milesey05 Posted April 3, 2016 Report Share Posted April 3, 2016 That Niasse is worse than Martinez Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter H Posted April 3, 2016 Report Share Posted April 3, 2016 Stones was good today, thats what i take with me this afternoon. Matt 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shukes Posted April 3, 2016 Report Share Posted April 3, 2016 Yep Niasse is a bit of an embarrassing signing isn't he. Fitness is one thing but u fortunately the lad looks like he is a few leagues ahead of where he should be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HonestJohn Posted April 3, 2016 Report Share Posted April 3, 2016 Pish Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sibdane Posted April 3, 2016 Report Share Posted April 3, 2016 Niasse didn't have a chance to settle into the game, but admittedly he looked pretty rough in the 8 mins he played. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finn balor Posted April 3, 2016 Report Share Posted April 3, 2016 Fucking moyes performance that. Totally shit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Btay Posted April 3, 2016 Report Share Posted April 3, 2016 Martinez gonna get pulled apart here but it's Colemans error that cost us today. Not happy with Barkley. Lazy today efc1111 and Matt 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted April 3, 2016 Report Share Posted April 3, 2016 Feel majorly let down with the majority of that second half. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shukes Posted April 3, 2016 Report Share Posted April 3, 2016 Martinez gonna get pulled apart here but it's Colemans error that cost us today. Not happy with Barkley. Lazy today True, but what did Martinez do to get us back in the game? That's where his criticism is justified. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted April 3, 2016 Report Share Posted April 3, 2016 Barkley joining my lazy you can fuck off now list. Niasse needs to lose a fair few pounds. Looked shite in his 4 minutes... ta ra bobby. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elston Gunnn Posted April 3, 2016 Report Share Posted April 3, 2016 The energy that Leicester exhibit regularly just puts our boys to shame. But tbh I guess I'm referring mostly to Barkley and sometimes Lukaku. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted April 3, 2016 Report Share Posted April 3, 2016 Martinez gonna get pulled apart here but it's Colemans error that cost us today. Not happy with Barkley. Lazy today Only today? That's his standard, Btay. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chalkpie Posted April 3, 2016 Report Share Posted April 3, 2016 Phenomenal Spirit and Character!!! Every player: 10/10 Martinez - easily manager of the year....no decade Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chalkpie Posted April 3, 2016 Report Share Posted April 3, 2016 The energy that Leicester exhibit regularly just puts our boys to shame. Bingo. Nail on the head. We are woeful compared to that team, and TBH probably possess more talent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeQuince Posted April 3, 2016 Report Share Posted April 3, 2016 Fucking moyes performance that. Totally shit. Well, honestly, with Moyes we would have at least had a shape. We had players working hard today, but no planning. We always seemed surprised that Player Y was wasn't where Player X expected them to be. Just looks like bad coaching all over the place. We were well-coached under Moyes, but we never changed to a Plan B. Under Martinez, we are poorly coached and full of artistry, but its like we are painting with blindfolds on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elston Gunnn Posted April 3, 2016 Report Share Posted April 3, 2016 .... no planning. We always seemed surprised that Player Y was wasn't where Player X expected them to be. There's something to this point, probably something important. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chalkpie Posted April 3, 2016 Report Share Posted April 3, 2016 Well, honestly, with Moyes we would have at least had a shape. We had players working hard today, but no planning. We always seemed surprised that Player Y was wasn't where Player X expected them to be. Just looks like bad coaching all over the place. We were well-coached under Moyes, but we never changed to a Plan B. Under Martinez, we are poorly coached and full of artistry, but its like we are painting with blindfolds on. Zero synergy. Zero intent. No plan. Flying by the seat of our pants, but in an old broken down Cessna with one broken engine. But we do it with phenomenal character. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newty82 Posted April 3, 2016 Report Share Posted April 3, 2016 Frustrated. Again. And for the first time all of my frustration is felt towards Martinez. The team went 1 down because LVG changed Uniteds play. Our players at that point looked like they had already lost. They looked like they had no belief that they'd get back in the game. And that's Martinez que. Fair enough, Mirrallas comes on. But then to just sit and wait...and wait...and wait until 87 minutes to make your next move is just shambolic. Players aren't just suddenly going to start creating chances when they have struggled for much of the game. Players who have struggled to hold onto the ball, to string 2 passes together etc aren't just suddenly going to turn it on. If their having a bad game, get them off. For the very first time I am 100% pissed off at Martinez. Not because we lost...but because I don't feel he did enough to get us back into the game. I don't know. I'm just angry today anyway to be honest. efc1111 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted April 3, 2016 Report Share Posted April 3, 2016 Frustrated. Again. And for the first time all of my frustration is felt towards Martinez. The team went 1 down because LVG changed Uniteds play. Our players at that point looked like they had already lost. They looked like they had no belief that they'd get back in the game. And that's Martinez que. Fair enough, Mirrallas comes on. But then to just sit and wait...and wait...and wait until 87 minutes to make your next move is just shambolic. Players aren't just suddenly going to start creating chances when they have struggled for much of the game. Players who have struggled to hold onto the ball, to string 2 passes together etc aren't just suddenly going to turn it on. If their having a bad game, get them off. For the very first time I am 100% pissed off at Martinez. Not because we lost...but because I don't feel he did enough to get us back into the game. I don't know. I'm just angry today anyway to be honest. In Martinez' first season did we have a pod person in charge? Because that season he was bold with his changes. They made a difference and were always positive. But since that first season he's turned into a right shithouse. