swisstiss Posted June 14, 2016 Report Share Posted June 14, 2016 (edited) When I started watching Everton after the war, Southampton weren't on the Radar. The only south coast club in the (then) first division were Portsmouth. Not really aware of Southampton until about the mid-sixties.. Nor was I, I wasn't even born... Not sure what you're trying to get at. Noone is in any doubt about the fact we've been at the bottom for a long time, least of all Saints fans. We're delighted to tell our story of Division 2 obscurity to Europa League!! When I was growing up there was a club called Wimbledon. They don't even exist anymore. Oh, and Forest won the European Cup Edited June 14, 2016 by swisstiss Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted June 14, 2016 Report Share Posted June 14, 2016 Nor was I, I wasn't even born... Not sure what you're trying to get at. Noone is in any doubt about the fact we've been at the bottom for a long time, least of all Saints fans. We're delighted to tell our story of Division 2 obscurity to Europa League!! When I was growing up there was a club called Wimbledon. They don't even exist anymore. Oh, and Forest won the European Cup Think John was born a few days before the first league, so don't worry markjazzbassist 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markjazzbassist Posted June 14, 2016 Report Share Posted June 14, 2016 Think John was born a few days before the first league, so don't worry lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cornish Steve Posted June 14, 2016 Report Share Posted June 14, 2016 Some Saints fans being seriously bitter about this They have every right to be bitter. Koeman publicly stated his disgust for lack of loyalty in today's football and then acts in complete disregard of his own comment. I'm concerned about this, to be honest. By allowing money to trump loyalty, a "money dominates" culture may affect transfer dealings in the future. Will Koeman leave us in the lurch at some point? Will players like Leighton Baines, who stay for loyalty's sake, become a thing of the past? Values matter. Loyalty is important. Contracts are important. What we sow we may later reap. Matt 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markjazzbassist Posted June 14, 2016 Report Share Posted June 14, 2016 (edited) They have every right to be bitter. Koeman publicly stated his disgust for lack of loyalty in today's football and then acts in complete disregard of his own comment. I'm concerned about this, to be honest. By allowing money to trump loyalty, a "money dominates" culture may affect transfer dealings in the future. Will Koeman leave us in the lurch at some point? Will players like Leighton Baines, who stay for loyalty's sake, become a thing of the past? Values matter. Loyalty is important. Contracts are important. What we sow we may later reap. Yes he will leave us, and he should if he does well. His ultimate goal is Barca and everyone knows that. I'm sure Moshiri said i'll give you the ability, get us CL and some trophies and i'm sure Barca will come calling. We both win. Then at that point we'll have the pick of the litter when it comes to managers and he can get the long time appointment. Edited June 14, 2016 by markjazzbassist Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markjazzbassist Posted June 14, 2016 Report Share Posted June 14, 2016 I'd like to see Pelle at Everton. I had initial reservations about his age but, then again, he is Italian. Italians age like wine whereas English players age like milk. Honestly I can still see Lukaku at Everton next season. I think he will have a stinker of a tournament this summer with not one "big club" making a serious enquiry about him. Pelle could come in and do a job from the first whistle of the season and Lukaku may be left to scratch his head and eat some humble pie. Watching a player like Pelle would do Lukaku a world of good, his positioning, movement and hold up play is all superior. love that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cornish Steve Posted June 14, 2016 Report Share Posted June 14, 2016 Yes he will leave us, and he should if he does well. His ultimate goal is Barca and everyone knows that. I'm sure Moshiri said i'll give you the ability, get us CL and some trophies and i'm sure Barca will come calling. We both win. Then at that point we'll have the pick of the litter when it comes to managers and he can get the long time appointment. But that's the point, Mark: Why should we expect him to leave if he does well? We claim to be a great team, but we're acting like we're not. A manager should come to Everton because he wants Everton to be the best team. We shouldn't accept being a stepping stone. Either Everton is great or it's not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted June 14, 2016 Report Share Posted June 14, 2016 did this get posted already? http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/ronald-koeman-thinks-can-take-8189894 markjazzbassist 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markjazzbassist Posted June 14, 2016 Report Share Posted June 14, 2016 But that's the point, Mark: Why should we expect him to leave if he does well? We claim to be a great team, but we're acting like we're not. A manager should come to Everton because he wants Everton to be the best team. We shouldn't accept being a stepping stone. Either Everton is great or it's not. because for however great a team we are he wants to manage the GREATEST team in Barca. fair play. