Matt Posted August 23, 2016 Report Share Posted August 23, 2016 (edited) Witsel is a merc but schweini isn't? I'm sorry Matt but that doesn't compute. Especially since he's staying at his club while schweini tries to find another suitor (what mercs do). I need to concede you are either a complicated man with some self system of rules on whether you like something or not, or you're bi polar One chose to go to the Russian league to earn a fortune, the other was at Bayern for 17 years before moving to one of the most successful teams in England as his career in Germany was stalling and then unceremoniously dropped by their new manager (Uniteds I mean, but wouldn't be surprised if Pep had too). Witzel couldn't get the deal he wanted (so it seems at least) so he'll see out the rest of his contract so he can leave for free to his 4th club in 10 years and get a bumper signing on fee, the other, who had only played for 1 other team before signing for United, is looking to move so he can play more. Not even close to being a mercenary, I don't even get how you could compare or confuse the 2. Edited August 23, 2016 by Matt Lowensda and nyblue23 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted August 23, 2016 Report Share Posted August 23, 2016 Don't really see the problem with the £7m we'd pay to loan Hart. We paid that for Rom without blinking and we had less money then. I'd be surprised if that was a reason we cooled our interest. If we have at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted August 23, 2016 Report Share Posted August 23, 2016 My whole issue with this is that we would be doing Man City a favour - nursing a battered player back to happiness and confidence and we have to pay mega money? If they want him to not stagnate then loan him for the wages - nothing more. Otherwise they run the risk of him devaluing over the next season. He will just become the English Cudicini. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted August 23, 2016 Report Share Posted August 23, 2016 Don't really see the problem with the £7m we'd pay to loan Hart. We paid that for Rom without blinking and we had less money then. I'd be surprised if that was a reason we cooled our interest. If we have at all. Think it was a bit less and went towards the end transfer fee, but regardless I agree. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted August 23, 2016 Report Share Posted August 23, 2016 Think it was a bit less and went towards the end transfer fee, but regardless I agree. For all we know it could come off Hart's fee as well. Guardiola isn't going to change his mind about him, he's finished at City even if he only goes out on loan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marcopaulo Posted August 23, 2016 Report Share Posted August 23, 2016 Don't really see the problem with the £7m we'd pay to loan Hart. We paid that for Rom without blinking and we had less money then. I'd be surprised if that was a reason we cooled our interest. If we have at all. Agreed...a good keeper is worth a lot of points to a team..and the guy is good I think...power of being English working in reverse for me Lowensda and Matt 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted August 23, 2016 Report Share Posted August 23, 2016 For all we know it could come off Hart's fee as well. Guardiola isn't going to change his mind about him, he's finished at City even if he only goes out on loan. Ideally yeah, but I maintain £30m is too much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted August 23, 2016 Report Share Posted August 23, 2016 Ideally yeah, but I maintain £30m is too much. That's the fee the papers have quoted. We have no idea what it'd be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevO Posted August 23, 2016 Report Share Posted August 23, 2016 I think City would take much less than that. It's not like Everton trying to keep a player or make as much money as they can from the transfer. It's a player they don't want and money they don't need. They aren't exactly know for strong arming clubs into paying a lot for their players. If they spent £20m on Bravo I think they would just be happy to get £20m back in and nothing is lost. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markjazzbassist Posted August 23, 2016 Report Share Posted August 23, 2016 That's the fee the papers have quoted. We have no idea what it'd be. Bravo is 17m and the starter, anything more than 15m is robbery. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted August 23, 2016 Report Share Posted August 23, 2016 That's the fee the papers have quoted. We have no idea what it'd be. True, but since that's the figure being bandied about then it's all I've got to go off. If its £30m it better be with stupid stuff like £5m if we win the league / £3m for qualifiying to CL in 2/3 years, similar shit to the Lukaku deal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markjazzbassist Posted August 23, 2016 Report Share Posted August 23, 2016 Cillisseen the Dutch lad was 12m to barca. Not sure why second rate joe hart is worth more than both of them combined. He's shit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted August 23, 2016 Report Share Posted August 23, 2016 Guardiola has said he has a chance of playing against Bucharest tomorrow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted August 23, 2016 Report Share Posted August 23, 2016 Cillisseen the Dutch lad was 12m to barca. Not sure why second rate joe hart is worth more than both of them