Mogsy Posted August 15, 2016 Report Share Posted August 15, 2016 Hart is head and shoulders above what we have. Stekelenburg was great yesterday, but one good performance doesn't make him a 1st choice. Yeah Hart has made some errors, but he's also turned in some top class performances for city, especially in Europe, where he's kept city in games with save after save. If there's a chance to sign him we should go all out to get him. Spot on, all keepers make mistakes, because of their position it shows up more as it usually means a goal, lloris was at fault for our goal on Saturday but given the chance I'd have him!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lowensda Posted August 15, 2016 Report Share Posted August 15, 2016 Great player. Happily take him at that age. Â Commercial potential alone is worth considering, because he's worth it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevO Posted August 15, 2016 Report Share Posted August 15, 2016 He would just be a big improvement on what we have. I really hope we get this one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter H Posted August 15, 2016 Report Share Posted August 15, 2016 (edited) Depends on the money for me. Thought Stek did really well against Spurs  *edit - theres a lot you can do with 30-40 mil and I dont think that we should spend that much on a keeper. Edited August 15, 2016 by Peter H Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dlblue Posted August 15, 2016 Report Share Posted August 15, 2016 A great Keep makes all the difference. They can be the difference between a couple of places in the league. There is no doubt he is a great keeper he just need to improve in certain areas and improve on his concentration. I think we are the perfect fit for him right now i cant really see where else he would go? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lowensda Posted August 15, 2016 Report Share Posted August 15, 2016 (edited) A great Keep makes all the difference. They can be the difference between a couple of places in the league. There is no doubt he is a great keeper he just need to improve in certain areas and improve on his concentration. I think we are the perfect fit for him right now i cant really see where else he would go? Â Personally, I think it's pressure. Playing for City is high pressure. Playing for England is high pressure. Â I just don't think he'll get that at Everton, he might go back to enjoying his football and start showing the form of 3/4 years ago. Â All in. Edited August 15, 2016 by Lowensda Romey 1878, Sibdane and StevO 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aidan Posted August 15, 2016 Report Share Posted August 15, 2016 A great Keep makes all the difference. They can be the difference between a couple of places in the league. There is no doubt he is a great keeper he just need to improve in certain areas and improve on his concentration. I think we are the perfect fit for him right now i cant really see where else he would go? Spot on. Think about how much lower untied would have finished without de gea. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marcopaulo Posted August 15, 2016 Report Share Posted August 15, 2016 Personally, I think it's pressure. Playing for city is high pressure. Playing for England is high pressure. Â I just don't he'll get that at Everton, he might go back to enjoying his football and start showing the form of 3/4 years ago. Â All in. Â Could be something in this...keeper of the season at Birmingham..also pfa young player nomination Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markjazzbassist Posted August 15, 2016 Report Share Posted August 15, 2016 Claudio Bravo to City rumored for 17m, we would be idiots if we paid more than that for a guy they don't even want. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EFC-Paul Posted August 15, 2016 Report Share Posted August 15, 2016 Claudio Bravo to City rumored for 17m, we would be idiots if we paid more than that for a guy they don't even want.  City not wanting him has little relevance to what there paying for Bravo and what Hart is worth to other clubs.... There's been many a player not wanted by their clubs over the years who are still quality and wanted by others its that interest that will dictate their value  Bravo is 33 he's a stop gap until they land a bigger fish imo, Hart will go for more than £17m Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markjazzbassist Posted August 15, 2016 Report Share Posted August 15, 2016 City not wanting him has little relevance to what there paying for Bravo and what Hart is worth to other clubs.... There's been many a player not wanted by their clubs over the years who are still quality and wanted by others its that interest that will dictate their value  Bravo is 33 he's a stop gap until they land a bigger fish imo, Hart will go for more than £17m  he shouldn't, he's not as good as Bravo or Ter Stegen, he should be 15m max for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil Stewart Posted August 15, 2016 Report Share Posted August 15, 2016 Was that an intentional pun? no not at all. Wrote that without realizing what I'd put. Would have been proud of it though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevO Posted August 15, 2016 Report Share Posted August 15, 2016 I'd be happy to pay upto £30m if we get him on a good contract, anything less than £25m and I'd be made up. Lowensda 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sibdane Posted August 15, 2016 Report Share Posted August 15, 2016 I'd stop at 20 mil, but would love him here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smeghead1 Posted August 15, 2016 Report Share Posted August 15, 2016 Error prone unfortunately has fantastic games and then drops a bollock. Already said his position means it's highlighted more than any other on the pitch. Â There's better keepers than Hart if your chucking 30 million at it. markjazzbassist 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cornish Steve Posted August 15, 2016 Report Share Posted August 15, 2016 Â Personally, I think it's pressure. Playing for City is high pressure. Playing for England is high pressure. Â I just don't think he'll get that at Everton, he might go back to enjoying his football and start showing the form of 3/4 years ago. Â All in. Â So is playing in a cup final. Do we really want a player who chokes under pressure? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lowensda Posted August 15, 2016 Report Share Posted August 15, 2016 Â So is playing in a cup final. Do we really want a player who chokes under pressure? I suppose it's more of a confidencertain thing with Hart. If he feels he's unbeatable, then he plays like it. What I meant by pressure is the amount heaped on him so often, he's under the spotlight far more than any other keeper in th league because he's English. A move away from a club craving the media spot light might help him? