Paddock Posted May 4, 2017 Author Report Share Posted May 4, 2017 I take a day out to travel from Cornwall to Heathrow to Miami, and look what happens: Everyone's in agreement. Preposterous. Well, since the discussion about Koeman's ability to motivate the team against top clubs has fizzled, what about his playing favorites? Can anyone justify why an aging backup keeper from the Championship should have been brought in and given the #1 spot? He doesn't play favourites though does he. He has players he prefers but he has no qualms dropping them. Steks, Jags, Mori, Barkley have all been dropped this season because of poir form. Martinez was 100 times worse for that playing Howard and Jagielka when they were dreadful. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted May 4, 2017 Report Share Posted May 4, 2017 Joel was dropped because he'd been poor for weeks. It was justified, even if it was for someone as terrible as Stek. markjazzbassist 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paddock Posted May 4, 2017 Author Report Share Posted May 4, 2017 http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/ronald-koeman-barcelona-everton-holland-12983838 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Makis Posted May 4, 2017 Report Share Posted May 4, 2017 Well, since the discussion about Koeman's ability to motivate the team against top clubs has fizzled, what about his playing favorites? Can anyone justify why an aging backup keeper from the Championship should have been brought in and given the #1 spot? He wanted a cheap keeper he knew. Low risk. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aaron Posted May 4, 2017 Report Share Posted May 4, 2017 He wanted a cheap keeper he knew. Low risk. Also wanted 3 keepers, but couldn't find the third who was willing to be part of a rotation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paddock Posted May 4, 2017 Author Report Share Posted May 4, 2017 I'm praying we get Joe Hart in the summer. He would be a marquee signing, a brilliant keeper and a statement of intent from us. ?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted May 4, 2017 Report Share Posted May 4, 2017 I'm praying we get Joe Hart in the summer. He would be a marquee signing, a brilliant keeper and a statement of intent from us. ?? How's he been doing in Torino? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aaron Posted May 4, 2017 Report Share Posted May 4, 2017 How's he been doing in Torino? going by reports (which given, isn't a lot) they want to keep him. Every paper seems to be linking him to United as De Gea's replacement recently too. that stats are as follows for this season so far: Apps: 32 Clean Sheets: 5 Avg. goals conceded: 1.59 Avg. Saves per game: 2.50 Avg claim success: 94% Avg punches: 38% distribution success :72% Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paddock Posted May 4, 2017 Author Report Share Posted May 4, 2017 How's he been doing in Torino? No idea but I've seen him enough in our league to know I want him. He's a quality keeper. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Posted May 4, 2017 Report Share Posted May 4, 2017 going by reports (which given, isn't a lot) they want to keep him. Every paper seems to be linking him to United as De Gea's replacement recently too. that stats are as follows for this season so far: Apps: 32 Clean Sheets: 5 Avg. goals conceded: 1.59 Avg. Saves per game: 2.50 Avg claim success: 94% Avg punches: 38% distribution success :72% Compare Joel's to those, there won't be much in it, Joel's might even be better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lowensda Posted May 4, 2017 Report Share Posted May 4, 2017 (edited) Compare Joel's to those, there won't be much in it, Joel's might even be better. There you go: Joe / Joel Apps: 32 / 18 Clean Sheets: 5 / 9 Avg. goals conceded: 1.59 / 0.94 Avg. Saves per game: 2.50 / 2.00 Avg claim success: 94% / 99% Avg punches: 38% / 39% distribution success : 72% / 55% Those stats by the way, put Joel in 3rd (highest rank GK's) http://www.squawka.com/football-player-rankings#performance-score#goalkeeper-stats#english-premier-league|season-2016/2017#all-teams#goalkeeper#17#42#0#0#90#13/08/2016#30/04/2017#season#4#all-matches#total Edited May 4, 2017 by Lowensda Matt 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aidan Posted May 4, 2017 Report Share Posted May 4, 2017 I'd like Kasper Schmeichel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sibdane Posted May 4, 2017 Report Share Posted May 4, 2017 http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/ronald-koeman-barcelona-everton-holland-12983838 I love his honesty. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Posted May 4, 2017 Report Share Posted May 4, 2017 After those stats, it shows that Joel is not appreciated because of the odd mistake, he makes less saves because the defence play a lot better when he's there. 50% of his games are clean sheets, don't think any other goalie can compare with that. Unless we can get a top, top keeper I'm happier with Joel rather than Stekkers. Sibdane, MikeO and Cornish Steve 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markjazzbassist Posted May 4, 2017 Report Share Posted May 4, 2017 How's he been doing in Torino? cue the benny hill music https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cag0W_MaMJc I'd like Kasper Schmeichel. just read yesterday he wants out but he wants 100k a week. no thanks on that. would rather someone else for a little cheaper. Lowensda 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lowensda Posted May 4, 2017 Report Share Posted May 4, 2017 (edited) Don't think the first one is that bad, the defender should have been there, 2 men unmarked that close to goal? Nah. Second is pants though. Happens to the best of them... Lloris - http://www.dailystar.co.uk/sport/football/467886/Monaco-Tottenham-Late-Hugo-Lloris-blunder-proves-costly-Spurs Lloris this year - From last week, Buffon(!) - http://theworldgame.sbs.com.au/article/2017/04/29/last-gasp-defensive-error-costs-juventus-atalanta Edited May 4, 2017 by Lowensda Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markjazzbassist Posted May 4, 2017 Report Share Posted May 4, 2017 (edited) Don't think the first one is that bad, the defender should have been there, 2 men unmarked that close to goal? Nah. Second is pants though. what about the 3rd and 4th ones? 2 in the same game. Edited May 4, 2017 by markjazzbassist nyblue23 and Lowensda 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lowensda Posted May 4, 2017 Report Share Posted May 4, 2017 what about the 3rd and 4th ones? 2 in the same game. Mate you hate him. I get it. Just implying that YouTube clips of 1 or 2 errors, doesn't make for a shite player. It can work in the opposite notion, in that crap players can look like world beaters because they once scored a worldie. De Gea's first season in England, he was rediculously bad. Would you take him now? (Similar situation to Hart having a season in a new league and taking time to adjust). