dunlopp9987 Posted November 28, 2021 Report Share Posted November 28, 2021 Well the less said about this the better. Only silver lining is it's back to back 10 pointers for me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shukes Posted November 28, 2021 Report Share Posted November 28, 2021 Scariest thing is…. We cant say we didn’t try. We certainly tried, we’re just not good enough. Our best players were level with them. badaids 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plaidharper Posted November 28, 2021 Report Share Posted November 28, 2021 Down about the result but more down about the fact I do not know when, where, or how or next goal will come from from this side and setup. Bleak holidays ahead. Bailey 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailey Posted November 28, 2021 Report Share Posted November 28, 2021 I feel sorry for Rondon today. The quality of ball into him has been terrible. Like it was for Richarlison the weeks before. Unless that improves, Dom coming back wont make much difference. You look at the time and space Toney had today and compare that to our forwards and it is chalk and cheese. Unfortunately we are a weak, boring football team low on confidence. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badaids Posted November 28, 2021 Report Share Posted November 28, 2021 Never easy to lose, and it was a dour performance, but there were some positives. Firstly we didn't cave in after the pen, and showed a bit of passion and fight - Brentford look like an organised team. Doucs played the whole match, and Gray came on and showed he still is in a pocket of form. Rondon wasn't terrible -for the first time. I have faith with our first choice team we are going to start getting results. However, we are probably going to get beat badly on Wednesday, but I don't feel really despondent going into that. dunlopp9987 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailey Posted November 28, 2021 Report Share Posted November 28, 2021 9 minutes ago, badaids said: If we can get DCL back soon (and the others of course), we'll be okay. Rondon has been given half a dozen chances today. DCL would have got at least 1 of them. I think he had one good chance and that was after the scored. It was certainly no gimme either. The rest of his "chances" he had a very low probability of scoring IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duncanmckenzieismagic Posted November 28, 2021 Report Share Posted November 28, 2021 2 minutes ago, Bailey said: I feel sorry for Rondon today. The quality of ball into him has been terrible. Like it was for Richarlison the weeks before. Unless that improves, Dom coming back wont make much difference. You look at the time and space Toney had today and compare that to our forwards and it is chalk and cheese. Unfortunately we are a weak, boring football team low on confidence. Totally disagree , Demaria Gray put in some superb crosses that should have been food and drink for a half decent striker but he was nowhere to be seen Toney only touched the ball once in our area and that was the penalty Shukes and Romey 1878 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
memmaclub2 Posted November 28, 2021 Report Share Posted November 28, 2021 I don’t think it’s goals I can’t see it’s a win. For me the manager doesn’t really matter as the squad is so poor outside the first 11. That means no competition for places massive impacted by key injuries and suspensions. If the Xmas games go with form we will be looking at a sacked manager by Jan and a squad with no confidence. Does relegations become a real risk? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shukes Posted November 28, 2021 Report Share Posted November 28, 2021 Just a few things I don’t get. Gordon. Didn’t give the ball away much, made his passes and managed to beat a man…. Always on the wrong side cutting in. But we keep him there. Iwobi. I don’t care what anyone says, being the best at kick ups on the team means fuck all. He is literally the weakest part layer in the team. The ball goes to him… then goes to them it’s that simple. But we’ll keep him on. Then Gray comes on and we keep the same shape? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duncanmckenzieismagic Posted November 28, 2021 Report Share Posted November 28, 2021 6 minutes ago, badaids said: Never easy to lose, and it was a dour performance, but there were some positives. Firstly we didn't cave in after the pen, and showed a bit of passion and fight - Brentford look like an organised team. Doucs played the whole match, and Gray came on and showed he still is in a pocket of form. Rondon wasn't terrible -for the first time. I have faith with our first choice team we are going to start getting results. However, we are probably going to get beat badly on Wednesday, but I don't feel really despondent going into that. I thought we deserved something out of that, in all honesty it was a dour match between to poor teams that was ultimately decided by the Ref MikeO and Sibdane 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shukes Posted November 28, 2021 Report Share Posted November 28, 2021 2 minutes ago, duncanmckenzieismagic said: Totally disagree , Demaria Gray put in some superb crosses that should have been food and drink for a half decent striker but he was nowhere to be seen Toney only touched the ball once in our area and that was the penalty Criminal that no one got close to those balls. badaids 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harv Posted November 28, 2021 Report Share Posted November 28, 2021 We never looked like scoring and I can't see that changing, until D. C-L starts. No pressure Dom. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted November 28, 2021 Report Share Posted November 28, 2021 48 minutes ago, Bailey said: I feel sorry for Rondon today. The quality of ball into him has been terrible. Like it was for Richarlison the weeks before. Unless that improves, Dom coming back wont make much difference. You look at the time and space Toney had today and compare that to our forwards and it is chalk and cheese. Unfortunately we are a weak, boring football team low on confidence. 42 minutes ago, duncanmckenzieismagic said: Totally disagree , Demaria Gray put in some superb crosses that should have been food and drink for a half decent striker but he was nowhere to be seen Toney only touched the ball once in our area and that was the penalty Thanks, Dunc, you saved me the bother. