Neil Stewart Posted August 16, 2016 Report Share Posted August 16, 2016 Medals are inspire of him. Mancini wanted rid, Pellegrini dropped him, and now their new manager hasn't even bothered giving him a chance. His biggest attribute is his nationality. Not many times I've watched City and he's performed, I'd say he drops them more points than he gains. he had the 3rd highest clean wheat to games ratio in the league last year, begin only Czech and de gea, and city had a shot defence Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sibdane Posted August 16, 2016 Report Share Posted August 16, 2016 Sure we could use a better keeper, but the defense strengthening might save us more points than a GK. Â Â Well probably yes, but we should still try to save points wherever possible. Â I don't think we'll have to settle on having one or the other now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil Stewart Posted August 16, 2016 Report Share Posted August 16, 2016 good question. one thought i've had is this, Howard was a decent keeper for us. When we had the solid backline in the Moyes days and RM first season he was decent, above average clean sheets. But a lot can be attributed to that back 4 plus DCM helping defend. Once we went all out attack and RM didn't care about the defense, Howard was shown to be an average mistake prone keeper. Â So, if we use that logic with Stekelenberg, the thought is: we have an improved defense and coach that stresses good defending at all times, we have a better DCM in Gueye, maybe those reinforcements will do enough to limit the amount of points we lose with Stek to where it's acceptable. Sure we could use a better keeper, but the defense strengthening might save us more points than a GK. Â food for thought why does it have to be one or the other. Why try to limit they point stem would lose if we can replace him with better. Regardless of Hart, we need a quality no 1 and we haven't got that yet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete0 Posted August 16, 2016 Report Share Posted August 16, 2016 he had the 3rd highest clean wheat to games ratio in the league last year, begin only Czech and de gea, and city had a shot defenceRobles had the 10th best save percentage in the league past year. The list only has the top 10, so I can't tell you how far down Hart was. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jofanon Posted August 16, 2016 Report Share Posted August 16, 2016 Â So is playing in a cup final. Do we really want a player who chokes under pressure? Â Like Lukaku? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete0 Posted August 16, 2016 Report Share Posted August 16, 2016 Â Can we challenge with the level keeper we have now though? Our current crop of Keepers may be able to maintain, but they won't cinsistently get us additional points like Hart would (Saturday's saves aside which were fantastic.) I genuinely doubt Hart would get us more points. markjazzbassist 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sibdane Posted August 16, 2016 Report Share Posted August 16, 2016 Â Like Lukaku? :yellow CARD: markjazzbassist 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sibdane Posted August 16, 2016 Report Share Posted August 16, 2016 I genuinely doubt Hart would get us more points. Â I don't think so either really, but hopefully there's some other keeper in the pipeline. I've seen enough of Joel and Stek to know that they are just as likely to have their errors. pete0 and markjazzbassist 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MC11 Posted August 16, 2016 Author Report Share Posted August 16, 2016 This has "LIVERPOOL" all over it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markjazzbassist Posted August 16, 2016 Report Share Posted August 16, 2016 This has "LIVERPOOL" all over it. Â they signed that Kairus lad for keeper. you think they'll move mignolet on? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted August 16, 2016 Report Share Posted August 16, 2016 SSN are saying he will be leaving this window according to "sources". I hope we're in for him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barryj Posted August 16, 2016 Report Share Posted August 16, 2016 He's not even an upgrade from Tim Howard in his prime. We should be looking for a keeper at least as good as what Martyn was. Disagree with this. He's got experience and is a top keeper. A couple of errors recently in high profile games. Had he been playing for a mid table team last year everyone would be raving about him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted August 16, 2016 Report Share Posted August 16, 2016 Just as anbaside. It'd be funny if he signed got us after persuading Stones to join City. Â For that reason, I'm in. efc1111 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MC11 Posted August 16, 2016 Author Report Share Posted August 16, 2016 Â they signed that Kairus lad for keeper. you think they'll move mignolet on? He'll go to Liverpool. They'll be all over it now he's available. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paddock Posted August 16, 2016 Report Share Posted August 16, 2016 He'll go to Liverpool. They'll be all over it now he's available. They don't need a keeper they just bought one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