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevO Posted May 4, 2017 Report Share Posted May 4, 2017 I saw a video this week of Neymar falling over doing keepy ups. I'd still take him. Lowensda 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lowensda Posted May 4, 2017 Report Share Posted May 4, 2017 I saw a video this week of Neymar falling over doing keepy ups. I'd still take him. That's my point exactly. A couple of isolated events shouldn't be the judgement of a player. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aaron Posted May 4, 2017 Report Share Posted May 4, 2017 I saw a video this week of Neymar falling over doing keepy ups. I'd still take him. Depends if he will be allowed out of prison of a weekend! http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/neymar-ordered-stand-trial-fraud-10354755 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markjazzbassist Posted May 4, 2017 Report Share Posted May 4, 2017 Mate you hate him. I get it. Just implying that YouTube clips of 1 or 2 errors, doesn't make for a shite player. It can work in the opposite notion, in that crap players can look like world beaters because they once scored a worldie. De Gea's first season in England, he was rediculously bad. Would you take him now? (Similar situation to Hart having a season in a new league and taking time to adjust). it's not joe's first season, it's his 11th. terrible comparison. i don't hate him, just think he's massively overrated. some keepers make mistakes, joe makes bloopers. nyblue23 and holystove 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted May 4, 2017 Report Share Posted May 4, 2017 I've not been his biggest fan, but I've got to admit that he's impressed me. His tactics and communications at times have made me feel, on several occasions, feel that my first impressions have been justified. But, slowly and surely, he's winning me over. His demeanour hasn't helped the transition, but then again, my fear of being burned has also contributed to my uncertainty. The "no nonsense" approach was harsh to take, but I'm learning that he really does want to succeed here, especially since I'm (usually) so easy-going and optimistic. But following his interviews, usually pre-match, I've got to hand it to him. This year was a transition, and I've always maintained (despite doubts) that he deserves a chance until January next year. But I had that scepticism about Morishi, Walsh et al. too. Now I believe this summer will be the statement of intent. Regardless of what happens, I've no question Koeman is invested in the project. I just hope the others behind the scenes are too markjazzbassist, Sibdane and Romey 1878 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markjazzbassist Posted May 4, 2017 Report Share Posted May 4, 2017 with those holland and barca links it leads me to wonder, when does his contract end? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted May 4, 2017 Report Share Posted May 4, 2017 with those holland and barca links it leads me to wonder, when does his contract end? He signed a three year contract. markjazzbassist 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palfy Posted May 4, 2017 Report Share Posted May 4, 2017 with those holland and barca links it leads me to wonder, when does his contract end?If Netherlands or Barcelona want him and he's interested then he's gone no matter how long he has left on his contract. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
holystove Posted May 4, 2017 Report Share Posted May 4, 2017 If Netherlands or Barcelona want him and he's interested then he's gone no matter how long he has left on his contract. pretty sure Holland asked him a month ago and he turned them down. he says because of his contract with Everton, but more likely because Holland is a complete mess. markjazzbassist 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aidan Posted May 4, 2017 Report Share Posted May 4, 2017 cue the benny hill music https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cag0W_MaMJc https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xtfZ-CNNlx0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tOTC2bDlS_w https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2z7WBBxQDkQ just read yesterday he wants out but he wants 100k a week. no thanks on that. would rather someone else for a little cheaper. Real leader, and IMO the best keeper outside the top 7. Id say pay him 100k and have him as our number 1 for the next 3 or 4 years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markjazzbassist Posted May 4, 2017 Report Share Posted May 4, 2017 pretty sure Holland asked him a month ago and he turned them down. he says because of his contract with Everton, but more likely because Holland is a complete mess. agreed. also their talent is very young or very old (sneijder etc). in 2 years time it could be a better situation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sibdane Posted May 4, 2017 Report Share Posted May 4, 2017 Real leader, and IMO the best keeper outside the top 7. Id say pay him 100k and have him as our number 1 for the next 3 or 4 years. But we don't want the 7th or 8th best keeper in the league do we? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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