a trophy. Otherwise I'm done with him. Would rather someone else who can manage properly and use subs and play players in their right positions. Deacs 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted December 13, 2015 Report Share Posted December 13, 2015 All my excitement is gone. Only thing rm can do to win me back is win a trophy. Otherwise I'm done with him. Would rather someone else who can manage properly and use subs and play players in their right positions. Again? I'm glad I'm not your wife. Romey 1878 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MC11 Posted December 13, 2015 Report Share Posted December 13, 2015 Meh! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HKR toffee Posted December 13, 2015 Report Share Posted December 13, 2015 A cup trophy would be great but I don't think we will have a better chance finishing in the top four than this season and at the moment we don't look that doing it I'm affraid Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markjazzbassist Posted December 13, 2015 Report Share Posted December 13, 2015 Again? I'm glad I'm not your wife. I'm also glad you're not my wife I'm not into man parts, more into lady parts Matt 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MC11 Posted December 13, 2015 Report Share Posted December 13, 2015 I'm also glad you're not my wife I'm not into man parts, more into lady parts Lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finn balor Posted December 13, 2015 Report Share Posted December 13, 2015 If we'd have beat Bournemouth, palace and Norwich I'd be walking around with a monumental hard on! Well I say monumental.......... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete0 Posted December 13, 2015 Report Share Posted December 13, 2015 If we'd have beat Bournemouth, palace and Norwich I'd be walking around with a monumental hard on! Well I say monumental..........It's sickening looking at the table and knowing how many points we've thrown away. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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