c1982 Posted August 16, 2016 Report Share Posted August 16, 2016 A season long loan to us with the option to buy next summer would be a great deal and I think that's what will happen. Bailey 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MC11 Posted August 16, 2016 Author Report Share Posted August 16, 2016 They don't need a keeper they just bought one. Yeh Harts better than both. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markjazzbassist Posted August 16, 2016 Report Share Posted August 16, 2016 on the bench again, this time for CL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smeghead1 Posted August 16, 2016 Report Share Posted August 16, 2016 Can see this happening as soon as the keeper from Barca is allowed to leave. It would have to be for considerably less than the 30 million quoted tho. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nyblue23 Posted August 16, 2016 Report Share Posted August 16, 2016 Â good question. one thought i've had is this, Howard was a decent keeper for us. When we had the solid backline in the Moyes days and RM first season he was decent, above average clean sheets. But a lot can be attributed to that back 4 plus DCM helping defend. Once we went all out attack and RM didn't care about the defense, Howard was shown to be an average mistake prone keeper. Â So, if we use that logic with Stekelenberg, the thought is: we have an improved defense and coach that stresses good defending at all times, we have a better DCM in Gueye, maybe those reinforcements will do enough to limit the amount of points we lose with Stek to where it's acceptable. Sure we could use a better keeper, but the defense strengthening might save us more points than a GK. Â food for thought To be fair, I'm convinced Howard's decline was down much more to age than to RM. It's not like Klinnsman organized the best defense in the World Cup in 2014. Howard was just otherworldly. His decline happened nearly immediately after, and that after one season playing very well under RM. Â For a couple years, Howard was top three to five in the league. If Hart is even an equal to Howard in his prime, I'll be alright with it. Sibdane 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markjazzbassist Posted August 16, 2016 Report Share Posted August 16, 2016 (edited) They don't need a keeper they just bought one. Â just looked this up, the new boy Kairus is injured and out for 10 weeks. MC is right, they could be in for him as well. Edited August 16, 2016 by markjazzbassist Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sibdane Posted August 16, 2016 Report Share Posted August 16, 2016 http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2657936-manchester-city-transfer-news-claudio-bravo-agreement-reached-joe-hart-rumours  "Only Simon Mignolet (10) has made more errors that have led directly to a goal in the last 3 PL seasons than Hart (8)" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted August 16, 2016 Report Share Posted August 16, 2016 just looked this up, the new boy Kairus is injured and out for 10 weeks. MC is right, they could be in for him as well. No team is going to spend the money necessary to buy Hart just to replace someone for 10 weeks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markjazzbassist Posted August 16, 2016 Report Share Posted August 16, 2016 (edited) No team is going to spend the money necessary to buy Hart just to replace someone for 10 weeks. Â reports i have read said that he's not even rated high enough to knock mignolet off the 1 spot, he was brought in for competition, he might be a backup and hart the 1 and mignolet sold. i'm not ruling out the red shite on this one. Edited August 16, 2016 by markjazzbassist Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeQuince Posted August 16, 2016 Report Share Posted August 16, 2016  http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2657936-manchester-city-transfer-news-claudio-bravo-agreement-reached-joe-hart-rumours   "Only Simon Mignolet (10) has made more errors that have led directly to a goal in the last 3 PL seasons than Hart (8)"  Yup. He's athletically gifted, and he knows how to play the position. I'll admit that. But, he doesn't have it upstairs, and that's the difference.  You can tell when a keeper has the mental side down, and he has never looked stable to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newty82 Posted August 16, 2016 Report Share Posted August 16, 2016 He's stalled for the last couple of seasons for me. Made some right boo-boo's. Possibly has become complacent, too comfortable. Â I still rate him as a keeper though and would take him here in a Hart beat. Great personality, vocal, and rate him or not, he's a 'name'. Â The hope for me would be that a new challenge gets him going again. efc1111 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailey Posted August 16, 2016 Report Share Posted August 16, 2016 I would love to know how those errors are calculated. Â For example, if you look at Lallana's goal at the weekend, it goes right down the middle of the goal. Cech comes out rashly and dives out when he should have stayed on his feet. Massive error and no-one has even mentioned it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted August 17, 2016 Report Share Posted August 17, 2016 http://www.bbc.com/sport/football/37106090 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markjazzbassist Posted August 17, 2016 Report Share Posted August 17, 2016 (edited) http://www.bbc.com/sport/football/37106090 Â us and sevilla. the difference between staying in england (and not far from manchester at that) or going to a club in Champions League. furthermore within liverpool it's the red shite and his buds milner, henderson, sturridge, and manager klopp. or us with jags, barkley, lennon, barry, and koeman. not sure which of the england lads he gets along with. Edited August 17, 2016 by markjazzbassist Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finn balor Posted August 17, 2016 Report Share Posted August 17, 2016 He will go the shite. They'll bin mignolet off Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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