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mogsy Posted April 3, 2016 Report Share Posted April 3, 2016 Well, honestly, with Moyes we would have at least had a shape. We had players working hard today, but no planning. We always seemed surprised that Player Y was wasn't where Player X expected them to be. Just looks like bad coaching all over the place. We were well-coached under Moyes, but we never changed to a Plan B. Under Martinez, we are poorly coached and full of artistry, but its like we are painting with blindfolds on. We would have had a draw with moyes lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newty82 Posted April 3, 2016 Report Share Posted April 3, 2016 Martinez gonna get pulled apart here but it's Colemans error that cost us today. Not happy with Barkley. Lazy today I get your sentiment. And I get that Coleman has fucked up. But Martinez will get it because yet again he has not taken enough action to influence the game. And that's coming from one of his biggest backers. Although, like Shukes, I'm running down to minimal % of confidence. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest rusty747 Posted April 3, 2016 Report Share Posted April 3, 2016 Martinez is on the verge of wasting the most talented Everton squad in 30 years. If our new billionaire owner has the cojones that I think he has then Martinez is on borrowed time - and rightly so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnh Posted April 3, 2016 Report Share Posted April 3, 2016 Rally scrappy goal to concede. Jagielka should have scored when he hit the bar. He was under no pressure, clear header, should have got it on target. Everton kept hitting long balls up to Lukaku who didn't do anything with them. Blind, who is half is size, had him in his pocket. Barkley dribbles about in mid-field without achieving anything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newty82 Posted April 3, 2016 Report Share Posted April 3, 2016 In Martinez' first season did we have a pod person in charge? Because that season he was bold with his changes. They made a difference and were always positive. But since that first season he's turned into a right shithouse. And you touch another nerve there. That really pisses me off. If I'm Martinez, I'm asking myself what have I changed since that first season? And I'm doing my absolute best to get back to it. I'm getting all the senior players in and I'm finding out what made it so impactful. There's nothing wrong with holding your hands up and saying 'I've tweaked it to much here, let's go back a step' but there is a problem with persisting with a flawed plan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeQuince Posted April 3, 2016 Report Share Posted April 3, 2016 There's something to this point, probably something important. It's extremely frustrating that almost every goal we score has to be the result of some miraculous luck or a momentous display of skill. Almost never do we score because we execute something. We've grown increasingly imprecise in our structured play. This is why we can't win at home or when we have all of the ball. We make it easy for the defending team. We're a threat on the counter attack, because we don't give our opposition a chance to get set, and our skilled players make something happen at speed. It's an absolute joke that, with the players we have, we can't boss teams. Our players are highly skilled, more so than most of our opposition. Yet, we see teams of lesser skilled players play a more precise and controlled game. Currently, there are many of those such teams above us in the table. Though the players have to share some blame, there's only so much they can do with skill alone. efc1111 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chalkpie Posted April 3, 2016 Report Share Posted April 3, 2016 And that's coming from one of his biggest backers. Although, like Shukes, I'm running down to minimal % of confidence. We just need MikeO now [insert evil and diabolical laugh here] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete0 Posted April 3, 2016 Report Share Posted April 3, 2016 And you touch another nerve there. That really pisses me off. If I'm Martinez, I'm asking myself what have I changed since that first season? And I'm doing my absolute best to get back to it. I'm getting all the senior players in and I'm finding out what made it so impactful. There's nothing wrong with holding your hands up and saying 'I've tweaked it to much here, let's go back a step' but there is a problem with persisting with a flawed plan. He got rid of the fitness coaches and we've never replaced them by the looks of it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chalkpie Posted April 3, 2016 Report Share Posted April 3, 2016 It's extremely frustrating that almost every goal we score has to be the result of some miraculous luck or a momentous display of skill. Almost never do we score because we execute something. We've grown increasingly imprecise in our structured play. This is why we can't win at home or when we have all of the ball. We make it easy for the defending team. We're a threat on the counter attack, because we don't give our opposition a chance to get set, and our skilled players make something happen at speed. It's an absolute joke that, with the players we have, we can't boss teams. Our players are highly skilled, more so than most of our opposition. Yet, we see teams of lesser skilled players play a more precise and controlled game. Currently, there are many of those such teams above us in the table. Though the players have to share some blame, there's only so much they can do with skill alone. This is so spot on IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mogsy Posted April 3, 2016 Report Share Posted April 3, 2016 Martinez is on the verge of wasting the most talented Everton squad in 30 years. If our new billionaire owner has the cojones that I think he has then Martinez is on borrowed time - and rightly so. Yes and yes and yes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeQuince Posted April 3, 2016 Report Share Posted April 3, 2016 This is so spot on IMO. Listening to Roberto's and LVG's post-match interviews, this couldn't be any clearer. Roberto spoke nothing of the tactics of the game; didn't want to touch it. LVG said we set up and played differently than he expected, which meant he had to switch things up. They win. We lose. Perhaps, with a little more luck, we should have won today. But, we shouldn't need luck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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