combined. He's shit. He's really not though. He's had poor performances for sure, but he's also a title winner, cup winner etc. who has played behind some truly shocking CBs in his time. Is he world class? No. Is he Average/shit? No. He's a damn good 'keeper with 7 years, arguably the best for a GK, or so ahead of him who has captained his club and country (I think) and needs a new lease of life. Romey 1878 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted August 23, 2016 Report Share Posted August 23, 2016 Guardiola has said he has a chance of playing against Bucharest tomorrow. Knowing the defence I'm giving him, he'll start and concede 6 now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mogsy Posted August 23, 2016 Report Share Posted August 23, 2016 My whole issue with this is that we would be doing Man City a favour - nursing a battered player back to happiness and confidence and we have to pay mega money? This, I'd have him but not on loan, don't see the point in pissing £7m up the wall only for him to fuck off somewhere else after the loan period! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lowensda Posted August 23, 2016 Report Share Posted August 23, 2016 I think the £7m actually comes from the Scrabble theory. Take the name of the player as they are known to you and I, work out the calculated score based on the individual tile scores in Scrabble. Suprisingly accurate to. Proposed players: HART = 7 (£7m) LAMINE KONE = 16 (£16m) Current players: OUMAR NIASSE = 13 (£13m) MCCARTHY = 20 (£20) YANNICK BOLASIE = 25 (£25m) WILLIAMS = 13 (£13) IDRISSA = 8 (£8m) That's how the media guess the valuations of players. FACT. nyblue23 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newty82 Posted August 23, 2016 Report Share Posted August 23, 2016 Did you know Harts real name is actually Charles Joseph John Hart? Using the scrabble theory...That's were the inflated fee comes from. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newty82 Posted August 23, 2016 Report Share Posted August 23, 2016 Erm, FACT Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted August 23, 2016 Report Share Posted August 23, 2016 Did you know Harts real name is actually Charles Joseph John Hart? Using the scrabble theory...That's were the inflated fee comes from. Please tell me you didn't work out what names would be needed to get to £30m? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lowensda Posted August 23, 2016 Report Share Posted August 23, 2016 Please tell me you didn't work out what names would be needed to get to £30m? I used a scrabble calculator Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lowensda Posted August 23, 2016 Report Share Posted August 23, 2016 Erm, FACT Then how can I dispute. Hold on a minute...I used bold and caps before you, how can you dispute? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finn balor Posted August 23, 2016 Report Share Posted August 23, 2016 I think it'll be nearer £20 mill I'd it happens Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted August 23, 2016 Report Share Posted August 23, 2016 I think it'll be nearer £20 mill I'd it happens If that includes the loan fee, I'd be happy with that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Paddock Posted August 23, 2016 Popular Post Report Share Posted August 23, 2016 If we want high profile big name players we'll have to pay the pennies to get them it's that simple. People can't moan they want some quality players or big names then expect them to let us pay them 80k a week. Lowensda, nyblue23, Steve_E and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lowensda Posted August 23, 2016 Report Share Posted August 23, 2016 If we want high profile big name players we'll have to pay the pennies to get them it's that simple. People can't moan they want some quality players or big names then expect them to let us pay them 80k a week. Thank you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markjazzbassist Posted August 23, 2016 Report Share Posted August 23, 2016 (edited) If we want high profile big name players we'll have to pay the pennies to get them it's that simple. People can't moan they want some quality players or big names then expect them to let us pay them 80k a week. he is not a high profile big name player. he is average. if he were high profile big name he would start at man city. pep has seen through the english smokescreen and realized the man is bang on average. Edited August 23, 2016 by markjazzbassist Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted August 23, 2016 Report Share Posted August 23, 2016 he is not a high profile big name player. he is average. if he were high profile big name he would start at man city. pep has seen through the english smokescreen and realized the man is bang on average. He is way better than average, you're doing him a disservice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markjazzbassist Posted August 23, 2016 Report Share Posted August 23, 2016 He is way better than average, you're doing him a disservice. willy caballero is starting over him matt, come on Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted August 23, 2016 Report Share Posted August 23, 2016 willy caballero is starting over him matt, come on Because Pep is an ego-maniac and want's to make a very clear message. It's no reflection on his ability. Lowensda 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Join the conversation
You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.