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnh Posted November 28, 2021 Report Share Posted November 28, 2021 We had 14 attempts on goal to Brentford's 5. In DCL's absence we don't have anyone who can put the ball in the net. I think there is only Norwich who have scored less goals than us so far this season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aidan Posted November 28, 2021 Report Share Posted November 28, 2021 Disgraceful Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palfy Posted November 28, 2021 Report Share Posted November 28, 2021 1 hour ago, Shukes said: Gordon. Didn’t give the ball away much, made his passes and managed to beat a man…. Always on the wrong side cutting in. You saw a different game to the one I watched he got caught in possession so many times because he doesn’t no when to release it, and he gave the ball away more in the first half than the second granted with sloppy passing, in all honesty Brentford are very good championship team who look destined to go back there, for me Gordon didn’t shine out to be better than any player they had on the pitch, then neither did a few in our team. We need 4 or 5 players in our team so the like’s of Gordon Iwobi Coleman Digne and Rondon struggle to make the bench. badaids 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailey Posted November 28, 2021 Report Share Posted November 28, 2021 1 hour ago, duncanmckenzieismagic said: Totally disagree , Demaria Gray put in some superb crosses that should have been food and drink for a half decent striker but he was nowhere to be seen Toney only touched the ball once in our area and that was the penalty 1 hour ago, Shukes said: Criminal that no one got close to those balls. I disagree. They werent superb balls at all, they were nowhere near anyone. There is always the argument that people make that xyz would have got on the end of that but I think its a false argument. If the player makes a near post run, he cant get on the end of a ball to the back post and thats what happened today. Today Gordon was probably the one you would look at and think, maybe he should have gambled on a couple of occasions but Dom can't be in two places at once. Whenever Rondon got the ball in the box, something generally happened. It just didnt happen enough because we are absolutely terrible with the ball. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duncanmckenzieismagic Posted November 28, 2021 Report Share Posted November 28, 2021 2 minutes ago, Bailey said: I disagree. They werent superb balls at all, they were nowhere near anyone. There is always the argument that people make that xyz would have got on the end of that but I think its a false argument. If the player makes a near post run, he cant get on the end of a ball to the back post and thats what happened today. Today Gordon was probably the one you would look at and think, maybe he should have gambled on a couple of occasions but Dom can't be in two places at once. Whenever Rondon got the ball in the box, something generally happened. It just didnt happen enough because we are absolutely terrible with the ball. That’s kind of the point though, they were excellent crosses into dangerous areas that are very difficult to defend but they were nowhere near any Everton players because no Everton player was alert enough to get into those areas, which they should have been DCL would have thrived on that kind of service MikeO, Romey 1878 and badaids 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milesey05 Posted November 28, 2021 Report Share Posted November 28, 2021 Recorded game and just skipped through it on x6 speed. Still didn’t make Rondon look any faster. MikeO, Romey 1878, plaidharper and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gwlad Posted November 28, 2021 Report Share Posted November 28, 2021 Gordon was lively for the first 10 minutes, I was cautiously optimistic he might score. Digne's crosses were poor hence Rondon not being able to find the net but he looked to be trying. Godfrey looked more like his old self. Not much action in front of where I was sat, except our subs running to keep warm and Brentford on the attack at the other end. Second we were all over their goal just didn't have a finisher. Townsend looked a bit edgy at times and was on a yellow so maybe that's why he was subbed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harv Posted November 28, 2021 Report Share Posted November 28, 2021 Digne, isn't the player he was, not sure what's happened there. I used to think we would struggle to keep him, not now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dunlopp9987 Posted November 28, 2021 Report Share Posted November 28, 2021 1 hour ago, Harv said: Digne, isn't the player he was, not sure what's happened there. I used to think we would struggle to keep him, not now. He hasn't had proper competition for his spot in years, that's what's happened Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cornish Steve Posted November 29, 2021 Author Report Share Posted November 29, 2021 12 hours ago, memmaclub2 said: Looking like a great Xmas We need to grab 5 points from these fixtures to be on target to make the safe 40 points for the season. I don't see it, which means we could soon be in big trouble. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cornish Steve Posted November 29, 2021 Author Report Share Posted November 29, 2021 10 hours ago, Palfy said: You saw a different game to the one I watched he got caught in possession so many times because he doesn’t no when to release it, and he gave the ball away more in the first half than the second granted with sloppy passing, in all honesty Brentford are very good championship team who look destined to go back there, for me Gordon didn’t shine out to be better than any player they had on the pitch, then neither did a few in our team. We need 4 or 5 players in our team so the like’s of Gordon Iwobi Coleman Digne and Rondon struggle to make the bench. Well, they're ahead of us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cornish Steve Posted November 29, 2021 Author Report Share Posted November 29, 2021 It's the same old same old: inept tactics, strange substitutions (or lack of them), and continuing to play favorites (Rondon again). These questions beg answers from the manager: 1) Why play Doucoure for a full 90 minutes right after a serious injury when he's essential for the midweek derby? 2) Why play Rondon when he's proved to be past it and way out of his depth? 3) Why not give youngsters a chance? By not playing them in games like this, they're simply going to leave the club. 4) Why keep playing Iwobi for 90 minutes? 5) What exactly is your plan for scoring goals, because without them we can't win games? 6) How can you, in your interview, suggest - again - that we were unlucky and that playing a team "like this" is difficult? Do you realize they're in poor form and were below us in the table? 7) Will you be making the same excuses if we lose every game before the new year? When will you accept responsibility and shake things up? Wiggytop and plaidharper 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cornish Steve Posted November 29, 2021 Author Report Share Posted November 29, 2021 5 hours ago, RPG said: I think you are correct, Best I can offer is 3 points from 3 draws with Arsenal, Palace and Leicester. Chelsea and the other lot should give us a sound thrashing. Half way in the season is 19 games so we can include the next game too, v Burnley to get to 20 points. That makes the Burnley match particularly important: a six-pointer, as they say. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
memmaclub2 Posted November 29, 2021 Report Share Posted November 29, 2021 Rafa has the worst win ratio of any perm manager since Walter smith Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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