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil Stewart Posted August 15, 2016 Report Share Posted August 15, 2016 I think if we got Hart he could be the best signing we've made in 20 years. I could really see pushing on with him as our no 1. He would earn us more points over a season than he would lose us by far. I know people are saying for the money we could get better, but who. Butland has had 1 season as a premier league no 1, and although impressive it's still 1season at a team with low to mid expectations. Forster is good, but is prone to errors (after his record shut out he made 3 or 4 errors in a short run of games which lead directly to goals) rui patricio isn't in the same league as Hart. I can't think of anyone available to us better than Hart Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete0 Posted August 15, 2016 Report Share Posted August 15, 2016 He's not even an upgrade from Tim Howard in his prime. We should be looking for a keeper at least as good as what Martyn was. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted August 15, 2016 Report Share Posted August 15, 2016 I think he'd be a very good signing but not for the initial feed touted. As has been said, anything under £30 and he'd be a steal, and I'd be confident he'd flourish with a solid defence in front of him - City's back 4 the last 2 seasons have been far from convincing and no doubt that has had a negative effect on the lad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil Stewart Posted August 15, 2016 Report Share Posted August 15, 2016 He's much better a commanding his area than Howard ever was and is a great shot stopper. Loved both Howard and martyn but think Hart would prove to be more important than both of them. Out of interest who would you go for. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete0 Posted August 15, 2016 Report Share Posted August 15, 2016 He's much better a commanding his area than Howard ever was and is a great shot stopper. Loved both Howard and martyn but think Hart would prove to be more important than both of them. Out of interest who would you go for.He's no where near Martyn's level for me. Â I'm unsure tbh, top class keepers win you titles, but we need to be challenging before we can attract one. De Gea, Lloris, Cech, and Courtois is the bar we should be setting. I doubt any of their clubs would swap them for Joe Hart. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil Stewart Posted August 16, 2016 Report Share Posted August 16, 2016 He's no where near Martyn's level for me. I'm unsure tbh, top class keepers win you titles, but we need to be challenging before we can attract one. De Gea, Lloris, Cech, and Courtois is the bar we should be setting. I doubt any of their clubs would swap them for Joe Hart. I agree that they're all better than Hart, but we haven't got a chance of any of them. I don't think city would swap Hart for stekelenburg or joel. Hart has more premier league medals than 3 of those keepers. Really think he'd be the best available option for us and definitely a huge improvement on what we have. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil Stewart Posted August 16, 2016 Report Share Posted August 16, 2016 Guillem Balague Guillem Balague @GuillemBalague 9m Busy last hours at FCB. Bravo pushed club to make a decision. He said he wants to leave. LE wanted both GK to stay but Bravo will go to City  Guess we'll find out soon enough Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete0 Posted August 16, 2016 Report Share Posted August 16, 2016 I agree that they're all better than Hart, but we haven't got a chance of any of them. I don't think city would swap Hart for stekelenburg or joel. Hart has more premier league medals than 3 of those keepers. Really think he'd be the best available option for us and definitely a huge improvement on what we have.Medals are inspire of him. Mancini wanted rid, Pellegrini dropped him, and now their new manager hasn't even bothered giving him a chance. His biggest attribute is his nationality. Not many times I've watched City and he's performed, I'd say he drops them more points than he gains. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lowensda Posted August 16, 2016 Report Share Posted August 16, 2016 I think he'd be a very good signing but not for the initial feed touted. As has been said, anything under £30 and he'd be a steal, and I'd be confident he'd flourish with a solid defence in front of him - City's back 4 the last 2 seasons have been far from convincing and no doubt that has had a negative effect on the lad  Yes, yes it would Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hkfans Posted August 16, 2016 Report Share Posted August 16, 2016 He's no where near Martyn's level for me. Â I'm unsure tbh, top class keepers win you titles, but we need to be challenging before we can attract one. De Gea, Lloris, Cech, and Courtois is the bar we should be setting. I doubt any of their clubs would swap them for Joe Hart. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted August 16, 2016 Report Share Posted August 16, 2016 He's travelled with their squad to Bucharest, so nothing will be happening today. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Tiger Posted August 16, 2016 Report Share Posted August 16, 2016 He's no where near Martyn's level for me. Â I'm unsure tbh, top class keepers win you titles, but we need to be challenging before we can attract one. De Gea, Lloris, Cech, and Courtois is the bar we should be setting. I doubt any of their clubs would swap them for Joe Hart. Â Can we challenge with the level keeper we have now though? Our current crop of Keepers may be able to maintain, but they won't cinsistently get us additional points like Hart would (Saturday's saves aside which were fantastic.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markjazzbassist Posted August 16, 2016 Report Share Posted August 16, 2016 Â Can we challenge with the level keeper we have now though? Our current crop of Keepers may be able to maintain, but they won't cinsistently get us additional points like Hart would (Saturday's saves aside which were fantastic.) Â good question. one thought i've had is this, Howard was a decent keeper for us. When we had the solid backline in the Moyes days and RM first season he was decent, above average clean sheets. But a lot can be attributed to that back 4 plus DCM helping defend. Once we went all out attack and RM didn't care about the defense, Howard was shown to be an average mistake prone keeper. Â So, if we use that logic with Stekelenberg, the thought is: we have an improved defense and coach that stresses good defending at all times, we have a better DCM in Gueye, maybe those reinforcements will do enough to limit the amount of points we lose with Stek to where it's acceptable. Sure we could use a better keeper, but the defense strengthening might save us more points than a GK. Â food for thought Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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