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lowensda Posted June 14, 2016 Report Share Posted June 14, 2016 did this get posted already? http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/ronald-koeman-thinks-can-take-8189894 No. Matt 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted June 14, 2016 Report Share Posted June 14, 2016 No. Ta, I'm getting lost with all the articles coming out at the moment Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markjazzbassist Posted June 14, 2016 Report Share Posted June 14, 2016 Ta, I'm getting lost with all the articles coming out at the moment good article and was basically saying what i said above to steve but a lot better writing and points backing it up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lowensda Posted June 14, 2016 Report Share Posted June 14, 2016 (edited) Who wanted him with a shirt? Ronald Koeman @RonaldKoeman 34m34 minutes ago Happy @Everton manager! Edited June 14, 2016 by Lowensda markjazzbassist 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lowensda Posted June 14, 2016 Report Share Posted June 14, 2016 Ronald Koeman @RonaldKoeman 3h3 hours ago I am very excited to be @Everton manager. I believe in our ability to achieve things with the Club, team and fans in the future. #everton markjazzbassist 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duncanmckenzieismagic Posted June 14, 2016 Report Share Posted June 14, 2016 http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/ronald-koeman-comment-its-strictly-11472906 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duncanmckenzieismagic Posted June 14, 2016 Report Share Posted June 14, 2016 Who wanted him with a shirt? Ronald Koeman @RonaldKoeman 34m34 minutes ago Happy @Everton manager! Wonder where that was taken, definitely not in the U.K. Because the car has foreign plates Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EFC-Paul Posted June 14, 2016 Report Share Posted June 14, 2016 Wonder where that was taken, definitely not in the U.K. Because the car has foreign plates And it's sunny markjazzbassist and Cornish Steve 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted June 14, 2016 Report Share Posted June 14, 2016 Wonder where that was taken, definitely not in the U.K. Because the car has foreign plates i was assuming he was abroad because of the blue skies markjazzbassist 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cornish Steve Posted June 14, 2016 Report Share Posted June 14, 2016 because for however great a team we are he wants to manage the GREATEST team in Barca. fair play. Then we need a manager who believes Everton are greater than Barcelona and wants to prove it!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted June 14, 2016 Report Share Posted June 14, 2016 (edited) Then we need a manager who believes Everton are greater than Barcelona and wants to prove it!!!then we need an Evertonian. Koeman already has Barca in his heart, plus they have an incredible squad, stadium and calibre. He would always consider them the greatest but hopefully he can set us on our way to being even better Edited June 14, 2016 by Matt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted June 14, 2016 Report Share Posted June 14, 2016 http://www.skysports.com/football/news/11671/10309374/ronald-koeman-or-roberto-martinez-mario-melchiot8217s-verdict Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted June 14, 2016 Report Share Posted June 14, 2016 http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/ronald-koeman-comment-its-strictly-11472906 Loyalty is no longer the main currency at Goodison, its cold hard cash. It genuinely saddens me reading that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnh Posted June 14, 2016 Report Share Posted June 14, 2016 Nor was I, I wasn't even born... Not sure what you're trying to get at. Noone is in any doubt about the fact we've been at the bottom for a long time, least of all Saints fans. We're delighted to tell our story of Division 2 obscurity to Europa League!! When I was growing up there was a club called Wimbledon. They don't even exist anymore. Oh, and Forest won the European Cup What I was getting at was some Southampton fans thinking they were 'a bigger club' than Everton. Didn't apply to you personally. I can remember playing against Wimbledon in the late 1960's. They were an amateur team then, playing in the Isthmian League. Incidentally, they do exist. Just got promoted to the Football League Div 1 - AFC Wimbledon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Louis Posted June 14, 2016 Report Share Posted June 14, 2016 markjazzbassist 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete0 Posted June 14, 2016 Report Share Posted June 14, 2016 http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/ronald-koeman-comment-its-strictly-11472906 It genuinely saddens me reading that. Same, hope we don't become like City (unless off the pitch) and Chelsea. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cornish Steve Posted June 14, 2016 Report Share Posted June 14, 2016 http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/ronald-koeman-comment-its-strictly-11472906 It genuinely saddens me reading that. Me too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted June 14, 2016 Report Share Posted June 14, 2016 Well, I still have my doubts but he's here now so he gets my full, if nervous, support. rubecula 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markjazzbassist Posted June 14, 2016 Report Share Posted June 14, 2016 good stuff. noticed how the first thing he said is when he talks to farhad and was told the project, he was interested. sounds like moshiri has a great plan for the club. also like that he mentioned the fans a good bit, i think that's important. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted June 14, 2016 Report Share Posted June 14, 2016 Same, hope we don't become like City (unless off the pitch) and Chelsea.well, we've taken a step in that direction. Think Kenwright has the hardest task now, in trying to keep the clubs integrity intact. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rubecula Posted June 14, 2016 Report Share Posted June 14, 2016 Finally done for better or worse eh? No matter, I am and always will be an Everton supporter. I would support them even if Phil Thompson was made manager. (Runs away to be sick) So, even if I am uncertain about Ronald McDonald Koeman as yet I want him to do as well as humanly possible COYB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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